Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6980
OK, I wanna start off by saying that youre in for a read. So if you decide to comment on this thread, please read my entire post. Also, you should know that I'm not an idiot when it comes to women. I'm 22, Ive had 2 really serious relationships and 1 not too serious one, and i've been with several women otherwise. I usually know what to do with any given situation, but I'm completely goddamn lost right now, which is why im reaching out to ppl here of all places.

Anyways, to the story...

So this is a story about my second serious GF. We started dating during her senior year in high school, while I was a sophomore in college. We were very much in love and were really happy together and all that happy bullshit. This went on until next year when she went away to college. Now our schools were 90 miles apart, about a 90 minute drive, and we cared abotu eachother too much to do the whole "break up for college" thing. So we stuck it out. I saw her on the weekends. Either I'd visit her or she'd visit me. And this worked for a while. We had some problems of course, but what relationship doesnt. But there was never anything too serious to get  over and move on.

Anyways, at almost the very end of her freshman year of college, things got bad. She cheated on me with some guy (Guy1), and this caused us to break up naturally. We had been dating 18 months. Worse yet, after we broke up, she started dating him. So basically, the first few months of my summer were really shitty. I was very depressed about the whole thing, and had very little contact with her throughout the summer.

So time passed, and things got a little better for me. I thought I had started to move on, you know. Eventually, we started talking again, online, or whatnaught. We saw eachother a few times and it was hard, as I wasnt over her and still had feelings for her. During the summer, she satrted getting into heavy drugs, which I blamed on her new friends and Guy1, since she had been so adamantly opposed to them before. Guy1 turned out to be a scumbag, and hurt her physically on at least one occassion and was very manipulative.

At some point near the beginning of the next school year, there was talk of getting back together, which was still very iffy, cuz I obviously couldnt trust her and the distance was still there. After about a month into the new year, she started dating another guy (Guy2). so I basically said fuck it to any talk of working it out and we didnt talk for a month or longer, and when we did afterwards, it was breif and not very personal. At this point, it had been probably 6 months since we had broken up.

Well, things went on like that for a while, basically up until a month ago. They also broke up, and he turned out to be more of a scumbag than Guy1. Let me say here that this is not my judgement of either guy, but her own.

We did see eachother a few times during this whole period during guy1 and guy2, and it was hard for me most of the time. Every time I saw her, she seemed to be more irritable, less happy, and generally just negative, not the happy girl I used to know her as. On top of all this, she had told me of two things she did durign dating the two guys which I consider, for lack of a better word, slutty. Both of these things happened while she was with one of her new girlfriends who is a total nutcase slut psycho. This again led me to believe that it was her new friends' influence who were to blame her behavior on, and also made me think of how many things she did like that which she ISNT telling me about.

Long story short, up until this point, My opinion of her was dropping drastically with almost every visit and conversation we had, and this was upsetting me a lot. At this point, I had told her that I had forgiven her for her cheating on me and that I just wanted her to lead a better life and be happy. I blamed her friends for her actions and told her to leave her school all the time to get otu of that environment. I really cared about her still, as I considered her a "friend in need" or my lost girl who needed to be rescued.

Well, I saw her this past weekend, and stayed with her for several nights. And from this experience, I draw my confusion and frustration. I've come to several conclusions.

1) I still have strong feelings for her.
2) One part of me wants her back, and the other part wants to smack me for even thinkin that cuz how can I trust her?
3) Her cheating on me still obviously upsets me, so I have clearly not forgiven/accepted the incident.
4) She is incredibly attarctive, and I am very physically attracted to her, and its frustrating that nothing can happen between us at this point.

We want to be something, we want to be at least friends, thats decided between us. But it's so hard for me because part of me wants more than that, and another part of me is still in a rut about everything shes done. I think shes at a point where she is trying to turn her life around. She claims that she knows what she did was wrong, and that I was her best boyfriend and that she misses me, but is also lost as to how we both can move past all of this in homes of someday being more, or at least friends.

So ppl, if you have read this far, I applaude you. I have left out many details cuz if I wrote about everythign in full detail it would be 50 pages. So please lend me your opinion on what I/we can do to move past what has happened, and anything else you may deem necessary to say. Please ask me for details if you need them to suggest something, and again, mature posts only.

