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First, building up troops to attack Israel is possibly the worst move Hamas could do.  Israel has never lost a war, and can eradicate armies much larger than it's own in a matter of days.  Bringing its troops together would only simplify the task.  Also, I doubt many would shed a tear if Ahmadinejad got what he deserves from Israel.  The Israel/Palestine conflict is obviously a proxy war for the U.S. and Iran, and I'm sure that Iran will see combat on it's territory in the next few years, whether it's U.S. or Israeli soldiers remains to be seen.

Sure, Hamas can build up an army and try to fight against Israel, but it will just be a loss for them.
And if Israel thinks the only way to end the rocket attacks is to kill all the Hamas leaders, they are wrong. Killing the leaders won;t stop the attacks. Just look at the killing of the Taliban leader. He is dead, but the Taliban aren't. They will continue to appoint new leaders and right now, they are unstoppable. This applies the same to the Israel vs. Hamas situation. Israel can fight all they want against Hamas, but if all the Hamas leaders are killed, more and more will be appointed. It's just one neverending circle of warfare and conflict.

CameronPoe wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

The Israel/Palestine conflict is obviously a proxy war for the U.S. and Iran

lol.....no.  sorry that just gave me a chuckle.

What, so Israel saying they need to whack the people giving orders is an example of why they should be destroyed, and America invading afghanistan and Iraq to stop terrorist attacks is perfectly fine?
Hypocrite.

Seriously, israel are just trying to defend themselves. They're surrounded by countries (and an entire religion) dead set on wiping them out, surviving on practically nothing but their own determination to keep their holy land, and have been picked on throughout history. Mod edit- You people need to think on your own instead of jumping on the bandwagon. -FM

Skorpy-chan wrote:

You anti-israel spewers are no better than Hitler, jumping on the anti-semite bandwagon.

As gunslinger so eloquently put it: lol.....no.  sorry that just gave me a chuckle.

Fen321 wrote:

Israeli minister issues death threat to Hamas leaders

Guardian Unlimited wrote:

All Hamas leaders should be killed to end rocket attacks from Gaza, a senior Israeli cabinet official said today, as Israeli planes carried out new air strikes in the territory.

"I don't distinguish between those who carry out the (rocket) attacks and those who give the orders. I say we have to put them all in the crosshairs," said Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, the national infrastructure minister, on Israel Radio.

Now, I understand the amount of shock the alleged "wiping off the map" comment from our good old friend Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. And yet -- I find it strangely ironic that an individual in Israel would come to such terms, but in so doing completely destroy all credence that we should only fear Iran for its loony leaders and "possible" intentions to create nuclear weapons.  When we have a perfect example of a loony leader in Israel whom has nuclear weapons dishing out death threats.

Sure, you may argue that they have a right to self defense. Although this may be true it does not have the same backwards one sided application that Israel or other countries may have you believe. For it too would apply to Hamas as well.

By comparison to the call to wipe out a country's elected leadership to that of Ahmadinejad's alleged comments on Israel. Would it be justifiable for Hamas to build up troops near Israeli positions and respond to the threats as we have vis a vi war ship deployments and pressure within Iraq?

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erm, uhh, WTF did you just say!?!?!????? 
Did you bother to read, in context, what was said or even your own quote - me thinks not M8!
- Rockets vs. Nukes - not same ball game, hell, not same universe!
- Take lethal action against those firing rockets and those who gave orders vs. the elected leader of a country who states that an entire country, ethnic, and religious group be exterminated off the face of the earth (big word for you "FOREVER!"). With your logic this would fall into the context of your use of the word "possible".
- "Sure, you may argue that they have a right to self defense". Yes, hell yes, fooking yes!!!! YES AND YES!!!!!
What part of the difference between your choice word "possible" and "actually has happened" do you not get.
- "By comparison to the call to wipe out a country's elected leadership to that of Ahmadinejad's alleged comments on Israel".  Alleged, ALLEGED!!!!  Do you solely depend on your news from the left bias media and the Anti-Semite Times.  Everyone else in the world heard it and read his statement loud and clear.
- "Would it be justifiable for Hamas to build up troops near Israeli positions and respond to the threats".
Oh, hell no! - you didn't type that did you!?!  Building-up troops to respond to threats by a country who is being attacked and provoked in an effort to draw attention away from their own inter-government murderous insanity - WTF! 
That's like saying it's okay for someone to stand outside of your house with a gun because they threatened to take action against you because you attacked one their family members because you and your wife was having a fight
- And WTF does the issue in Irag have to do with this isssue!

