MetalMaiden
Girls>Boys
+80|7050|Hoosier Mama

JG1567JG wrote:

My team is still the team to beat. 
GO COLTS
jord
Member
+2,382|7142|The North, beyond the wall.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

jord wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:


No, the fact is that we just don't give a shit.  In the dictionary for the word bored it just says, (See soccer).
You speaking for all Americans there?
I figure there are about as many "mericuns" that like that pansy ass sport you call football, as there are Euros that like our football.
I'm not going to argue with you, i can only use one arm due to a Football injury.Football as in feet.

I broke my arm playing Football on Thursday, but yeah pansy ass describes it.

Don't comment on things you no little about, you don't see me going into depth about American Football do you?

Took me like 5 minutes to write this with one hand.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6953|Gogledd Cymru

agent dung bomb ....

itrnts srs bsns
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7001|Long Island, New York
Ben Graham, punter for the Jets played Rugby. And he gets payed a LOT more than when he played Rugby.

Last edited by Poseidon (2007-05-18 11:55:02)

Taten
Member
+4|6672|Good Old Blitey
well rugby union players were all amateurs until a few years ago so yeah he probaly is getting payed a lot more, so fucking what, oh by the the way is that the Ben Graham who played aussie rules football?
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6938|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
Until the American football players play WITHOUT their pussy armour, then rugby is and always will be a better and tougher game with real men playing the game
Eagle
Togs8896 is my evil alter ego
+567|7095|New Hampshire, USA

djphetal wrote:

Will someone kill me for saying GO PATRIOTS!!!!
W00t!

(i've liked them since before brady and the 3 championships... wanna call me a bandwagon fan? My favorite baseball team is the Blue Jays.)
+1

Belichick's Patriots FTW!!!!!!!!!
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/14407/Sig_Pats.jpg
Entertayner
Member
+826|7034

Poseidon wrote:

Ben Graham, punter for the Jets played Rugby. And he gets payed a LOT more than when he played Rugby.
Who cares?  Money comes before having fun?  Unless you're not right in the head then no.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6954|Menlo Park, CA

MrE`158 wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

I love how guys write rugby is tougher than football. . . .

If an American football team went out there against a rugby team, they would destroy the rugby team!

A. Bigger and Stronger B. faster (rugby has too many white dudes who think they are fast). C. overall better athletes play football/more variety of athelete

Rugby players are big, but not as big as American Football players. . . .Rugby players are fast, but couldn't come close to the speed of some runningbacks, recievers, and cornerbacks have in the NFL.  Lets put it this way, I would much rather have some international rugby player hit me coming over the middle than say a Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis. . . .or in the past Lawrence Taylor!!!

For christs sake, linebackers in the NFL are as fast as the "speedsters" in rugby, AND BIGGER AND STRONGER!!!!

Rugby is great, but you dont see too many rugby players steppin up and playin football. . . .the only rugby players I have seen "step up" become kickers in the NFL!! LOL
You're right, American football players are, generally, bigger.  And yes, if you lined everyone up in American football style they'd smash the rugby players about. 

For about three minutes.  At that point, the big Americans would need to stop and have a breather, and the rugby players would just keep at it.  Rugby forwards run more or less non-stop, pausing only for scrums and line-outs (I played second-row and flanker).  They have to not only have size and strength, but also endurance, and technique. 

I don't know how fast linebackers, running backs and so on are in American football, but I know that the fastest rugby players (usually the wingers) can typically cover a hundred meters in about 11 seconds.  That's not bad by anyone's standards.  The forwards are usually the biggest men on the pitch, and the big guys there are usually 18-20 stone (260-280lbs.)  How much bigger are NFL players?

One of my favourite ever players is/was Jonah Lomu, a New Zealander.  Look at the stats on that wiki page, at his prime he was 273lbs and could cover the hundred meters in under 10.9 seconds.  And, he could keep on running for an entire 80 minute match.

I'm not in the least bit surprised that rugby players rarely move on to NFL, they've built themselves up in entirely different ways, it'd take months of training to bulk up the extra muscle, and more months of training to learn how to tackle differently and so on.

They're two different games, with two different kinds of body-builds needed.  NFL demands huge bulk and sheer power, coupled with sprinting ability.  Rugby also needs bulk, power and outright speed, but not to the detriment of the players endurance.  NFL players would destroy rugby players at American football.  Rugby players would destroy NFL players are rugby football.

I much, much prefer rugby over NFL.  I don't like the way the game breaks so often, rugby's continuous flow of play is far more entertaining for me.  NFL seems to be all about the 'plays' and specific tactics, which you set up for and then try.  In rugby, you have far less control over how you set up, and specific tactical plays are less rigid and defined, instead you have a match-wide strategy to follow.