Cheers
Andoura
Got loooollllll ?
+853|7085|Montreal, Qc, Canada
Damn.... This is not an easy one, 1st what are you talking about when you say this :

''On top of all this, she had told me of two things she did during dating the two guys which I consider, for lack of a better word, slutty. Both of these things happened ...''

Then i fell you on this one, i had a similar experience few months ago, of course it wasn't like you because it was not serious as your relationship was, but the girl i use to love was kinda cheating on me and all this bullshit, I forgot this and we continued for a few weeks and then I decided to stop talking to her, i mean at 100%, i deleted everything, phone # , e-mail, pics, txt mess...

Part of me was telling me : '' Man ur an idiot, you love this girl and you know it! the fuck ur doing'' and the other was like '' She's a slut, if she cheated once , she can do it again and again ''... so as i stop talking to her, i missed her, more and more, my heart hurt, and i want her back, but i know I CANT... 

Just to tell you that girls are fkin complicated, once they start cheating and all this bullshit i think its over, you cant give excuses for that, But when you love someone a lot and you don't want let him/her go, its hard, very hard... I understand you at 100% but try not to come back with her, it will always be like that, and you will always know that she cheated on you and this will hurt you, you seems to be a good person so you will probably find another girl...

And the most important always remember:

'' The best way to forget a girl is with another one ''

Goodluck man !

Last edited by Andoura (2007-05-27 19:44:28)

Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6902|The edge of sanity
Dude, no. JUST FUCKING NO. Dont date cheaters they cant be trusted AT ALL. get yourself a better woman than this one.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7197|Chicago.
Physical attractions aside, I doubt she can offer you anything else.

There are better women out there for you.

In all seriousness, it may be time to move on to someone else.
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7093|Peoria
Ok...

Look, I've seen 40, yes 40, long distance relationships at colleges break-up after a year to 2 years. It's soon to be 41 if I'm reading the signs right. I've seen people at 2 different schools 40 minutes away cheat on each other.

Your never ever going to really be happy with her. It sucks, I know. Trust me.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7069|Little Bentcock
Well, first if you feel comfortable, just talk. No reason to not talk to each other is there? So why not just chat whether its over the net or you meet up at some place. You don't need to go deep into a relationship straight away, let her know (if you are comfortable with it) that she can date other people (as it is long distance) and it won't effect your relationship together, and if the guy turns out to be a scumbag you are there for her if she needs a shoulder to cry on. The problem with alot of guys (and from the sounds, not you) is that they try to get into the relationship too quickly, this is the stage you are at. You may or may not have picked up on it, but you are. Spend time strengthining the relationship to where you once had it, instead of concentrating on getting with her. This really does help. Once it is at that stage once again, and you feel asthough you can trust her (MAJOR part) and you both want it, and think it can work, try dating again, but don't get to emotionaly tangled with it until you are both out of college and physically wit each other.

Hope I could of been of some help, had to sort of rush it as not much time at the moment. Goodluck!

Last edited by Adams_BJ (2007-05-27 19:36:02)

coke
Aye up duck!
+440|7156|England. Stoke

BigmacK wrote:

Physical attractions aside, I doubt she can offer you anything else.

There are better women out there for you.

In all seriousness, it may be time to move on to someone else.
Agreed...
Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6980

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Dude, no. JUST FUCKING NO. Dont date cheaters they cant be trusted AT ALL. get yourself a better woman than this one.
I know where you're coming from. I have long maintained that mentality. But I'm sure everyone here has made a mistake in their life that they regret. Whether that makes them a horrible person or not is not the issue. The issue here is that she and I both want to be at least friends and that's impossible until I can get past what she did. So how can I do this? It's been a year, so obv time isnt gonna solve this one...
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6841|The Gem Saloon
cheaters, no.
relationships are built on trust. not only will it destroy the relationship, it will fuck up your self worth for a long time....those doubts you have now only get worse.
Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6980

Adams_BJ wrote:

Well, first if you feel comfortable, just talk. No reason to not talk to each other is there? So why not just chat whether its over the net or you meet up at some place. You don't need to go deep into a relationship straight away, let her know (if you are comfortable with it) that she can date other people (as it is long distance) and it won't effect your relationship together, and if the guy turns out to be a scumbag you are there for her if she needs a shoulder to cry on. The problem with alot of guys (and from the sounds, not you) is that they try to get into the relationship too quickly, this is the stage you are at. You may or may not have picked up on it, but you are. Spend time strengthining the relationship to where you once had it, instead of concentrating on getting with her. This really does help. Once it is at that stage once again, and you feel asthough you can trust her (MAJOR part) and you both want it, and think it can work, try dating again, but don't get to emotionaly tangled with it until you are both out of college and physically wit each other.

