FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England
Ok, lately it has become known to me that I want to learn how to play the guitar. I have always wanted to learn how to play an instrument, but never really done anything about it... I suppose lately my interest in music which has grown and grown has made me want to learnt o play the guitar... Anyway, I don't know much about it I remember my friend a few years ago when he started to learn, and he just bought a cheep accoustic and went from there, but after doing some research, some guy says "Don't buy a cheap guitar as a first guitar". Now, I'm not made of money, but I can work to get some easily.

So my question is, what would you reccomend as a first guitar? I heard acoustic was best for nubs, and I don't really have enough for a full on electric guitar and amp and stuff.

So yeah, any help regarding this would be apreciated (By the way, if anyone gives me any links, make sure they're shops in the UK )
Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|6992|London (At Heart)

I havent got a musical bone in my body.

I'd love to learn also, but I really do suck
Drax
Paddles/Plane Whore
+28|7026|Australia, NSW
buy a fairly cheap metal stringed acoustic, and learn on that, after a while if you want to keep learning, get a much more expensive one

i taught myself how to play and have been going for 3 years, but am pretty good compared to other people i know who have played for longer. i also have perfect pitch, meaning i can pick up a song by ear and play it near perfectly after fiddling around with the guitar for a minute.

i currently have a fender strat squire electric guitar, an electric-acoustic ibanez (cost me >$700aus) and another cheaper metal stringed acoustic i first learned with and stick muck around with different tunings on.

my first guitar was $350aus, and was ok to start with (owned the nylon sting school guitars), but now sounds poor compared to the ibanez.

also, what kind of music are you into, cause if its metal and heavier rock, maybe a cheaper electric might not be a bad idea
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6911|Chicago, IL
metal stringed acoustic acoustic would be fine, but if you really want to start on an electric, try a first act.  They're kind of crappy, but good enough to learn on, and some come with an amp as well.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7114
Metal string acoustic, I play the piano(almost pro with 12 years experience behind my belt) and the guitar..Don't bother buying something too expensive unless you actually get into it.

I was thinking about posting some of my work here..
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|6873|Somersetshire
i got a question on the topic of guitars


i'm naturally right handed (left footed), but my friends pointed out (when we were drunk and air guitarist's heehee) that i hold a "pretend guitar" left handedly, i just said it felt more natural

and i really wanted other peeps thoughts on this cos i want to learn soon (when i get enough money to buy one)
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6911|Chicago, IL
try both at the store, and buy whichever one suits you better.
Microwave
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+515|7120|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK
Pshhhh guitar...at least learn something original like a harp!
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England

Drax wrote:

buy a fairly cheap metal stringed acoustic, and learn on that, after a while if you want to keep learning, get a much more expensive one

i taught myself how to play and have been going for 3 years, but am pretty good compared to other people i know who have played for longer. i also have perfect pitch, meaning i can pick up a song by ear and play it near perfectly after fiddling around with the guitar for a minute.

i currently have a fender strat squire electric guitar, an electric-acoustic ibanez (cost me >$700aus) and another cheaper metal stringed acoustic i first learned with and stick muck around with different tunings on.

my first guitar was $350aus, and was ok to start with (owned the nylon sting school guitars), but now sounds poor compared to the ibanez.

also, what kind of music are you into, cause if its metal and heavier rock, maybe a cheaper electric might not be a bad idea
Music I'm into, mainly punk at the moment, but I like a bit of everything.
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|7203|The Hague, Netherlands

james@alienware wrote:

Pshhhh guitar...at least learn something original like a harp!
triangle !
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36eac2cb6af70a43508fd8d1c93d3201f4e23435.png
gmoschgat
Member
+5|6914
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England

gmoschgat wrote:

you will suck at first and nobody wants to here it so use this  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=151708

i have this
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=240508

or and recommended
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156607

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156606
...these im sure can be used with headphones and with carzy amounts of effects you wont become bored easy.

guitar

Ibanez is a great company
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=519417
or
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=515390

strings
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=100621
Would you recomend getting an electric guitar at first then?
Drax
Paddles/Plane Whore
+28|7026|Australia, NSW