It's personal preference, I guess, and when you think about it the two games aren't particularly comparable, but for my money the stop-start pace of NFL is a pain in the arse.  I find rugby to be one of the most enjoyable spectator sports around, and I've introduced more than a few of my American buddies to its joys when they've been to visit.
Dont get me wrong, I am not bashing rugby at all!! Its a fun sport to play and watch!!

You say the biggest guys in rugby are between 260 and 280. . . .280 is an undersized Offensive lineman! A defensive tackle at 260 would get pushed all over the football field!! 

Their was a Steelers linebacker (a linebacker people!!!) Levon Kirkland. . . .He was between 275-300 pounds during his career.  He terrorized offenses with his size, speed, and devastating hits!! This guy was fucking enormous!!!

Both sports are fun to watch, and are different. . . .I just think that a rugby player attempting to make it in the NFL would have a harder time than an NFL player making it in rugby. . . .

Plus. . . .oddly enough rugby players tend to have longer careers than NFL players (yet NFL players wear pads, and rugby players don't! go figure. . .)

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-05-18 12:41:05)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7085|London, England
You need the guy that catches the ball (runner?) from the throwing guy (quarterback?) to be fast and agile in Yank Football. The most interesting bit has to be the running bit, sometimes those runners can do awesome stuff. Sometimes it's hilarious seeing them ploughed straight through by the bigger guys. Funny stuff.
Entertayner
Member
+826|7034

NFL with no protection and no stupid stopping in between to have a quickie in the closet with the manager.  Now that'd be a game I'd watch.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6686|Escea

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
jord
Member
+2,382|7142|The North, beyond the wall.

M.O.A.B wrote:

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7126|USA

smtt686 wrote:

Ok, the secrets out.  You guys can confess, you like american football. 

Its ok, it really is.  We like it, so we knew you would, even if you have to hide the fact.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/f … ml?cnn=yes
I thought last years Cardinals vs 49ers in Mexico City was the first game outside of North America.
Taten
Member
+4|6672|Good Old Blitey

jord wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
cos it was in Rugby where that happened, the sport was named after the town
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6686|Escea

jord wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
Well at least you tried
He was blatantly stealing the ball at the time.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-05-18 13:18:51)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6686|Escea

Taten wrote:

jord wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
cos it was in Rugby where that happened, the sport was named after the town
There's a town named Rugby? Man I know bugger all about England even though a I live here.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7085|London, England

M.O.A.B wrote:

Taten wrote:

jord wrote:

Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
cos it was in Rugby where that happened, the sport was named after the town
There's a town named Rugby? Man I know bugger all about England even though a I live here.
I had no idea you were from England. What with your name, location and sig. Mate i don't think we have M.O.A.B'z and/or C-130's.

Loads of old stuff though.
jord
Member
+2,382|7142|The North, beyond the wall.

M.O.A.B wrote:

jord wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

How did rugby even get the name rugby? This has always eluded me.
Alls i know is a guy picked up the ball in the middle of a Football match and started running with it. Apparently that's how it was invented...

So to not answer your question, a guy playing Football invented it.
Well at least you tried
He was blatantly stealing the ball at the time.
Imagine the reaction he got.

"Handball seriously what the fuck are you doing"

"I don't know but it feels so right!"

Last edited by jord (2007-05-18 13:36:07)

wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6924|UK
Nah we just like the half time shows .
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6686|Escea

Mekstizzle wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Taten wrote:


cos it was in Rugby where that happened, the sport was named after the town
There's a town named Rugby? Man I know bugger all about England even though a I live here.
I had no idea you were from England. What with your name, location and sig. Mate i don't think we have M.O.A.B'z and/or C-130's.

Loads of old stuff though.
We do have C-130's, no MOAB's though
I'm half English, half American, hence the sig
^Mam               ^Dad
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7128|NT, like Mick Dundee

American Football sucks for many of the same reasons Rugby League does. To choppy and quite a few other problems that if you get me started I'll be ranting for pages so.... Yeah...

In short, Union is the best.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6953|Gogledd Cymru

Flecco wrote:

American Football sucks for many of the same reasons Rugby League does. To choppy and quite a few other problems that if you get me started I'll be ranting for pages so.... Yeah...

In short, Union is the best.
nj captun
Taten
Member
+4|6672|Good Old Blitey
i like them both, but rugby league is really for the southern pussies in england 'OOH you gotta gimme the after five tackles otherwise it aint fair' lol
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7128|NT, like Mick Dundee

surgeon_bond wrote:

Flecco wrote:

American Football sucks for many of the same reasons Rugby League does. To choppy and quite a few other problems that if you get me started I'll be ranting for pages so.... Yeah...

In short, Union is the best.
nj captun
Used to play a breakaway or prop for my regional union team. We only ever played league when we got tired.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

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