I'm guessing the suicide had a lot more to do with the diet pills themselves, rather than the diet pills "cancelling out" the effects of some mood-enhancing wonder drug.EVieira wrote:
Would you call a person who jumps off a building a sane person? This specific person is a woman, tall and great looking, happily married with 3 children. She had clinical depression, and took daily medication prescribed by her psychiatrist. She was the mother of a friend of mine. She had a normal, happy life.Yaocelotl wrote:
They don't feel, they are forced to feel via medication or just by simply venting out. But the issue here is that they don't, by any manners, have a proof to say that someone is nuts.Hurricane wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a lie... why do some people who are chronically depressed feel better after good therapy and/or good medicinal treatment?
One day an endocrinologist prescribed her some diet pills, as she wanted to loose weight (as all women do...) without knowing she was on other medication. The diet pills cancelled out the effects of the other medication, and she committed suicide in a weeks time.
My friend's mother would still be alive today if it were up to psychiatry. To me, thats undeniable proof that it is as important any other medical field, but probably the hardest one to understand.
Forensics, with some pharmacology, proved they were the cause. I'm not guessing.geNius wrote:
I'm guessing the suicide had a lot more to do with the diet pills themselves, rather than the diet pills "cancelling out" the effects of some mood-enhancing wonder drug.EVieira wrote:
Would you call a person who jumps off a building a sane person? This specific person is a woman, tall and great looking, happily married with 3 children. She had clinical depression, and took daily medication prescribed by her psychiatrist. She was the mother of a friend of mine. She had a normal, happy life.Yaocelotl wrote:
They don't feel, they are forced to feel via medication or just by simply venting out. But the issue here is that they don't, by any manners, have a proof to say that someone is nuts.
One day an endocrinologist prescribed her some diet pills, as she wanted to loose weight (as all women do...) without knowing she was on other medication. The diet pills cancelled out the effects of the other medication, and she committed suicide in a weeks time.
My friend's mother would still be alive today if it were up to psychiatry. To me, thats undeniable proof that it is as important any other medical field, but probably the hardest one to understand.
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Randomness ftw!Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
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its voodoo magictopal63 wrote:
Are you joking?jonsimon wrote:
... Medical science isn't science.
InsaneMason4Assassin444 wrote:
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Maybe it's just psychological. They just feel "better" because they feel better.Hurricane wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a lie... why do some people who are chronically depressed feel better after good therapy and/or good medicinal treatment?
This is nothing new. It has always been a hit-or-miss occupation.Yaocelotl wrote:
Psychiatrists openly admitting at the 2006 APA convention that they have no scientific tests to prove mental illness and have no cures for these unproven mental illnesses.
I have always knew and believed that because there isn't a model from where to judge which people are "crazy" and which ones are "sane".
Good to hear you'll be off it soon enough. A lot of medications have 'no side effects,' but have never been well tested in the long term. Good luck to you.CameronPoe wrote:
Lithium is a whole 'nother ball game from what I take. I'm taking a modern SSRI that has little or no side effects whatsoever. To be honest I can hardly remember what it feels like to be in the state I was - all I know is that I'd rather not lapse back into it. The drug is designed to increase the brain's production of serotonin to 'meet demand'. When taken for a considerable period one then ramps off the drug gradually and your brain supposedly picks up the slack of serotonin production. I intend to ramp down soon.jonsimon wrote:
I'm guessing not. Pharmecuticals are rarely, if ever, tested in long-term studies. Most drugs are very dangerous. After all, you don't ususally think of ingesting chemicals which have a half-life as healthy. Add to that, at least in the states, Doctors face a huge conflict of interests as they are wined and dined (often literally) by big pharma. Medical science isn't science.cryptofcolumbus wrote:
I'm guessing his doctor knows better than you.
Yeah, I'm sure his doctor knows better than me, just like my dad's doctor did while the lithium my dad was taking fucked him over from the inside.
and John Travolta for Vice President.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Tom Cruise for President!
You should publish that, call it the "anti-placebo effect."haffeysucks wrote:
Maybe it's just psychological. They just feel "better" because they feel better.Hurricane wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a lie... why do some people who are chronically depressed feel better after good therapy and/or good medicinal treatment?
Placebos only work for certain problems. Sorry.haffeysucks wrote:
Maybe it's just psychological. They just feel "better" because they feel better.Hurricane wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a lie... why do some people who are chronically depressed feel better after good therapy and/or good medicinal treatment?