kylef
Gone
+1,352|6941|N. Ireland
I searched and searched, but no relevant threads came up and non-debate section versions where either very old or extremely derailed, hence my creating this thread.

I would say Intel currently dominate the market. The Core 2 Duos have excellent architecture and they have the ability to overclock like anything! Current benchmarks do show that even low end Core 2 Duos can stand on top of any AMD system. I know that AMD have lost several hundred million from the C2D (Core 2 Duo) release, and I suspect they will pull back with their 65nm chips, but by then, Intel could have released their 40nm chips!

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/call_of_duty_2_1024.png

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/f.e.a.r_-_min.png

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/ut_2004_avg_perf__.png

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/quake_4_dual_1024.png

Not just in the gaming area but also in general applications, the Core 2 Duo seems to stay up on top! I was actually surprised by some of these results myself because it is uncommon to see Intel dominate most applications! Certainly, this put confidence in me when I purchased my E6400!

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/winrar.png

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/photoshop_-_image.png

Even during encoding, compressing and de-compressing, the C2D stays on top consistantly, even with the E6600, now costing a mere £150, is running over even the FX-60, AMDs flagship market processor.

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/wma.png

https://images.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/game_over_core_2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/divx.png

The list goes on but I don't want to add any more images in fear of 56k users, heh.

So, in my opinion, Intel currently dominates the CPU market with their flagship processor, Core 2 Duo. I have no doubt in my mind that AMD will push back and release a fantastic new processor, probably beating the C2D. It is an absolutely fantastic time for buyers. AMD and Intel will soon be battling the entire market again, which means incredibly low prices for the consumers, ourselves.

What is your view?

- Kyle.

> With thanks to TzH for the benchmarks.

Last edited by leetkyle (2007-05-04 06:00:29)

stef10
Member
+173|6930|Denmark
Well, I really do not care! I have my P4 3.0 ghz and it works good.
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
+219|6979|Golf 1.8 GTI Wolfsburg Edition
No problems yet with my Athlon 3800
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6893|The Land of Scott Walker

_NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:

No problems yet with my Athlon 3800
Ditto.  64x2 for me.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-05-04 06:06:15)

Warlord
Divine Ruler
+37|6830|Afghanistan
It sure doesn't beat this:

https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/476/amdquadvb1.jpg

...

https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9359/amdquadbooths4.jpg

~ W
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7292|Waikato, Aotearoa
Only in benchmarks and the diff is a whole 3:100 of a sec ooooooooo that makes a WHOLE shit tonne of
difference...

I think ill stick with AMD
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6998|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
In short AMD used to be the best and now Intel are.  The same with grpahics cards, ATI were the best now NVidia are.

Intel's quad core has been what's done it for them, the current AMD equivelent requires a special motherboard with two processor modules on it so you can put 2 dual AMDs on it but that is cowboy computering f you ask me.

Basically, AMD/ATi (same company now) seem to be playing catch up.
CruZ4dR
Cereal Killer
+145|7104|The View From The Afternoon

stef10 wrote:

Well, I really do not care! I have my P4 3.0 ghz and it works good.
Toxicseagull
Member
+10|6694|York
im happy with my X2 4600 at 2.7. however yes Intel are on top. penryn will increase the gap even more so barcelona better have some Aces up its sleeve and at a decent price.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6998|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
Isn't that just the poor man's Intel V8?
Warlord
Divine Ruler
+37|6830|Afghanistan

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Isn't that just the poor man's Intel V8?
It was cool back in the day, or last month ... very obsolete this week I'm sure.

~ w
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7184|Salt Lake City

Damn, for a minute I thought you had pictures of my computer.  I have that very same Stacker 830 case, and all 4 x 12cm fans in the door are also the blue LED.

However, my case currently houses a Q6600 @ 2.8GHz.
davidonbf2
Banned
+19|6671
I like the AMD dual core 5600, higher speed then Intel
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7097

Warlord wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Isn't that just the poor man's Intel V8?
It was cool back in the day, or last month ... very obsolete this week I'm sure.

~ w
Ain't progress a bitch?
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6970|...

I have no loyalty, give me what is fastest and is reasonably priced.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-05-04 07:37:55)

BVC
Member
+325|7143
AMD, Intel!!!

*FAP FAP FAP*

V8s, Rotors!!!!

*FAP FAP FAP*

Holdens, Fords!!!!

*FAP FAP FAP*

Fuck me, I need a load rag!
...

Arguing about which CPU/engine/car/anal dildo is pointless, because the competitor will leapfrog it ithin a year anyway!

Last edited by Pubic (2007-05-04 07:59:39)

B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7289|Cologne, Germany

Up to now, I have always built systems with AMD processors. But if I had to build a system today, I'd probably switch to Intel.

With that said, since I won't be building a new system any time soon, there is no need to lose sweat over that decision. As pubic has said, it is only a matter of time until AMD comes up with something better. Then Intel counters, and so on and so forth.

I'll pick whatever processor fits my computing needs best at that particular time, given reasonable pricing.
stef10
Member
+173|6930|Denmark

B.Schuss wrote:

Up to now, I have always built systems with AMD processors. But if I had to build a system today, I'd probably switch to Intel.

With that said, since I won't be building a new system any time soon, there is no need to lose sweat over that decision. As pubic has said, it is only a matter of time until AMD comes up with something better. Then Intel counters, and so on and so forth.

I'll pick whatever processor fits my computing needs best at that particular time, given reasonable pricing.
I agree!

It is always an eternal struggle to be the leading manufacture.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-04 09:05:29)

Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7103|United States of America
AMD is falling behind and Agena/Kuma are not going to catch AMD up to Intel.  Conroe Quad Cores will be most likely be within + or - 5% of Agena and Penryn will beat out Agena and Nehalem will be so far ahead of Agena that it will be putting AMD out of bussiness unless AMD can get 45nm out within 6 months of its release and AMD's 45nm process would need to actually work and scale, unlike 65nm has for AMD.

AMD is in bad shape now and is starting to get itself in the position that Cyrix was in before it was bought out, split up, and digested by VIA.  Graphics and Processors aren't looking to promising for AMD and they are bleeding out money so fast they need the K10 Uarch to be a success that it looks like it won't be.  AMD needs to hope that IBM can create a 45nm HKMG process for them that actually works, because 65nm has been a flop so far.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|7150|Little Rock, Arkansas

B.Schuss wrote:

Up to now, I have always built systems with AMD processors. But if I had to build a system today, I'd probably switch to Intel.

With that said, since I won't be building a new system any time soon, there is no need to lose sweat over that decision. As pubic has said, it is only a matter of time until AMD comes up with something better. Then Intel counters, and so on and so forth.

I'll pick whatever processor fits my computing needs best at that particular time, given reasonable pricing.
The only comment I have is that the costs of motherboards for intel systems are skyrocketing. I've rarely seen an enthusiast mobo that cost more than $175, and now a top of the line Asus is $340.

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