Hope I could of been of some help, had to sort of rush it as not much time at the moment. Goodluck!
Thanks for the response. I am NTO trying to rush into another relationship at all. At this point, we just want to make it as friends. We both realize that we need to overcome some hurdles for this. Thanks for the reply, though, I appreciate it. +1 for you
elstonieo
Oil 4 Euros not $$$
+20|6784|EsSeX
don't blame the friends or yourself it was her choice to do whatever she did

my advise is don't be anything more than friends (distant friends at that) otherwise your going to keep getting hurt.

whatever anyone says here your going to do what you want in the end.



although the above video mite seem a joke its all so true in most case's
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7276|Denver colorado
You also helped me adams_BJ. The whole:

"Spend time strengthening the relationship to where you once had it, instead of concentrating on getting with her."

Part is good advice that I can use.

+1
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6902|The edge of sanity

Eugefunk84 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Dude, no. JUST FUCKING NO. Dont date cheaters they cant be trusted AT ALL. get yourself a better woman than this one.
I know where you're coming from. I have long maintained that mentality. But I'm sure everyone here has made a mistake in their life that they regret. Whether that makes them a horrible person or not is not the issue. The issue here is that she and I both want to be at least friends and that's impossible until I can get past what she did. So how can I do this? It's been a year, so obv time isnt gonna solve this one...
Meh i just no if my gf cheated on me (she wont though cause half the time shes too shy to even talk to me), i would leave her in a heartbeat. I dont date cheaters period.
cospengle
Member
+140|6933|Armidale, NSW, Australia
1) You need to stay away from her until you're in a better frame of mind to make a decision. Leave it a year or two and if you meet up again, you might decide to give it another try, but at the moment you don't trust her (and I don't blame you) and you can't have a good relationship if there's no trust.

2) Get checked for VD.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6833
Im in the same situation, except she doesn't tell me I was her best boyfriend, she just tells me "it was fun while it lasted". She cheated on me 1 year 5 months into relationship with a guy she knew I hated(btw it was a blow job, her specialty it seems), then she went out with him, now she broke up with him because the dick head cheated on her twice. Long story short, shes now doing weed, something she swore to me she would never do again. I still want to be with her, Im depressed most of the time, but I cant trust her, she tells me stuff that..... I just dont know, this isnt the real her, shes trying to act, trying to become as she called herself once "the hardcore bitch". Shes a person that isnt happy with herself, so shes trying to become more popular, having the attention is what seems to make her happy, she acts like shes happy, but when you look in the eyes, or how she holds her body, you can tell, shes just really down, even a little suicidel. I havent seen her happy in months, since when we broke up is the last time I can ever remember seeing a real smile on her face. A real laugh. Now everything is fake. I want to help her, I told her Im worried, she just gets mad at me though, thats how she goes through life, getting pissed at everything, after a while she knows shes wrong, she hates that shes wrong, but she just cant say "sorry", she feels it, but she cant say it, thats what everyone including her best friends and family tell me. OK, done with the stupid rant.


I know what your feeling man, I wish you luck on getting over her or just her gaining your trust back. I know it sucks, but eventually, your gonna be fine, it will be fine, maybe with her, maybe with a new girl. The hard part is just getting through it. At least thats what I tell myself.
Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6980
thansk for the input guys. Allow me to stress a point though I am not readt for a relationship with her, even though it is ultimately what I might want. Right now, I'm just trying to figure out how to forgive her and what I/we can do to strengthen whats left of our relationship.
BVC
Member
+325|7142
A difficult situation indeed.  Being cheated on sucks the fat one.  A gf of 4 & 1/2 years broke it off with me a few years back, I found out a few months later what I'd suspected but couldn't prove; she'd been banging someone else for 6 months before breaking up with me.

