Reciprocity
Member
+721|7025|the dank(super) side of Oregon
I don't care how you feel about the Mexican immigration policy this is just obnoxious.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275993,00.html

Complaining about our immigration policy?  who the hell do these people think they are?  They should be grateful that we don't justifiably shoot them as they scurry across our border.  They have absolutely no place to criticize our already lax policies.  just shows their basic ingrate nature.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7005
Where does it say anything about your immigration policy?
iamangry
Member
+59|7089|The United States of America
Well shit, if they don't think our women are hot, they should stay there!  More for me!
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7099

Yeah, them booing Ms. USA really pissed me off. I especially hate the immigrants who bash the U.S., yet they'll do anything to get in here. All those Mexicans in Mexico City were probably booing her because they tried hopping the border and got caught. Either that or their relatives here aren't sending them enough money. Mexico should be thankful for us, we're the biggest part of their economy, and if it weren't for the millions of illegals sending money back to their country, they'd be in much worse condition.
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|7007|British Columbia, Canada
Isn't the like 2nd highest income in Mexico from Illegals sending money back to their country.

Start paying the Illegals less money, then see what happens.


I mean, if the US Citizens  who hire illegals agree to start paying them less and less money, they aren't going to want to come into the US anymore since they won't get very much money.

And I mean, what can they do about it if you start paying them less money.. Join a Union, whine about it to the US government, good luck.
mtb0minime
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+2,418|7099

LT.Victim wrote:

Isn't the like 2nd highest income in Mexico from Illegals sending money back to their country.

Start paying the Illegals less money, then see what happens.


I mean, if the US Citizens  who hire illegals agree to start paying them less and less money, they aren't going to want to come into the US anymore since they won't get very much money.

And I mean, what can they do about it if you start paying them less money.. Join a Union, whine about it to the US government, good luck.
When I get my own house, I'm going to hire illegals to be my gardeners. Except instead of being like my parents and getting suckered into their slowly rising fees, I'll bargain with them and lower the bill until we agree on a price. And then if they try to raise the prices I'll just call immigration services >:-D muahahahaha!

It's evil but it works. My friend used to work at a Mexican fast food restaurant with me and he made it up to manager pretty quickly to get more money and hours. He demanded raises many times because he was working his ass off but they didn't give it to him. So what he did was quit and call immigration services on the place. Within a week the place was down from ~25 employees to 9! It was awesome! Now if only immigration services were that diligent with all places instead of looking the other way. Plus I was happy that the hell hole of a restaurant was really going under and was nearly put out of business.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6994|CH/BR - in UK

Wow, fox news - it's like arguing for a Christian point with a link along the lines of "www.godisgreat.com".
Didn't even - and will not bother - clicking the link.

-konfusion
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6724
ROFL so now mind-reading qualifies as news.

"We believe it wasn't Rachel being booed but the USA and some of our policies as a country," pageant spokeswoman Lark-Marie Anton told FOXNews.com.
I guess Ms. Anton looked into the dark hearts of the inherently ingrate and lawbreaking Mexican people and divined their true feelings.

At least now I don't have to wonder how some 18-year-old waste of skin redneck manages to get a group of 20-30 people to attack two Mexican guys in Molalla, OR. All some people are looking for is an excuse.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7160
they have a right to be angry... and they should stay in Mexico to protest their unhappiness...
The US is so evil... lol... I would be so proud to live in a shithole like mexihole...  They need to put up a fence to keep all the unhappy US citizens from flocking to mexihole... lmao
Love is the answer
HunterOfSkulls
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mtb0minime wrote:

When I get my own house, I'm going to hire illegals to be my gardeners. Except instead of being like my parents and getting suckered into their slowly rising fees, I'll bargain with them and lower the bill until we agree on a price. And then if they try to raise the prices I'll just call immigration services >:-D muahahahaha!
Good for you, that's the American dream after all; to be able to exploit people who have no recourse against you. "What? You want an honest day's wage for an honest day's work? Back to Mexico with you!". If there's any justice in this world, your own employer will pull the same shit on you somehow.

mtb0minime wrote:

It's evil but it works. My friend used to work at a Mexican fast food restaurant with me and he made it up to manager pretty quickly to get more money and hours. He demanded raises many times because he was working his ass off but they didn't give it to him. So what he did was quit and call immigration services on the place. Within a week the place was down from ~25 employees to 9! It was awesome! Now if only immigration services were that diligent with all places instead of looking the other way. Plus I was happy that the hell hole of a restaurant was really going under and was nearly put out of business.
Oh yeah, GJ, you have a problem with upper management, so you victimize the employees below you. Your friend is a dicksplat, and that's the nicest possible way I can put it. "I didn't get my pay raise! I know what to do, I'll call INS and get these people who didn't do shit to me arrested and sent back to Mexico.". That's some real genius there. Ooooh, they went from 25 employees to 9. Did that get him his raise? Did it do more than temporarily slow their business down while they found more low-wage slobs to employ? Somehow I doubt it really hurt the owners a whole lot; they were probably skimming off what they would have paid their employees had they not been immigrants they could bully. You know, much like what you brag about wanting to do.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7099

What is it about Mexicans? I don't understand them. They boo the US yet the want to live here. They protest in our streets and claim that despite doing illegal activities like hopping the border, they're not criminals who break the law.

I don't understand! Is it like some side effect of eating tacos and burritos? I love Mexican food, too, but I don't think I've experienced a massive loss of common sense like these people have...
HunterOfSkulls
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

they have a right to be angry... and they should stay in Mexico to protest their unhappiness...
The US is so evil... lol... I would be so proud to live in a shithole like mexihole...  They need to put up a fence to keep all the unhappy US citizens from flocking to mexihole... lmao
Why would anyone from the US flock to Mexico? We have the trade deals that are fucking their economy and their agriculture industry over, not the other way around.

Oh wait, nm, Mexicans come here because they're evil and they want to wreck our economy and sell drugs and spread diseases, not to try and make a living, my bad.
mtb0minime
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+2,418|7099

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

When I get my own house, I'm going to hire illegals to be my gardeners. Except instead of being like my parents and getting suckered into their slowly rising fees, I'll bargain with them and lower the bill until we agree on a price. And then if they try to raise the prices I'll just call immigration services >:-D muahahahaha!
Good for you, that's the American dream after all; to be able to exploit people who have no recourse against you. "What? You want an honest day's wage for an honest day's work? Back to Mexico with you!". If there's any justice in this world, your own employer will pull the same shit on you somehow.

mtb0minime wrote:

It's evil but it works. My friend used to work at a Mexican fast food restaurant with me and he made it up to manager pretty quickly to get more money and hours. He demanded raises many times because he was working his ass off but they didn't give it to him. So what he did was quit and call immigration services on the place. Within a week the place was down from ~25 employees to 9! It was awesome! Now if only immigration services were that diligent with all places instead of looking the other way. Plus I was happy that the hell hole of a restaurant was really going under and was nearly put out of business.
Oh yeah, GJ, you have a problem with upper management, so you victimize the employees below you. Your friend is a dicksplat, and that's the nicest possible way I can put it. "I didn't get my pay raise! I know what to do, I'll call INS and get these people who didn't do shit to me arrested and sent back to Mexico.". That's some real genius there. Ooooh, they went from 25 employees to 9. Did that get him his raise? Did it do more than temporarily slow their business down while they found more low-wage slobs to employ? Somehow I doubt it really hurt the owners a whole lot; they were probably skimming off what they would have paid their employees had they not been immigrants they could bully. You know, much like what you brag about wanting to do.
Don't worry there's sarcasm in there I did sympathize with the employees there and it was pretty fucked up what my friend did. I dislike illegals, but the ones who were working there worked hard and struggled to provide for their families.

Oh and for the gardening, I'm not gonna hire illegals either. I'll do it myself like I and my dad did when we had more time to be around.
HunterOfSkulls
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mtb0minime wrote:

Don't worry there's sarcasm in there I did sympathize with the employees there and it was pretty fucked up what my friend did. I dislike illegals, but the ones who were working there worked hard and struggled to provide for their families.

