ATG
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https://a.abcnews.com/images/International/abc_zawahahri_video_070505_ms.jpg
Of the war funding bill sent to be vetoed by George Bush:

Ayman al-Zawahiri wrote:

"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3143623

Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, "We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson."
You just can't make those guys happy.

Last edited by ATG (2007-05-05 22:29:45)

usmarine
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I can make them happy.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6853|North Carolina
I think it would be a lot more entertaining for the media to engage in mock interviews.  If they can get the chance to meet with these people, they should hook up with a group of military operatives, so that they can film what starts out as an interview and then catch the look of surprise on their faces as they get killed by the operatives on camera.

It would make one hell of a video, wouldn't it?...
-101-InvaderZim
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ATG wrote:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Internation … 505_ms.jpg
Of the war funding bill sent to be vetoed by George Bush:

Ayman al-Zawahiri wrote:

"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3143623
Well duh thats the whole idea numbnuts
Harmor
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I think the most important thing we learned about Al-Quada is that they have a library with books.
ghettoperson
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So if the Democrats are making them sad by wanting to reduce funding and pull the troops out, surely that means that the Republicans are in fact making terrorists happy? *insert a few comments about traitors etc*
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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ghettoperson wrote:

So if the Democrats are making them sad by wanting to reduce funding and pull the troops out, surely that means that the Republicans are in fact making terrorists happy? *insert a few comments about traitors etc*
Too simplistic, shall I point to the obvious>(none of it involves the word traitor)?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ghettoperson
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Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

So if the Democrats are making them sad by wanting to reduce funding and pull the troops out, surely that means that the Republicans are in fact making terrorists happy? *insert a few comments about traitors etc*
Too simplistic, shall I point to the obvious>(none of it involves the word traitor)?
I wasn't being serious, but that's just what people tend to say when it's the other way around.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7013|England

Seriously, these Al Queda fuckers need to learn what a shaver is for.

"We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed" - yes, Im sure their god can really justify the killing of 200000 people - in expense for how many of theirs?

Any religious follower that thinks their god can justify that truely needs a bullet to the head.
DooM
Member
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Hahah, what a tool. Their all needing a shave bunch of sand turds.
CameronPoe
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Let's face it - if the US do pull out of Iraq it'll be a darn sight tougher for them to get at Americans.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6670|Escea

Turquoise wrote:

I think it would be a lot more entertaining for the media to engage in mock interviews.  If they can get the chance to meet with these people, they should hook up with a group of military operatives, so that they can film what starts out as an interview and then catch the look of surprise on their faces as they get killed by the operatives on camera.

It would make one hell of a video, wouldn't it?...
Exactly, we'll get some SEALs, Delta Force, SAS etc and disguise them as cameramen, half way through the interview, bang bang, double taps for every terrorist in the room.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
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I guess more Al-Quada should vote Democrat the next election.
TheOneAndOnlyX
Banned
+36|6822|Florida, USA
ALLAH IS A FUCKING LIE! God damn. The world is so fucking glued to religion. You can be a peaceful and caring and helpful person without being Chrisitian. I do nice things because I feel it's right not because I'll go to hell if I don't!
theelviscerator
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Harmor wrote:

I think the most important thing we learned about Al-Quada is that they have a library with books.
I mean how many copies of the koran do you need anyway?
Sanjaya
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So this now makes the REPUBLICANS the party of Al-Qaeda. GG guys.
Harmor
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CameronPoe wrote:

Let's face it - if the US do pull out of Iraq it'll be a darn sight tougher for them to get at Americans.
I don't think so.  Looks what they almost pulled last year when they wanted to down 10 airlines destended for the United States - killing upwards of 4,000 people.

Assuming that we pull out will Al Quada get a foothold on the country?  Will they fester and use the money from oil revenues to fund new attacks against us and our allies?

Will Iran annex 1/3rd of Iraq?  Will the price of oil goto $120/barrel and cause a world-wide recession?

Will Iran get the nuke and kill 90,000 Israelies before the world 'acts'?

Will Iran give nuclear technology to Al-Quada to attack U.S. interests?

Will the 30,000 Hesbolla troops inside the United States attack our malls and schools en masse killing 100,000 Americans?


Just some of the questions that still need to be answered.
CameronPoe
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Harmor wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Let's face it - if the US do pull out of Iraq it'll be a darn sight tougher for them to get at Americans.
I don't think so.  Looks what they almost pulled last year when they wanted to down 10 airlines destended for the United States - killing upwards of 4,000 people.
Erm. What did that have to do with Iraq....?

Harmor wrote:

Assuming that we pull out will Al Quada get a foothold on the country?  Will they fester and use the money from oil revenues to fund new attacks against us and our allies?
Al Qaeda isn't native to Iraq. Iraqis will not have an Al Qaeda government. It'll more than likely be three countries with the Shi'a one led by Moqtada Al Sadr and the Sunni one led by a former Ba'athist.

Harmor wrote:

Will Iran annex 1/3rd of Iraq?  Will the price of oil goto $120/barrel and cause a world-wide recession?
The price of oil would actually decrease if Iran annexed 1/3 of Iraq (not that I think they have a right to do such a thing). They would stabilise output given that the Shi'a nature of the majority of both peoples would make them happy bedfellows. Iran means business when it stamps its authority too - there wouldn't be any namby-pamby 'hearts & minds' bullshit.