Please tell me you went to Berkeley

Kaboom.

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

- Rockets vs. Nukes - not same ball game, hell, not same universe!

You seemed to have missed the point almost entirely - my emphasis on the nuclear weapons was only made to point out the fact that Israel posses them. This was not a comparison between what type of arsenal we are going to chose to dish out the killing.

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

- Take lethal action against those firing rockets and those who gave orders vs. the elected leader of a country who states that an entire country, ethnic, and religious group be exterminated off the face of the earth (big word for you "FOREVER!"). With your logic this would fall into the context of your use of the word "possible".

Notice how you left out the most important part of the quote ALL HAMAS LEADERS. What are you a twit that can't even read the quote yet still muster the strength to call me out on my quote?

The leader of Iran is not the President of Iran, but hey you already...no wait you didn't know that did you? The supreme ruler of Iran Ali Hoseini-KHAMENEI.  With my logic you would have refrained from stating your own words such as EXTERMINATED. Last i checked he said no such thing, but i digress lets assume for the sake of argument that he has said this. Now then why is it "bad" for him to say this but "status-quo" defense argument when our good friend in the Israeli minister says destroy a politically elected wing inside occupied territories?

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

- "By comparison to the call to wipe out a country's elected leadership to that of Ahmadinejad's alleged comments on Israel".  Alleged, ALLEGED!!!!  Do you solely depend on your news from the left bias media and the Anti-Semite Times.  Everyone else in the world heard it and read his statement loud and clear.

This one was classic -- Anti-Semite times hahah what the hell does this have to do with any religious under tones. I can bash Israel's policies all day and you want to bring this down to some bullshit i repeat BULLSHIT argument about hatred towards a race. Man seriously. And the part about everyone HEARING IT and READING his statements was that before or after translations?

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

That's like saying it's okay for someone to stand outside of your house with a gun because they threatened to take action against you because you attacked one their family members because you and your wife was having a fight

Great anology next time use some punctioation so i can understand it a tad better .

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

- And WTF does the issue in Irag have to do with this isssue!

uhh do you know where Iraq is situated in the world map?

i guess not

Schwarzelungen wrote:

im not sure how anti israel automatically equates to anti-semetism....thats just funny

Perhaps because Israel is primarily a jewish country?

Lets get those sanctions rolling.... "You see me rolling and hatin...tryin catch me ridin dirty"

God I hated that song ^^

Ontopic: Right on!!!!

konfusion wrote:

Again - think before you speak - or did you not bother to read my post?

-konfusion

Why would I bother? All it'd be is more 'mwa mwa mwa israel sucks i hate jews mwa mwa mwa', like a broken record.

Skorpy-chan wrote:

konfusion wrote:

Again - think before you speak - or did you not bother to read my post?

-konfusion

Why would I bother? All it'd be is more 'mwa mwa mwa israel sucks i hate jews mwa mwa mwa', like a broken record.

Do you try to be a tool, or does it just come naturally?

Fen321 wrote:

Israeli minister issues death threat to Hamas leaders

Guardian Unlimited wrote:

All Hamas leaders should be killed to end rocket attacks from Gaza, a senior Israeli cabinet official said today, as Israeli planes carried out new air strikes in the territory.

"I don't distinguish between those who carry out the (rocket) attacks and those who give the orders. I say we have to put them all in the crosshairs," said Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, the national infrastructure minister, on Israel Radio.

Now, I understand the amount of shock the alleged "wiping off the map" comment from our good old friend Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. And yet -- I find it strangely ironic that an individual in Israel would come to such terms, but in so doing completely destroy all credence that we should only fear Iran for its loony leaders and "possible" intentions to create nuclear weapons.  When we have a perfect example of a loony leader in Israel whom has nuclear weapons dishing out death threats.

Sure, you may argue that they have a right to self defense. Although this may be true it does not have the same backwards one sided application that Israel or other countries may have you believe. For it too would apply to Hamas as well.

By comparison to the call to wipe out a country's elected leadership to that of Ahmadinejad's alleged comments on Israel. Would it be justifiable for Hamas to build up troops near Israeli positions and respond to the threats as we have vis a vi war ship deployments and pressure within Iraq?

Source

If the cowardly fuckers want to stand up and fight, let them.


You hold Israel far more accountable than Hamas.