Define terrorism uisng your own words and give examples of people/organizations/states you consider terrorists.
Terrorism=using illegal millitary tactics instead of the proper political channels to force unpopular political/religious ideals on an unwilling group of people.
Last edited by S.Lythberg (2007-05-12 19:31:14)
I consider anything that includes people trying to force their beliefs upon other people through means of force and or fear as terrorism...
-konfusion
-konfusion
Someone who uses violence to cause fear and by causing fear gets people to do what they want.
The use of fear as a tactic to achieve their goals.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Well, how would you like it defined,
Broadly? So it can be used more effectively by the state?
Or
Narrowly? So it cannot be mis-used to suppress the people by redefining other crimes?
Broadly? So it can be used more effectively by the state?
Or
Narrowly? So it cannot be mis-used to suppress the people by redefining other crimes?
People who use guerrila tactics and IEDs.
People who pull out in front of you just to drive under the speed limit.
Villain{NY} wrote:
People who pull out in front of you just to drive under the speed limit.
My mom is a terrorist? it's all coming together........Villain{NY} wrote:
People who pull out in front of you just to drive under the speed limit.
Cerpin_Taxt wrote:
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Apart from the deliberate spam, it's quite clear that few people know what terrorism is.
No. Couldn't be more wrong - if it wasn't for guerilla tactics, the United States would not exist.People who use guerrila tactics and IEDs.
Who says their unpopular, and that the people are unwilling? Who decides what's 'legal' or not?Terrorism=using illegal millitary tactics instead of the proper political channels to force unpopular political/religious ideals on an unwilling group of people.
Close but no cigar. Fear is a means, not an end.Someone who uses violence to cause fear and by causing fear gets people to do what they want.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
So? If you don't say anything intelligent, then don't say anything at all, Bollocks.Cerpin_Taxt wrote:
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I take it you didn't agree with the Iraq invasion then? It ticks all those boxes.S.Lythberg wrote:
Terrorism=using illegal millitary tactics instead of the proper political channels to force unpopular political/religious ideals on an unwilling group of people.
I define terrorism as the use of tactics that involve the deliberate killing of civilians as part of a campaign. Civilians should never be seen as legitimate targets.
Someone who intentionally targets civilians as well as the military in order to cause civil unrest and panic.
An organisation who target civilians
Ex:
Al-Qaida who kill civilians in Iraq = Terrorists
Insurgent in Iraq who target american and iraqi soldiers = Freedom fighter
Palestinians who target IDF and settlers = Freedom fighters
Palestinians who target womans and childrens in pizzerias = Terrorists
IDF and settlers who bomb civilian area and destroy civilian infrastructure = Terrorists
American soldiers who shoot at anything that moves = Terrorists
Ex:
Al-Qaida who kill civilians in Iraq = Terrorists
Insurgent in Iraq who target american and iraqi soldiers = Freedom fighter
Palestinians who target IDF and settlers = Freedom fighters
Palestinians who target womans and childrens in pizzerias = Terrorists
IDF and settlers who bomb civilian area and destroy civilian infrastructure = Terrorists
American soldiers who shoot at anything that moves = Terrorists
So shooting at terrorists makes them terrorists?AutralianChainsaw wrote:
An organisation who target civilians
Ex:
Al-Qaida who kill civilians in Iraq = Terrorists
Insurgent in Iraq who target american and iraqi soldiers = Freedom fighter
Palestinians who target IDF and settlers = Freedom fighters
Palestinians who target womans and childrens in pizzerias = Terrorists
IDF and settlers who bomb civilian area and destroy civilian infrastructure = Terrorists
American soldiers who shoot at anything that moves = Terrorists
No, you've done that with your emphasis, changing it from talking about indiscriminate, untargetted shooting to talking about shooting at any of a number of specific targets.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
So shooting at terrorists makes them terrorists?
um no, if they shoot at insurgent and al-Qaida they are doing their job. If they shoot unarmed civilians, they are no better than al-Qaidacyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
So shooting at terrorists makes them terrorists?AutralianChainsaw wrote:
An organisation who target civilians
Ex:
Al-Qaida who kill civilians in Iraq = Terrorists
Insurgent in Iraq who target american and iraqi soldiers = Freedom fighter
Palestinians who target IDF and settlers = Freedom fighters
Palestinians who target womans and childrens in pizzerias = Terrorists
IDF and settlers who bomb civilian area and destroy civilian infrastructure = Terrorists
American soldiers who shoot at anything that moves = Terrorists
This definition is the problem in these forums.M.O.A.B wrote:
Someone who intentionally targets civilians as well as the military in order to cause civil unrest and panic.
-konfusion
Just to make you clear things upAutralianChainsaw wrote:
um no, if they shoot at insurgent and al-Qaida they are doing their job. If they shoot unarmed civilians, they are no better than al-Qaidacyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
So shooting at terrorists makes them terrorists?AutralianChainsaw wrote:
An organisation who target civilians
Ex:
Al-Qaida who kill civilians in Iraq = Terrorists
Insurgent in Iraq who target american and iraqi soldiers = Freedom fighter
Palestinians who target IDF and settlers = Freedom fighters
Palestinians who target womans and childrens in pizzerias = Terrorists
IDF and settlers who bomb civilian area and destroy civilian infrastructure = Terrorists
American soldiers who shoot at anything that moves = Terrorists
eh?konfusion wrote:
This definition is the problem in these forums.M.O.A.B wrote:
Someone who intentionally targets civilians as well as the military in order to cause civil unrest and panic.
-konfusion
Attacking the military is not terrorism.M.O.A.B wrote:
eh?konfusion wrote:
This definition is the problem in these forums.M.O.A.B wrote:
Someone who intentionally targets civilians as well as the military in order to cause civil unrest and panic.
-konfusion
What I meant was that they would attack civilians just as they would attack the military.