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Don't say shit your parents told you.
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he liked to get his duck sick
who doesn't?
About the whole blowjob thing. Did someone like, just walk in and see him getting The Job or was it more boring than that. I was a young'un during that whole debacle so i never really understood it.
more boring
You can word your titles to be more obvious next time.
off topic.usmarine2005 wrote:
You can word your titles to be more obvious next time.
Anything else to add?
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
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Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?Kmarion wrote:
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?Kmarion wrote:
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Kmarion = King of PC (political correctness)Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?Kmarion wrote:
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
Hey, I watch where I step..lolMason4Assassin444 wrote:
Kmarion = King of PC (political correctness)Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
True but Bush was still the one who five months before 9/11 said tracking down terrorists and their plots was likeKmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?Kmarion wrote:
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
"swatting flies".
He married Hillary. Nuff said.
No.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
off topic.usmarine2005 wrote:
You can word your titles to be more obvious next time.
Anything else to add?
It's not that he got his dick sucked (He gets +1 for that) it's that he lied to everyone in the country about it that pisses people off. He purgered himself in front of congress and got away with it. Many politicians have been hung out to dry for less.
Not to mention his push for the Federal AW ban which is what I really dislike the man for.
Oh and I can't forget Waco, boy did his administration fuck that up.
Actually other than those three things (and his Intelligence cuts, but that was just a sign of the times, the Soviet union was gone, why did we need such a large military and intelligence service anymore?) I think he wasn't really that bad. He didn't really do much of anything as a president, he just kind of sat back and enjoyed the ride (take that any way you want).
Not to mention his push for the Federal AW ban which is what I really dislike the man for.
Oh and I can't forget Waco, boy did his administration fuck that up.
Actually other than those three things (and his Intelligence cuts, but that was just a sign of the times, the Soviet union was gone, why did we need such a large military and intelligence service anymore?) I think he wasn't really that bad. He didn't really do much of anything as a president, he just kind of sat back and enjoyed the ride (take that any way you want).
As bad as some of Bush's speech deliveries are, I don't think we'll ever have another president that was so absolutely stumped about the meaning of the word "is" as Bubba.
I wish he had just said "it's none of your fucking business whether I get sucked off or not" or something, it would have made it so much better for him... >.>ts-pulsar wrote:
It's not that he got his dick sucked (He gets +1 for that) it's that he lied to everyone in the country about it that pisses people off. He purgered himself in front of congress and got away with it. Many politicians have been hung out to dry for less.
Not to mention his push for the Federal AW ban which is what I really dislike the man for.
Oh and I can't forget Waco, boy did his administration fuck that up.
Actually other than those three things (and his Intelligence cuts, but that was just a sign of the times, the Soviet union was gone, why did we need such a large military and intelligence service anymore?) I think he wasn't really that bad. He didn't really do much of anything as a president, he just kind of sat back and enjoyed the ride (take that any way you want).
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Aye. By pulling TFR out of Somalia, he showed our enemies that if you kill a few of our soldiers, we'll run away and never come back. Definately not handled as well as the PR could have been. We never even got Aidid after that.Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?Kmarion wrote:
Damn.. only the male..lol
He cut intelligence spending a bit too much. He was of course continuing where Bush Sr left off, but I think he went to far. Ever since the end of the cold war those kinds of programs were getting slashed. I think the intelligence programs should have been reassessed and relocated to other areas during the 90's *cough middle east*. Maybe we could have seen resentment building and threats coming. Of course I am playing Monday morning quarterback now.
Pulling out of Somalia cannot be considered a bad move. What would've been achieved by staying there? More lost American lives and more cost to the American taxpayer, that's about it. Sounds like a great plan.DesertFox- wrote:
Aye. By pulling TFR out of Somalia, he showed our enemies that if you kill a few of our soldiers, we'll run away and never come back. Definately not handled as well as the PR could have been. We never even got Aidid after that.Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Are you implying Clinton set the table for 9-11?
He also did nothing intelligence wise that was not backed by Republicans. Bush continued with intelligence cuts, the cuts his father initiated. If anything, post cold war the US needed more intelligence and less military might, surely that would've been a better allocation of resources, but these things are easy to say with hindsight.
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According to Black Hawk Down (the book, not the movie), the whole issue was his fault anyway for sending people in like that.Bertster7 wrote:
Pulling out of Somalia cannot be considered a bad move. What would've been achieved by staying there? More lost American lives and more cost to the American taxpayer, that's about it. Sounds like a great plan.DesertFox- wrote:
Aye. By pulling TFR out of Somalia, he showed our enemies that if you kill a few of our soldiers, we'll run away and never come back. Definately not handled as well as the PR could have been. We never even got Aidid after that.Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.
Sending people in the first place was a stupid idea, certainly. Don't send troops to Africa. It'll all go horribly wrong.Skorpy-chan wrote:
According to Black Hawk Down (the book, not the movie), the whole issue was his fault anyway for sending people in like that.Bertster7 wrote:
Pulling out of Somalia cannot be considered a bad move. What would've been achieved by staying there? More lost American lives and more cost to the American taxpayer, that's about it. Sounds like a great plan.DesertFox- wrote:
Aye. By pulling TFR out of Somalia, he showed our enemies that if you kill a few of our soldiers, we'll run away and never come back. Definately not handled as well as the PR could have been. We never even got Aidid after that.
But pulling them out quickly was a good thing.
I like him. He seems nice. He visited my city of Bergen two days ago. Played some golf and took a walk in the park. Yesterday he ate shrimps at the docks with a known norwegian billionaire. Surrounded by 23,16 bodyguards all the time of course. I have nothing against him.
Indeed. Somalia was a humanitarian relief effort (millions were starving to death). US troops were there to take the lead in action under a UN security proposal. It wasn't about going after Aidid when we went in.Bertster7 wrote:
Pulling out of Somalia cannot be considered a bad move. What would've been achieved by staying there? More lost American lives and more cost to the American taxpayer, that's about it. Sounds like a great plan.DesertFox- wrote:
Aye. By pulling TFR out of Somalia, he showed our enemies that if you kill a few of our soldiers, we'll run away and never come back. Definately not handled as well as the PR could have been. We never even got Aidid after that.Kmarion wrote:
I am saying that he helped create a situation that restricted the capability of our foreign intelligence agencies. The results of what might have been are purely speculative and no one can say for certainty.
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Of course, but the humanitarian effort was facing the danger of the clans and their warlords. The whole 24 Pakistani soldier incident is what began the hunt for Aidid in that country. However, the feeling that he left when pulling out without finishing what they came to do was a bad message of the commitment of the military and thus, the country to anything.
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