Anti-war protester In America's Army games ...

2007-05-23 18:09:56

#1

pj666: Member; +16|6812|Sydney, Australia

Check this out

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/cannon … tml?page=2

The guy plays America's Army, drops his gun, lets himself get killed, then types in the names of soldiers killed in Iraq as a protest in America's Army, a game designed to attract recruits.

He says it's art. I see where he's soming from, but gimme a break. It ain't art. "I don't know what art is, but I know what it's not".

In BF2 they'd just revive him and kill him, again and again ......

EDIT for typo

Last edited by pj666 (2007-05-23 18:10:32)

2007-05-23 18:14:15

#2

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7090

i fucking hate protesters. they attack the recruiting stations and soldiers when they need to go to the front door of their elected representatives. the military is not the one that started this war. I have more respect for that haji that stands up and fights and gets killed than these worthless piles of human flesh. at least hes got enough conviction for what he stands for that hes willing to perform the proper steps to get his point across. attacking the military as a protester just really pisses off soldiers. CITIZEN SOLDIERS GOD DAMN IT. VOLUNTEERS. their fellow man and woman.

2007-05-23 18:14:56

#3

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6976|Global Command

Sounds like something Spawn would do.

2007-05-23 18:17:57

#4

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7090

the same assholes that were protesting the recruiting station in front of my school are going to hold an iraq war memorial tomorrow with mock gravemarkers with the names of my fallen brothers and sisters. they have no fucking right.....yes they do. freedom of speech, but you get my drift.

2007-05-23 18:17:58

#5

RedTwizzler: I do it for the lulz.; +124|6984|Chicago

Kind of a dick move, but it's a creative way to get noticed.

2007-05-23 18:28:00

#6

David.P: Banned; +649|6721

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i fucking hate protesters. they attack the recruiting stations and soldiers when they need to go to the front door of their elected representatives. the military is not the one that started this war. I have more respect for that haji that stands up and fights and gets killed than these worthless piles of human flesh. at least hes got enough conviction for what he stands for that hes willing to perform the proper steps to get his point across. attacking the military as a protester just really pisses off soldiers. CITIZEN SOLDIERS GOD DAMN IT. VOLUNTEERS. their fellow man and woman.

Fuck them too! I was on e15st and 1st ave today and there was a protest to stop some tenemants from being shut down, They blocked the whole street i was late by 5 minutes for my doctors appointment, And to top it all off there was a firetruck coming through which they almost did'nt let pass.(But the good part was when i flipped off the news camera abc 7)

Last edited by David.Podedworny (2007-05-23 18:28:30)

2007-05-23 18:30:22

#7

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,073|7218|PNW

pj666 wrote:
Check this out

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/cannon … tml?page=2

The guy plays America's Army, drops his gun, lets himself get killed, then types in the names of soldiers killed in Iraq as a protest in America's Army, a game designed to attract recruits.

He says it's art. I see where he's soming from, but gimme a break. It ain't art. "I don't know what art is, but I know what it's not".

In BF2 they'd just revive him and kill him, again and again ......

EDIT for typo

Playing a video game is art?

2007-05-23 19:11:07

#8

HunterOfSkulls: Rated EC-10; +246|6726

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i fucking hate protesters. they attack the recruiting stations and soldiers when they need to go to the front door of their elected representatives. the military is not the one that started this war. I have more respect for that haji that stands up and fights and gets killed than these worthless piles of human flesh. at least hes got enough conviction for what he stands for that hes willing to perform the proper steps to get his point across. attacking the military as a protester just really pisses off soldiers. CITIZEN SOLDIERS GOD DAMN IT. VOLUNTEERS. their fellow man and woman.

Recruiting stations yes, soldiers no. The vast majority of the anti-recruitment folks are not anti-soldier, they're against the vultures that are making bank off signups by lying to prospective recruits. "No, you won't get sent to Iraq.", "Iraq's dangerous? Nonsense, safe as churches, you're in more danger here!", that kind of stuff. Hell, a lot of the people monkeywrenching recruitment are ex-soldiers themselves who don't want some poor sap making the same mistake they did.

2007-05-23 19:16:35

#9

HunterOfSkulls: Rated EC-10; +246|6726

David.Podedworny wrote:
Fuck them too! I was on e15st and 1st ave today and there was a protest to stop some tenemants from being shut down, They blocked the whole street i was late by 5 minutes for my doctors appointment,

Oh the horror! When will your miserable oppression at the hands of these monsters cease! What kind of country do we live in when rogues and criminals can make a man five minutes late for a doctor's appointment! Someone must restore order before the very nation is rent asunder by this madness!

David.Podedworny wrote:
And to top it all off there was a firetruck coming through which they almost did'nt let pass.

Translation: a firetruck showed up and they let it pass but I'm going to make it sound like teh eeeevil protestors were actually thinking about stopping an emergency vehicle.

David.Podedworny wrote:
(But the good part was when i flipped off the news camera abc 7)

Dammit, now you're sounding like one of those protesting ruffians, engaging in such rude public behavior. You should be ashamed of yourself, next you'll be burning soldiers in effigy just like those pinko commie hippie dope smoking terrorist lovers.

2007-05-23 19:22:04

#10

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7213|Cambridge (UK)

I say it is art.

And I've considered doing it in bf2 myself.

Protest and freedom of expression are rights.

Even in a game.