Tehremos wrote:

i got a question on the topic of guitars


i'm naturally right handed (left footed), but my friends pointed out (when we were drunk and air guitarist's heehee) that i hold a "pretend guitar" left handedly, i just said it felt more natural

and i really wanted other peeps thoughts on this cos i want to learn soon (when i get enough money to buy one)
leftys(even tho ur right) can learn right handed guitars upsidedown or can invert the strings and turn it around. if you actually pick a guitar up and have a playing, instead of strumming air while drunk, you would get a feel for whatever way is right for you quikly. of course, whatever way you do choose (left of right), once u actually get going u will adapt and wont be able to swap easy
Drax
Paddles/Plane Whore
+28|7026|Australia, NSW

FFLink13 wrote:

gmoschgat wrote:

you will suck at first and nobody wants to here it so use this  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=151708

i have this
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=240508

or and recommended
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156607

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156606
...these im sure can be used with headphones and with carzy amounts of effects you wont become bored easy.

guitar

Ibanez is a great company
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=519417
or
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=515390

strings
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=100621
Would you recomend getting an electric guitar at first then?
yes, if you like punk, get a cheap electric and a 15w amp somewhere. upgrade if u stick with it for ages and get good.

also, play around with it for a while before deciding whether or not u want lessons... chords are easy to learn off internets, as are looking for tabs of songs u like.


i bought my fender strat squire (in a whole pack with an amp, stand etc) for about $700aus, and its fine for playing at home or even in a small concert. i dont know what ur range in moneys is but id recommend a fender/gibson/ibanez/epiphone or something along those lines.  ashton make cheap electrics but all their ones ive heard sounded fairly poor compared to gibson/fender

Last edited by Drax (2007-05-31 07:24:47)

theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7215
Link, I would recommend getting a steal stringed acoustic also, as this is what I did when i first started to teach myself.

I got a £250 Fender though to begin with as a "doing well in exams" present from the folks, so was not a bad start.
https://www.musicianshop.com/Fender_Guitars/Fender_acoustic_guitar_CD100.jpg

But you need to remember that to begin with, you are going to totally suck at playing and picking songs/riffs up. (unless you are just naturally gifted at the guitar). I used to be REALLY bad at just playing a couple of cords, but then I tried at learning some simple riffs. The riffs seemed easier to me, and were more fun cause it actually feels like you are getting somewhere!

As has been said, if you are not sure about which hand to play with, go into a guitar shop and try one out. the sales people will be more than happy to give you a try, and you can do this in all the different guitar shops until you know which hand to play with and you might even decide on what guitar to get in the process.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England
Hmm... I know a guitar shop... I pass it everyday on the way too and from school.

Ok, cheers all

By the way, I really like the look of this guitar that gmoschgat posted:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=515390

*drools*
lord.knaslaban
Member
+13|7031|Uppsala, Sweden
If you are just beginning to play, if acoustic, don't buy an expensive guitar, if you aren't any good it wont be a difference in sound etc.

If you are buying an electric guitar, the sound varies much more (still depends on the skill of the player though).
I have four guitars, two nylon stringed acoustics , one steel-stringed acoustic and one electric (Fender Telecaster with tech 21 amp - much recommended)

Anyway, I'd buy a cheap guitar now to see if you want to continue playing, then buy a much more expensive one when you fell you've got the hang of it.

Start learning the simple chords, most songs are built up round them anyway. Punk, Rock and such genres is almost always played in "Power-Chords" (I guess that is what you mean by playing riffs?), which are very simple, you just press down two or three strings for every chord.
And learn to read tabulature, then you can learn songs quickly from the internet.

Good Luck!
GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6684|Phoenix, AZ
Uve got PM!
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6755|Éire
Learn bass instead

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England
http://www.soundpad.co.uk/index.php?pag … p;limit=10

My friend shown me that link. Is that any good?
Roomba
You will pay the price for your lack of vision.
+26|6957|Land of Cotton
Ok. I chime in. Things to think about:

Bridge: look into a  Floyd Rose locking tremelo. Stays in tune but it is more difficult to change strings. Plus you can make the 'dive bomb' noises and it will stay in tune better.

Neck: 22 vs 24 frets. I like 24 frets for the two full playable octaves. You won't find yourself playing up there that often as a beginner but it is a good thing to grow into.

Tuner: Get one that you can plug your ax straight into. This will help your 'ear' develop, too.

