KEN-JENNINGS
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3176644&page=1
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/ … 8006.shtml
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272571,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01612.html

"President Bush has chosen Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, the Defense Department's director of operations, to oversee the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan as a "war czar" after a long search for new leadership, administration officials said Tuesday."

Do you think it is wise to have a "War Czar"?

Do you think Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute is a good choice?

Discuss

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-05-17 16:51:25)

Ryan
Member
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Czar Bush will be killed just like Czar Nicholas II.
CameronPoe
Member
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Imperial Russia FTW
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6984|Chicago
It says something about the state of the supposedly democratic United States when they start appointing Czars.

The term Czar defined (According to Wikipedia): Tsar (Bulgarian, Serbian and Macedonian цар, Russian царь (helpĀ·info), Croatian car, in scientific transliteration respectively car and car' ), often spelled Czar, and sometimes Tzar, Csar, or Zar in English, is a Slavonic term designating certain monarchs.

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Havok
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RedTwizzler wrote:

It says something about the state of the supposedly democratic United States when they start appointing Czars.

The term Czar defined (According to Wikipedia): Tsar (Bulgarian, Serbian and Macedonian цар, Russian царь (helpĀ·info), Croatian car, in scientific transliteration respectively car and car' ), often spelled Czar, and sometimes Tzar, Csar, or Zar in English, is a Slavonic term designating certain monarchs.
America is less and less a democracy every day...
Hurricane
Banned
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Pretty cool title.

Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, War Czar, United States of America
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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Czar is Russian for Caesar.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Do you think it is wise to have a "War Czar"?
bad idea. one of the worst ideas yet actually.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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oh my god
bonedoc69
Member
+36|6858|Eugene, Oregon U.S.A.
My thought is Bush needs a fall guy. I don't think it matters who.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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ON paper, the appointment of three-star Gen. Douglas E. Lute as White House "war czar" - after five retired four-stars turned down the job - makes perfect sense. It's about time somebody took charge.

The reality is something else: The whoppingly mislabeled "czar" will have neither the authority to force departments and agencies to do what they were supposed to do all along, nor the vital power of the purse.

He'll have to rely on persuasion. In D.C., that's a joke.

Lord knows, the administration needs a grown-up to make its brats do their homework, to ensure that our commanders and troops get the support they need and to look ahead instead of forever scrambling to fix yesterday's goofs.

etc...etc...
Xbone Stormsurgezz
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
its funny how govt is getting bigger since the commander in chief came in. oh well.
ATG
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So, now the bush admin has a liason to the generals and somebody in charge of the wars.
About time.


Rolls eyes

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GunSlinger OIF II
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ATG wrote:

So, now the bush admin has a liason to the generals and somebody in charge of the wars.
About time.


Rolls eyes
seriously...thats why we have a chief of staff for the armed forces.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-05-17 19:24:37)

jsnipy
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nothing good ever comes form someone with the title of "Czar"
bonedoc69
Member
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Just look at the amazing job the "drug czar" did in the war on drugs, the only thing the drug war is missing is a banner proclaiming "mission accomplished".
KEN-JENNINGS
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Kmarion wrote:

ON paper, the appointment of three-star Gen. Douglas E. Lute as White House "war czar" - after five retired four-stars turned down the job - makes perfect sense. It's about time somebody took charge.

The reality is something else: The whoppingly mislabeled "czar" will have neither the authority to force departments and agencies to do what they were supposed to do all along, nor the vital power of the purse.

He'll have to rely on persuasion. In D.C., that's a joke.

Lord knows, the administration needs a grown-up to make its brats do their homework, to ensure that our commanders and troops get the support they need and to look ahead instead of forever scrambling to fix yesterday's goofs.

etc...etc...
From that article:

And the elephant-with-dysentery on the White House South Lawn is, of course, the spectacularly corrupt and incompetent private-sector involvement in Iraq....Will he have the authority to regulate and discipline the private security firms whose thugs have done so much to undermine our relations with the average Iraqi?
This is obviously a political/P.R. move and nothing else.  He is either going to take the fall for the 'loss in Iraq' or become a Political Officer of influence for the Bush Administration. 

There is a Joint Chiefs of Staff for a reason.  I like how the Bush Administration just creates new titles like "War Czar" and "Department of Homeland Security".

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-05-17 19:41:53)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

There is a Joint Chiefs of Staff for a reason.  I like how the Bush Administration just creates new titles like "War Czar" and "Department of Homeland Security".
Proof positive that Bush is not a Conservative.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6984|Long Island, New York
hay guyz my name is war czar

lol, when I first saw this on Yahoo! I nearly pissed myself.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7028|the dank(super) side of Oregon
This war czar is nothing but a safety buffer for bush, rove and cheney.  I almost feel sorry for the bastard who takes up the position.   They should have called the position 'commander in chief of the armed forces'.
Hunter/Jumper
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how easily they wet their pants "someone said czar " shudder !
Anfidurl
Use the bumper, that's what its for!
+103|7040|Lexington, Kentucky
I came in here to post that Bush was going to use this man to cover his behind, and that he's making government bigger (Republicans, party of small government?) but I see I've been beaten to the punch. I tip my hat to y'all.
topal63
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Czar schmar, what's in a name, his actual authority will be rather limited.

Hey why can't we have other names instead for these types of positions (appointments)

Like the Grand Poobah of War!
https://i18.tinypic.com/52krzfc.jpg
You might not have the authority you should, but you get to wear this hat!

Last edited by topal63 (2007-05-18 12:45:25)

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