Kmar
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20 May 2007 - Tripoli, Lebanon - Lebanese tanks pounded the headquarters of a
group with suspected links to al Qaeda in a Palestinian refugee camp near Tripoli Sunday after the
northern city's worst clashes in two decades killed 22 soldiers and 17 militants. And air strikes
continue in Gaza strip by Israeli forces as the Middle East begins its final plunge into war....
It begins! 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070521/ap_ … iolence_79
https://i18.tinypic.com/53f6a9c.jpg  https://i4.tinypic.com/639bfif.jpg


TRIPOLI, Lebanon - Lebanese troops blasted a Palestinian refugee camp with artillery and tank fire again Monday, seeking to destroy a militant group with al-Qaida ties. The barrage smashed buildings and sent plumes of black smoke towering over the crowded camp on the Mediterranean.


The fierce, two-day battle has killed nearly 50 combatants and an unknown number of civilians, raising fears that Lebanon's worst internal violence since the 1975-1990 civil war could spread in a country with an uneasy balancing act among various sects and factions.

Refugees in the Nahr el-Bared camp, on the outskirts of the northern port city of Tripoli, hid in their homes as fighting raged, and Palestinian officials in the camp said nine civilians were killed Monday. Reports from the camp could not be confirmed because officials and reporters could not get inside.

"There are many wounded. We're under siege. There is a shortage of bread, medicine and electricity. There are children under the rubble" of damaged buildings, Sana Abu Faraj, a resident of the camp, told Al-Jazeera television by cell phone.


All this is happening inside Lebanon right now.

https://i6.tinypic.com/62h4ci1.jpg https://i7.tinypic.com/54lv6hd.jpg
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usmarine
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...to the shores of Tripoli.

Send in the Marines?
CameronPoe
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It's ironic how the Lebanese are now adopting the inefficient and barbaric tactic the Israelis employed in their failed attempt to get back their two captured soldiers in the recent conflict in Lebanon, eh? What a steaming pile of intense smelling mottled green elephant shit the middle east is.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-21 16:29:09)

d4rkst4r
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Heres the middle east for ya.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
Kmar
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CameronPoe wrote:

It's ironic how the Lebanese are now adopting the inefficient and barbaric tactic the Israelis employed in their failed attempt to get back their two captured soldiers in the recent conflict in Lebanon, eh? What a steaming pile of intense smelling mottled green elephant shit the middle east is.
Cam what I can't understand is why the "violent extremist" are attacking Lebanon. Is it because Syria no longer controls them? I know Syria has made this statement..
"Fatah Islam is rejected and does not serve the Palestinian cause. On the contrary, it harms it in every way," he said in Damascus. Syria closed a border crossing near Tripoli, though other crossings into Lebanon remained open..

So why all the violence towards a nation that is allowing refuge? Is Lebanon going to collapse?
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UGADawgs
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Looks like the Lebanese are going to suffer from the same mentality that Israel had: aerial bombings (or in Lebanon's case, shellings) will solve anything. The Lebanese should just say to hell with whatever pledges they had made not to enter the camps and go ahead and take out the terrorists.
Superslim
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usmarine2005 wrote:

...to the shores of Tripoli.

Send in the Marines?
No, no more Marines, let the savages kill each other. We don't need to lose more good men (and women) fighting other peoples battles and then getting spit on.
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Kmarion wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

It's ironic how the Lebanese are now adopting the inefficient and barbaric tactic the Israelis employed in their failed attempt to get back their two captured soldiers in the recent conflict in Lebanon, eh? What a steaming pile of intense smelling mottled green elephant shit the middle east is.
Cam what I can't understand is why the "violent extremist" are attacking Lebanon. Is it because Syria no longer controls them? I know Syria has made this statement..
"Fatah Islam is rejected and does not serve the Palestinian cause. On the contrary, it harms it in every way," he said in Damascus. Syria closed a border crossing near Tripoli, though other crossings into Lebanon remained open..