Harmor wrote:

Will Iran get the nuke and kill 90,000 Israelies before the world 'acts'?
Well Israel already have a sizeable nuclear arsenal, they're well capable of responding. They're not our responsibility.

Harmor wrote:

Will Iran give nuclear technology to Al-Quada to attack U.S. interests?
Iran aren't stupid. They're not going to do something that could lead to themselves been nuked by the west. The Iranian theocracy aren't overly fond of Al Qaeda anyway - they are competitors in the 'who's the proper muslim?' contest. We all know what happens when you arm some rogue bunch of nutters anyway (CIA arming Al Qaeda in the 80s).

Harmor wrote:

Will the 30,000 Hesbolla troops inside the United States attack our malls and schools en masse killing 100,000 Americans?
You need to press the mute button on Fox methinks.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
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CameronPoe, you make it sound like we are better off pulling out of Iraq and letting the cards fall as they may.  You actually think its ok for Iran to annex part of Iraq because it would stabalize it - something we can't do now.

So with that logic, why did we help Kuwait in the 1991 Gulf War if someone like Saddam could 'keep the peace'?

What would be different now if Iran annexed 1/3 of Iraq, even if it is to ment to 'stablize' the region?

Should we allow Iran to control even more oil, basically putting a tigher squeese on the world's nuts?
ghettoperson
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Harmor wrote:

CameronPoe, you make it sound like we are better off pulling out of Iraq and letting the cards fall as they may.  You actually think its ok for Iran to annex part of Iraq because it would stabalize it - something we can't do now.

So with that logic, why did we help Kuwait in the 1991 Gulf War if someone like Saddam could 'keep the peace'?

What would be different now if Iran annexed 1/3 of Iraq, even if it is to ment to 'stablize' the region?

Should we allow Iran to control even more oil, basically putting a tigher squeese on the world's nuts?
You way want to read what he wrote

(not that I think they have a right to do such a thing)
Kuwait did not need the peace keeping. It got on perfectly happily till it got invaded.
CameronPoe
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Harmor wrote:

So with that logic, why did we help Kuwait in the 1991 Gulf War if someone like Saddam could 'keep the peace'?

What would be different now if Iran annexed 1/3 of Iraq, even if it is to ment to 'stablize' the region?

Should we allow Iran to control even more oil, basically putting a tigher squeese on the world's nuts?
Cheers to ghetto on the reading comprehension. +1.

I don't know if you've noticed Harmor but ever since the US got embroiled in the middle east the price of oil has spiralled upwards. There are plenty of alternative suppliers. The oil still has to be sold by them for them to profit. They'll just sell to different countries. The west will get their oil from other countries. Global demand will be met by global supply as always. A lot of the reason the price of oil has spiralled upwards is because the carnage in the middle east means that no-one has any trust in whether Iraq, Iran or other middle eastern nations will be able to export their oil uninterrupted. The longer the US spend there the higher the risk of supply interruptions or confidence shattering events occurring.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-06 12:31:58)

Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
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Actually I thought the reason gas prices in the United States are so high are because of the following:

  • There are so many different blends of gasoline that refineries can't make enough of the gas to meet the supply
  • No refineries have been built in the last 20 years (no one wants them in their backyard and they are very expenseive to make - upwards of 1 billion each).
  • Taxes on Gas by my account are about 45 cents of the price.
  • Oil reserves off the coast of California and Oregon will not be drilled because of the environementalists concerns of another Exxon Valdez


At least that's my understanding.

Last edited by Harmor (2007-05-06 12:47:23)

ghettoperson
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Harmor wrote:

Actually I thought the reason gas prices in the United States are so high are because of the following:

  • There are so many different blends of gasoline that refineries can't make enough of the gas to meet the supply
  • No refineries have been built in the last 20 years (no one wants them in their backyard and they are very expenseive to make - upwards of 1 billion each).
  • Taxes on Gas by account for about 45 cents of the price.
  • Oil reserves off the coast of California and Oregon will not be drilled because of the environementalists concerns of another Exxon Valdez


At least that's my understanding.
Yes, that plus starting a war around places where there are wells tends to restrict the supply of oil somewhat, meaning prices go up. Also, it's generally more dangerous to obtain.
Harmor
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Not to derail the argument too much, but what about Venezuela?  The supply interruptions that we will see in the future there were not sparked by Islamic extreamism we have in the Middle east.  19% of the oil the United States uses comes from Venezuela.



So if we let Iran, Al-Quada, and the rest of them to their own devices then the price of oil will go down and we'll all be better for that?

EDIT: Is this the 'If we can't see it or we ignore it its not a problem' attitude?

Last edited by Harmor (2007-05-06 12:51:56)

ghettoperson
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Harmor wrote:

Not to derail the argument too much, but what about Venezuela?  The supply interruptions that we will see in the future there were not sparked by Islamic extreamism we have in the Middle east.  19% of the oil the United States uses comes from Venezuela.



So if let Iran, Al-Quada and the rest of them to their own devices then the price of oil will go down and we'll all be better for that?
Oil prices are set globally, meaning that wherever you buy your oil from, your always going to be paying the same, or very similar price.

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