Me, I wouldn't go back.  Whether you end up back with her is up to you and you alone...but I will say, don't even consider it until shes gotten rid of the bad elements in her life.  And definitely not until shes proven she can be trusted.

That aside, whether you take her back or not, don't be afraid to help her sort her shit out.

Last edited by Pubic (2007-05-27 20:11:03)

T.Pike
99 Problems . . .
+187|6729|Pennsyltucky

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

She got into "heavy drugs" too?   She still doing them?

You want to be "friends" fine, but this chick is going to cause you nothing but heartache.

I'd tell her you just can't take the negative things she keeps doing to herself.  Give her a few more years to mature and then maybe you can have a friendship, but for now ..... NO.
Tdog2007
Giggity Giggity
+25|7159|US

coke wrote:

BigmacK wrote:

Physical attractions aside, I doubt she can offer you anything else.

There are better women out there for you.

In all seriousness, it may be time to move on to someone else.
Agreed...
I second. But if for some reason you can't move on, then I suggest moving to where she's going to college so that you can be closer and help her out better.

Or do it the other way around & have her move back if there's another college in the area. This way would be better because she would be away from the influence.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6907|UK
I would definitely agree with what most people said some people never change and that's just the truth. I understand you care alot about her you really need to distance yourself from her. If she doesn't take your advice theres nothing you can do my friend. From all that I have read I would say delete her out of your life pictures, emails and phone numbers.

Once you've been burned by her you will never trust her again no matter what she says or does. There really are plenty of beautiful and intelligent women in the world I'm sure you will run into one. It will be hard at first getting over your heart ache just keep your head up keep yourself busy. Join the gym it will make you feel more confident and more likely to chat up that cute girl at work or college.

Long distance relationships are really unworkable they are more hassle than they are worth. Some things can't be sorted out with email, text messages or phone calls they need to be face to face. It seems that your opinion of her has dropped leaving only the physical attraction which will soon deteriorate from hardened drug use. Seems like she doesn't appreciate you (I dunno why girls always go with the bad guys) find someone else who appreciates you.

As gay as it sounds if your only sticking it out for her looks then don't bother. Erm thats about all the advice I can give you really seems like your just her back-up guy (Don't take that the wrong way) just forget her Nada move on and be happy. Once you go into such a stressful relationship it will affect the future ones to come. Things such as insecurity and other stuff.
13rin
Member
+977|6926
Meh.. I read until the cheated part.  She's gone.  It'll never be the same.  There will always be trust issues.  My advice?  Don't call her.  I guarantee that she will call within 3-6 months.  You can then get back together w/ her or just bang her one last time.  Don't do it though.  Move on.  Besides, she's young and has yet to go through her wild phase.  You don't want to be the boyfriend there.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Lufbery
Member
+2|6886|Dallas, TX, USA
The way I see it, if she felt fine hurting you once, she'd be fine doing it again. Sorry, bro, but go find someone else.
DrJAV
Member
+1|7015
I'll try and keep it simple - and hopefully it helps:

It's all about trust - like ammo for a gun - needs it to work.

Physical attraction fades in time - don't jump on the sinking ship where all you have is looks that makes you like her

I got out of a tough relationship last year (details aren't needed) but I'll tell you what: There are many times I thought "Maybe I should go back - maybe it needs a second try" because it's real tough when there was still these feelings there - and you feel completely unsure of what to do.

My advice would be to gain some perspective like someone else suggested - it's real hard to make a decision when you're too close to the situation.

At the end of the day - you gotta decide what to do, because it's you - and not any of us - that has to live with it.




Last gem of wisdom/advice - something that my father told me - "If you were in the same situation, would you have done the same thing?"

So, if you had the opportunity would you have cheated? And if no - why should you expect less than that for yourself? Don't you deserve more?
ragingtomato
Member
+5|6628
i say just move on, millions of fish in the sea... but once a cheater, pretty much for the most part she will always be a cheater (i could be wrong)... but if she cheated you and you want her back, you're just cheating yourself
Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6791|New York
There will always be that attraction since you obviously had strong feeling for this girl, however she cheated on you and just from reading your heartfelt post you're better than that.

You forgave her, you supported her, but she needs to learn her own lessons and you need to find someone worthy of your time.

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