You could spend you money on an effects pedal rather than a amp. Digitech makes good stuff. If you choose this route, get one with a 'jam-along' jack. You can input a CD/mp3 player and jam with your favorite music. The pedal will give you a huge variety of tones to explore. That way, you won't get bored by hearing the same distortion or acoustic. Below is just an example. It has USB connectivity.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156606

Bottom line: Have fun. Get a few basics down. Play what you enjoy listening to.

Good luck.
Marinejuana
local
+415|7050|Seattle
shop around at the $300 price point for used instruments. beyond that price u arent really getting a lot more in sound and feel. But that doesnt mean go for the super glossy $300 new guitar u see at guitar center because a lot of those (like a lot of epiphones have been over the last 10 years) are dressed POS guitars.

But all that aside, u dont need to think a lot about your equipment, just keep your strings fresh and practice as often as most of us play BF2. Most people become great at the guitar by playing a few hours every single day. If you want to get good at playing with others and writing music it helps to train your ear and playing together by both learning all the usual scales (major minor and pentatonic for starters, find them online and learn ALL of the positions up the neck) and chords, and then also spending time trying to learn your favorite songs and solos by really listening to the notes and finding them on the guitar etc. I emphasize this more than a lot of things because its really rewarding and fun to figure out songs and it takes something fun to motivate people to practice enough. It also gets you playing along with things and probably the most fun you can have on the guitar is getting a few people together for jams. Hope that stuff helps a little, I used to play a LOT in high school. Just sit there spacing out with a guitar in your hands like you would sit at your computer and you will get pretty comfortable with it.

Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-05-31 10:54:35)

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7156|Devon, England

Marinejuana wrote:

shop around at the $300 price point for used instruments. beyond that price u arent really getting a lot more in sound and feel. But that doesnt mean go for the super glossy $300 new guitar u see at guitar center because a lot of those (like a lot of epiphones have been over the last 10 years) are dressed POS guitars.

But all that aside, u dont need to think a lot about your equipment, just keep your strings fresh and practice as often as most of us play BF2. Most people become great at the guitar by playing a few hours every single day. If you want to get good at playing with others and writing music it helps to train your ear and playing together by both learning all the usual scales (major minor and pentatonic for starters, find them online and learn ALL of the positions up the neck) and chords, and then also spending time trying to learn your favorite songs and solos by really listening to the notes and finding them on the guitar etc. I emphasize this more than a lot of things because its really rewarding and fun to figure out songs and it takes something fun to motivate people to practice enough. It also gets you playing along with things and probably the most fun you can have on the guitar is getting a few people together for jams. Hope that stuff helps a little, I used to play a LOT in high school. Just sit there spacing out with a guitar in your hands like you would sit at your computer and you will get pretty comfortable with it.
Thanks, that's some good advice ^^
Schwarzelungen
drunklenglungen
+133|6761|Bloomington Indiana
i started off with and ibanez electric about 8 years ago....still play it. i searched UK ebay and found something that seemed decent to start with
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ibanez-SA-120-BK- … dZViewItem

if youre playing punk rock, its better to start electric...acoustic can always be a fun thing to have on the side later in life...i still dont own one...just use the roomies.
best luck
chittydog
less busy
+586|7300|Kubra, Damn it!

Roomba wrote:

Ok. I chime in. Things to think about:

Bridge: look into a  Floyd Rose locking tremelo. Stays in tune but it is more difficult to change strings. Plus you can make the 'dive bomb' noises and it will stay in tune better.

Neck: 22 vs 24 frets. I like 24 frets for the two full playable octaves. You won't find yourself playing up there that often as a beginner but it is a good thing to grow into.

Tuner: Get one that you can plug your ax straight into. This will help your 'ear' develop, too.

You could spend you money on an effects pedal rather than a amp. Digitech makes good stuff. If you choose this route, get one with a 'jam-along' jack. You can input a CD/mp3 player and jam with your favorite music. The pedal will give you a huge variety of tones to explore. That way, you won't get bored by hearing the same distortion or acoustic. Below is just an example. It has USB connectivity.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ … sku=156606

Bottom line: Have fun. Get a few basics down. Play what you enjoy listening to.

Good luck.
He can worry about all that crap in a couple of years if he's still playing.

Since you like punk, get a cheap electric with an small amp. In a year or two if you're still playing and want to join a band, you can upgrade then. That gives you time to save up for something decent. And honestly, if you're playing punk, you don't really need great equipment. Punk is better when it's raw, anyway. Go rip it up, ff!

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