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Cyber-attacks on Estonia: What is this?

Act of war18%18% - 8
Act of terrorism37%37% - 16
Nothing special27%27% - 12
Something else (please elaborate)16%16% - 7
Total: 43
BVC
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http://www.economist.com/world/europe/d … N=52208538
A cyber-riot

May 10th 2007
From The Economist print edition
Estonia has faced down Russian rioters. But its websites are still under attack

FOR a small, high-tech country such as Estonia, the internet is vital. But for the past two weeks Estonia's state websites (and some private ones) have been hit by “denial of service” attacks, in which a target site is bombarded with so many bogus requests for information that it crashes.
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The internet warfare broke out on April 27th, amid a furious row between Estonia and Russia over the removal of a Soviet war monument from the centre of the capital, Tallinn, to a military cemetery (pictured below). The move sparked rioting and looting by several thousand protesters from Estonia's large population of ethnic Russians, who tend to see the statue as a cherished memorial to wartime sacrifice. Estonians mostly see it rather as a symbol of a hated foreign occupation.

The unrest, Estonia says, was orchestrated by Russia, which termed the relocation “blasphemy” and called for the government's resignation. In Moscow, a Kremlin-run youth movement sealed off and attacked Estonia's embassy, prompting protests from America, NATO and the European Union. Perhaps taken aback by the belated but firm Western support for Estonia, Russia has backpedalled. Following a deal brokered by Germany, Estonia's ambassador left for a “holiday” and the blockade ended as abruptly as it began.

But the internet attacks have continued. Some have involved defacing Estonian websites, replacing the pages with Russian propaganda or bogus apologies. Most have concentrated on shutting them down. The attacks are intensifying. The number on May 9th—the day when Russia and its allies commemorate Hitler's defeat in Europe—was the biggest yet, says Hillar Aarelaid, who runs Estonia's cyber-warfare defences. At least six sites were all but inaccessible, including those of the foreign and justice ministries. Such stunts happen at the murkier end of internet commerce: for instance, to extort money from an online casino. But no country has experienced anything on this scale.

The alarm is sounding well beyond Estonia. NATO has been paying special attention. “If a member state's communications centre is attacked with a missile, you call it an act of war. So what do you call it if the same installation is disabled with a cyber-attack?” asks a senior official in Brussels. Estonia's defence ministry goes further: a spokesman compares the attacks to those launched against America on September 11th 2001. Two of NATO's top specialists in internet warfare, plus an American colleague, have hurried to Tallinn to observe the onslaught. But international law is of little help, complains Rein Lang, Estonia's justice minister.

The crudest attacks come with the culprit's electronic fingerprints. The Estonians say that some of the earliest salvoes came from computers linked to the Russian government. But most of them come from many thousands of ordinary computers, all over the world. Some of these are run by private citizens angry with Estonia. Anonymously posted instructions on how to launch denial-of-service attacks have been sprouting on Russian-language internet sites. Many others come from “botnets”—chains of computers that have been hijacked by viruses to take part in such raids without their owners knowing. Such botnets can be created, or simply rented from cyber-criminals.

To remain open to local users, Estonia has had to cut access to its sites from abroad. That is potentially more damaging to the country's economy than the limited Russian sanctions announced so far, such as cutting passenger rail services between Tallinn and St Petersburg. It certainly hampers Estonia's efforts to counter Russian propaganda that portrays the country as a fascist hellhole. “We are back to the stone age, telling the world what is going on with phone and fax,” says an Estonian internet expert. Mikko Hyppönen of F-Secure, a Finnish internet security company that has been monitoring the attacks, says the best defence is to have strong networks of servers in many countries. That is not yet NATO's job. But it may be soon.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Midway between war and terror. This is designed primarly to frighten the Estonian government into falling into line.
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~ Richard Feynman
=OBS= EstebanRey
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I don't think it's that bad, afterall Russia did give Serbia 5 points in the Eurovision song contest...
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7223|UK
I wouldn't say DOS attacks on a website were neither an act of terrorism or war. Obviously if they started to hack or attack computers etc within the government or the military this would change things.