So why all the violence towards a nation that is allowing refuge? Is Lebanon going to collapse?
The politics of Lebanon are unbelievably complex, not least because of the massive Palestinian refugee problem which has caused aggravation many times in the past (as it has in Jordan and in other middle eastern countries). As an outsider looking in I'm thinking a number of things:

* The Palestinian movement is having a major identity crisis, buckling under the weight of decades of hardship. Splinter groups and special interest terrorist organisations are springing up everywhere because the answers to their daily problems are not forthcoming and hope is nigh-on non-existent. In the last throes of the troubles in Northern Ireland the IRA fractured into all sorts of splinter groups. The Continuity IRA killed circa 30 civilians, including children and a pregnant woman, both Catholics and Protestants, in response to the signing of the Good Friday Agreement.  Something similar is happening here. You need only look at what is essentially civil war in the Gaza strip to confirm this.

* This group has links to Al Qaeda, which is an ideological arch-nemesis of Ba'athist Syria. Syria is very much a 'landed classes call the shots' not 'clerics call the shots' country and the Palestinian cause has always been  primarily a political cause rather than a religious cause. As such Syria does not like this little upstart rabble. Syria seek full 'legitimate ownership' of the Palestinian struggle along with Iran in their power joust with Saudi Arabia.

* I sincerely doubt Lebanon will collapse. The Lebanese are by and large a progressive people - they will not give up their way of life without a fight and the system of government and the armed forces in place at the moment seem relatively stable to me.
Kmar
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I added video to the OP.

Cam I asked that last question because civil war seems to be thrown around quite a bit when talking about the Lebanese situation now.
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man, i love that place.
Kmar
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

man, i love that place.
Hey GS can you ID this gun?
https://i14.tinypic.com/5x59cvm.jpg
It's about at the 27 second mark of the video.
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ATG
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M16/203?
GunSlinger OIF II
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i really wanna say thats some kind of kalashnikov but that shit is really grainy  i see a wood stock and a really long magazine, longer than m-16

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-05-21 17:35:07)

Kmar
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

i really wanna say thats some kind of kalashnikov but that shit is really grainy  i see a wood stock and a really long magazine, longer than m-16
I know that Lebanon gets most their military support/hardware from the US. I'm not sure exactly how it is distributed though.

This didn't help me out much.
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Kmarion wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

i really wanna say thats some kind of kalashnikov but that shit is really grainy  i see a wood stock and a really long magazine, longer than m-16
I know that Lebanon gets most their military support/hardware from the US. I'm not sure exactly how it is distributed though.
i saw some guys holding m16's as well.  i wouldnt be surprised if we sold em kla-klas either.  over 50 million have been produced, thats the number i heard last millenium.
Andoura
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I am lebanese and i have all my cousin, uncles etc.. out there and let me tell you that whats happening out there is not nice... Lebanon use to be a beautiful country now they destoyed everything... who? syriens and the war with hezbollah vs. israel fucked our country more and more....

Last edited by Andoura (2007-05-22 19:57:26)

GunSlinger OIF II
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i love lebanon, personally i think we should arm them to the teeth.  there surrounded by nations who would like to see it stay where there at.  its a real democracy in lebanon and the women are gorgeous
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Andoura wrote:

I am lebanese and i have all my cousin, uncles etc.. out there and let me tell you that waths happening out there is not nice... Lebanese use to be a beautiful country now they destoyed everything... who? syriens and the was hezbollah vs. israel fucked our country more and more....
Incoherent, please try again.
GunSlinger OIF II
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ATG wrote:

Andoura wrote:

I am lebanese and i have all my cousin, uncles etc.. out there and let me tell you that waths happening out there is not nice... Lebanese use to be a beautiful country now they destoyed everything... who? syriens and the was hezbollah vs. israel fucked our country more and more....
Incoherent, please try again.
syria is happy to see lebanon turn to shit
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More


Some dangerous shit.
Tell me that doesn't look like Karkand .
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GunSlinger OIF II
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I happen to think syria is behind a lot of the bad shit in lebanon. true, the syrian gov't is secular to a T but war makes strange bed fellows and everybody over there hates israel
GunSlinger OIF II
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fuck man, why the fuck does lebanon have to put up with this shit...we need no more battlefields in lebanon.
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フィト! フィト! 
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lavadisk wrote:

フィト! フィト! 
yup

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