Oh and for the gardening, I'm not gonna hire illegals either. I'll do it myself like I and my dad did when we had more time to be around.
I am sorry if I didn't detect the sarcasm, especially if you do think it was fucked up what your friend did. I just have a bit of a hair trigger about this issue lately because the rhetoric just seems to get uglier and uglier with each passing day. Figures and "facts" are made up out of whole cloth, racist propaganda that should have been dead and buried decades ago has found new legs and I find a lot of it being repeated like it's the truth from on high by people who should just fucking well know better. Again, apologies if I jumped too soon.
mtb0minime
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+2,418|7099

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Don't worry there's sarcasm in there I did sympathize with the employees there and it was pretty fucked up what my friend did. I dislike illegals, but the ones who were working there worked hard and struggled to provide for their families.

Oh and for the gardening, I'm not gonna hire illegals either. I'll do it myself like I and my dad did when we had more time to be around.
I am sorry if I didn't detect the sarcasm, especially if you do think it was fucked up what your friend did. I just have a bit of a hair trigger about this issue lately because the rhetoric just seems to get uglier and uglier with each passing day. Figures and "facts" are made up out of whole cloth, racist propaganda that should have been dead and buried decades ago has found new legs and I find a lot of it being repeated like it's the truth from on high by people who should just fucking well know better. Again, apologies if I jumped too soon.
No no no, I completely understand That's the problem with the internet is there's no way to tell if someone is serious or joking or whatever.
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|7007|British Columbia, Canada

mtb0minime wrote:

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Don't worry there's sarcasm in there I did sympathize with the employees there and it was pretty fucked up what my friend did. I dislike illegals, but the ones who were working there worked hard and struggled to provide for their families.

Oh and for the gardening, I'm not gonna hire illegals either. I'll do it myself like I and my dad did when we had more time to be around.
I am sorry if I didn't detect the sarcasm, especially if you do think it was fucked up what your friend did. I just have a bit of a hair trigger about this issue lately because the rhetoric just seems to get uglier and uglier with each passing day. Figures and "facts" are made up out of whole cloth, racist propaganda that should have been dead and buried decades ago has found new legs and I find a lot of it being repeated like it's the truth from on high by people who should just fucking well know better. Again, apologies if I jumped too soon.
No no no, I completely understand That's the problem with the internet is there's no way to tell if someone is serious or joking or whatever.
I really don't see the problem with exploiting illegal mexicans.

I mean, if they want a honest pay and to be treated fairly, then they should come into the US legally.


I have no problem with Mexicans, it's the illegals that I don't like.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7099

For me it's just a personal moral issue. They aren't here legally and don't belong here, so I'm not going to give them what they want (jobs/money). But they get exploited enough anyway that there's nothing that can really be done.
Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd
Member
+169|7190|Mexico City
you are so pathetic and stupid. and you wonder why the world despises you.

Do you think that the people that goes to a Miss Universe event CARES about foreign policy?, you find there people from show business, and business men, mexican people that can travel the world without any problem.

Miss USA was booed because of some retarded speech she did days before, where she showed a lack of culture.

This doesn´t have to do with foreign policy, if we want to talk about that we know that it has to be done with your government, not the current miss usa bimbo.

Gosh, what a dorks u are...

Last edited by Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd (2007-05-30 21:35:37)

LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|7007|British Columbia, Canada

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

you are so pathetic and stupid. and you wonder why the world despises you.

Do you think that the people that goes to a Miss Universe event CARES about foreign policy?, you find there people from show business, and business men, mexican people that can travel the world without any problem.

Miss USA was booed because of some retarded speech she did days before, where she showed a lack of culture.

This doesn´t have to do with foreign policy, if we want to talk about that we know that it has to be done with your government, not the current miss usa bimbo.

Gosh, what a dorks u are...
What are your Views on The USA Border Policy?
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7099

LT.Victim wrote:

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

you are so pathetic and stupid. and you wonder why the world despises you.

Do you think that the people that goes to a Miss Universe event CARES about foreign policy?, you find there people from show business, and business men, mexican people that can travel the world without any problem.