Last edited by Milk.org (2007-05-13 00:50:05)

Madiz
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+26|7203
Ohh its finally here. Yea these russians are attacing our network, public companies, banks etc. All this is caused by removing one statue to another place.
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AudioAtomica
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That's def. terrorism. It's the Russians attempt to "make them fall in line." as Spark put it.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Steal a wallet, that's theft. Hijack a credit card online, theft. Think about it for a bit.
bobby177
Member
+129|6921|Texas.. getting out asap

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Steal a wallet, that's theft. Hijack a credit card online, theft. Think about it for a bit.
This isn't stealing credit cards, it's just.... slowing someone down
jonsimon
Member
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Steal a wallet, that's theft. Hijack a credit card online, theft. Think about it for a bit.
Actually, the second scenario is fraud. That's why it sucks so bad, you the bank often isnt liable to pay you back, and the 'thief' isn't caught.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina
Russia committing acts of terror?  Say it ain't so....

With the way things are starting to look, we may end up attacking Russia instead of Iran.
jonsimon
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Turquoise wrote:

Russia committing acts of terror?  Say it ain't so....

With the way things are starting to look, we may end up attacking Russia instead of Iran.
Who says it is Russian? It could be some script kiddies that don't like Estonia. Why does everyone assume that any activity within a nation is sponsored by its government?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

jonsimon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Russia committing acts of terror?  Say it ain't so....

With the way things are starting to look, we may end up attacking Russia instead of Iran.
Who says it is Russian? It could be some script kiddies that don't like Estonia. Why does everyone assume that any activity within a nation is sponsored by its government?
Good point...  Again, I'm not saying we should invade Russia, but given the hawkishness of Washington these days, anything is possible.....
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|7010|British Columbia, Canada
That would be smart... Go to war with Russia...

Which would mean going to war with Iran and China too.. Just what they need, 3 more wars to fight.
KuriVaiM (EST)
Member
+17|7199|Estonia
its just pure propaganda
jonsimon
Member
+224|6942

Turquoise wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Russia committing acts of terror?  Say it ain't so....

With the way things are starting to look, we may end up attacking Russia instead of Iran.
Who says it is Russian? It could be some script kiddies that don't like Estonia. Why does everyone assume that any activity within a nation is sponsored by its government?
Good point...  Again, I'm not saying we should invade Russia, but given the hawkishness of Washington these days, anything is possible.....
Uncle Sam needs YOU! to invade Albania.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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This remind anybody of Chaos Theory's storyline?

I'd be curious to see information warefare carried out between two countries.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
elstonieo
Oil 4 Euros not $$$
+20|6785|EsSeX

Flecco wrote:

This remind anybody of Chaos Theory's storyline?

I'd be curious to see information warefare carried out between two countries.
erm isnt that what TV is for
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7112|NT, like Mick Dundee

elstonieo wrote:

Flecco wrote:

This remind anybody of Chaos Theory's storyline?

I'd be curious to see information warefare carried out between two countries.
erm isnt that what TV is for
Hahaha. Smartarse.

Chaos Theory's storyline posed the posibility of using "weaponised" algorithms for PCs. Say a hacker taking out a power grid (specific example from the game) or causing some sort of economic damage.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

Spark wrote:

Midway between war and terror. This is designed primarly to frighten the Estonian government into falling into line.
Frighten them with a lack of internet services?

It's not a terror attack.  It's an attack on economy and communications.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire
Crazy Rooskies, this is another example of Russia's toughening position on the world stage. This is similar to when they turned off the gas supply when the Ukrainians didn't like how they were doing business. Looks like the US didn't have to start a war against Islam (oops, I meant terror) after all.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6670|Escea

If it is Russian then wtf are they doing? They're sort of prodding around at things at the minute, bit like what Iran was doing not that long ago. I'd say it was for communications disablement, maybe install a little fear, nothing major, but worth keeping an eye on.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008
I'd like to take this moment to call everybody who voted act of terrorism a twit.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
thats why they aint in NATO

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