2007-05-23 19:27:54

#11

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|7131|United States of America

Dude, there are fuckers in that game who do it anyway; they seem to join a server and then go off to work, prolonging the rounds for 10-15 minutes beyond necessary. That game is full of idlers and I doubt they are all protesting. Still, I hate this guy already because he's ruining the gameplay.

2007-05-23 19:28:25

#12

HunterOfSkulls: Rated EC-10; +246|6726

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I say it is art.

And I've considered doing it in bf2 myself.

Protest and freedom of expression are rights.

Even in a game.

I probably wouldn't do it myself in BF2, I can ruin my stats enough without it

Plus I try not to get political while I'm in the middle of a game unless someone gets dumb and starts saying racist shit or something similar. Then I usually spend the rest of the round performing unlicensed brain surgery on them with the .50

2007-05-23 19:37:32

#13

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6775

If anybody is curious how it looks, or what the guy is doing here are some screenshots from his website:

https://www.unr.edu/art/DELAPPE/Gaming/Dead_In_Iraq/Dead%20in%20Iraq%20jpegs%202/why-should-we-care.jpg

https://www.unr.edu/art/DELAPPE/Gaming/Dead_In_Iraq/Dead%20in%20Iraq%20jpegs%202/this-is-not-the-forum-2.jpg

So I guess this is all the guy does is just die and lay there dead and type names. You can see plenty of other people find it annoying...

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2007-05-23 19:42:55

#14

HunterOfSkulls: Rated EC-10; +246|6726

Well, it's original, but not exactly what I'd call effective at all. I definitley don't put him in the same league with people who put themselves in harm's way to protest.

2007-05-23 19:49:06

#15

BeerzGod: Hooray Beer!; +94|7017|United States

What a complete dumbass. I'm not against people who protest war.. I mean hell, war is a terrible thing and something worth protesting in my opinion. What I am against are these low-life, bottom of the barrel American trash who protest the war by attacking the soldiers. Fucking hell, what would make these people happy? Would it take everyone in the armed forces to side with their opinions, lay down their arms, and wait for the first invasion from the nearest hostile nation towards us? I just don't understand how these people can't comprehend what they wouldn't have if hundreds of thousands of people hadn't decided to take an oath to lay down their life for strangers. Anyways....

I say server admins should start posting the guys guid for mass banning. A medium used solely for the sake of fun, and as a brief escape from the real world doesn't need this kind of trash polluting it. If I want to listen to war protestors I can go watch the idiots standing in the rain on the side of the road yelling at traffic with their signs. I don't need that shit in an fps game.

2007-05-23 19:52:03

#16

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7213|Cambridge (UK)

HunterOfSkulls wrote:
Well, it's original, but not exactly what I'd call effective at all.

No, not at all effective. Given how we're not discussing it here. And how it hasn't been reported in Edge magazine nor anywhere else.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-05-23 20:06:13)

2007-05-23 19:53:06

#17

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7213|Cambridge (UK)

BeerzGod wrote:
What I am against are these low-life, bottom of the barrel American trash who protest the war by attacking the soldiers.

In what way is he attacking the soldiers?

2007-05-23 20:04:52

#18

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6984|Long Island, New York

I wonder if this guy thinks people give a shit. Or that he's convincing people.

2007-05-23 20:05:03

#19

evilcartman99: The Octagon; +18|6859|da ville, va

No offense to him but he is a retard. That is not going to get any point across. It's only going to make the stoners that play it laugh their asses off. He needs to learn how to protest a war.

2007-05-23 20:14:48

#20

Major_Spittle: Banned; +276|7102|United States of America

pj666 wrote:
Check this out

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/cannon … tml?page=2

The guy plays America's Army, drops his gun, lets himself get killed, then types in the names of soldiers killed in Iraq as a protest in America's Army, a game designed to attract recruits.

He says it's art. I see where he's soming from, but gimme a break. It ain't art. "I don't know what art is, but I know what it's not".

In BF2 they'd just revive him and kill him, again and again ......

EDIT for typo

He is probably just a Noob and that is his cover for being a shitty player. I will have to remember to do that next time I get pwn'd at BF2.

2007-05-23 20:33:30

#21

13rin: Member; +977|6926

pj666 wrote:
Check this out

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/cannon … tml?page=2

The guy plays America's Army, drops his gun, lets himself get killed, then types in the names of soldiers killed in Iraq as a protest in America's Army, a game designed to attract recruits.

He says it's art. I see where he's soming from, but gimme a break. It ain't art. "I don't know what art is, but I know what it's not".

In BF2 they'd just revive him and kill him, again and again ......

EDIT for typo

He should do that in real life...

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2007-05-23 21:02:01

#22

HunterOfSkulls: Rated EC-10; +246|6726

DBBrinson1 wrote:
He should do that in real life...

This post inspires me to laughter, but not in the way you probably intended.

2007-05-23 21:03:45

#23

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6893|Chicago, IL

He should do it in BF2, Ill add him to my victims list.

2007-05-23 21:06:23

#24

Fredrik: i hate you all; +201|7095|Norway

Haha!

2007-05-23 21:30:04

#25

pj666: Member; +16|6812|Sydney, Australia

I don't think he's attacking soldiers. He's criticising soldiers being sent to Iraq, and I am guessing using AA as a recruiting tool.

But to call it art, and a protest, is pushing it. He's just pissing people off who are going to flame him anyway.

The inane ways in which people use the Internet to give themselves a "voice". But he only gets real exposure through old school media.

He be better off getting in a flame war with ATG and usmarine2005. He'd get more exposure and it would be more amusing for the rest of us.

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