Miss USA was booed because of some retarded speech she did days before, where she showed a lack of culture.

This doesn´t have to do with foreign policy, if we want to talk about that we know that it has to be done with your government, not the current miss usa bimbo.

Gosh, what a dorks u are...
What are your Views on The USA Border Policy?
As long as they pwn cuz tehy have all teh gold medals and badges lawlz!!1
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6993|San Diego, CA, USA
Could the people in the crowd have been booing because she slipped and fell in the evening gown competition, yet still got all 8's and was still in the top 5?


Also didn't the girl from Croatia have her country's flag on her costume?

Last edited by Harmor (2007-05-30 22:04:16)

HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6724

LT.Victim wrote:

I really don't see the problem with exploiting illegal mexicans.
Neither do the American businesses that employ them. You know, the ones giving jobs to illegal immigrants.

LT.Victim wrote:

I mean, if they want a honest pay and to be treated fairly, then they should come into the US legally.
If they came in legally, it would deprive American businesses of easily-bullied and exploitable workers and it would deprive nativist whiners of both a new scapegoat and a new group to use their recycled rhetoric against.

LT.Victim wrote:

I have no problem with Mexicans, it's the illegals that I don't like.
I'm sure the guy making the border crossing running a gauntlet of human traffickers, border patrols, wet-behind-the-ears National Guardsmen and fat guys with binoculars in lawn chairs to try and make some kind of living really gives a damn whether he's good in your eyes or not.

Look, in this situation, as with many in life, there are winners and losers. Our government wins with trade deals that force Mexico to accept US exports and the increased paranoia and xenophobia of US citizens towards Mexicans. Their government wins as the benificiaries of the trade deals they cut with the US and from the money that crosses back into Mexico from the US. American businesses and wealthy people win both by having hardworking employees that can be easily ditched back to Mexico if they get out of hand and by creating a divide between working-class people that keeps the focus off themselves as the problem. The rest of us, American and Mexican? We're the losers. In America, we lose jobs to companies who long for the good old days when employees didn't backtalk them about silly things like health insurance and safe working conditions. In Mexico, they lose jobs as their agriculture and industry are ground under by a steady flood of US imports. And all of us losers keep letting the winners set us at each others' throats.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7045|132 and Bush

Miss USA's honor has been avenged...lol

She explained why she's here (at the Gold Cup Final), why she can't wait to see the Yanks take on El Tri in a U.S. stadium with, as midfielder DaMarcus Beasley predicted, “60,000 or 65,000 Mexicans and 10 or 15 Americans.” Why she and the American soccer player are kindred spirits.

Miss USA wrote:

“When you share similar experiences,” Smith said, “you can obviously relate. ... I didn't receive the warmest of receptions in Mexico.”
“I've been on the edge of my seat waiting to see if the U.S. and Mexico would play each other (in the Gold Cup). When I found out they were, I said: 'I've got to go to that game.'”

Put it this way: It won't be a beauty pageant.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/so … ssusa.html


Man... after watching the crowd after the first goal I would have thought it was Mexico City and not Chicago.
http://en.sevenload.com/videos/blEexMp/copa
Xbone Stormsurgezz
David.P
Banned
+649|6718
Hypocrisy at its best i must say. Just like the NOI protesting white corporations in the 60's.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|7004

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

you are so pathetic and stupid. and you wonder why the world despises you.

Do you think that the people that goes to a Miss Universe event CARES about foreign policy?, you find there people from show business, and business men, mexican people that can travel the world without any problem.

Miss USA was booed because of some retarded speech she did days before, where she showed a lack of culture.

This doesn´t have to do with foreign policy, if we want to talk about that we know that it has to be done with your government, not the current miss usa bimbo.

Gosh, what a dorks u are...
I fuck'n agree. I defend the US so much on these forums when outsiders call us uneducated and misinformed. So fuckin what they bood her. You're all acting like the muslims who wanted jihad over some cartoons. Now it's YOU guys who are the "jihadis" who want to condemn Mexican's because of this. Fuckin dumb redneck ignorrant sterotypical dickheads.

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