Poll

Alienware or build your own computer (saying u already have the money)

Alienware10%10% - 35
Custom computer89%89% - 301
Total: 336
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7017|good old CA

Sgt.Gene wrote:

FoodNipple101 wrote:

Btw You Cannnot Customize An Alienware After Purchse You Have To Send It To Them For Updates Do Not Buy 1
what r u fucking stupid i customized my alienware right on the internet
didnt he say after he purschased it?
Chef-Daz
Member
+4|6950
Very Simply Put... Alienware Is A Nice Option For People Who Don't Know How To Build A Pc.
                              Alienware Is Way Overpriced, They Are Name Brand Equivalent

There Are Other Options For People Who Arn't Comfortable Building A System

                                   Check Out         Monarchcomputers.com       
          They Will Build, Test And Configure It loaded with the latest drivers and bios
At A Minimal Cost, Their Prices Match Newegg On Componets And They Offer A 3 Year 24/7 Tech Support Parts/labor Onsite For 100.00 (alienware Is 300.00)
                 They Won't Allow You To Build A System That Isn't Compatable And They Offer Twice The Selections You Would Get From Falcon Or Alienware At About 20% Cheaper
You Can Select It Piece By Piece In The Configurator And Put Your Money Where It Is Most Important To You. Ie. Memory, Storage, Video Card Etc...


      Btw ....  I'M Simply A Satisfied Customer   Check Them Out At   http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2079.html

Last edited by Chef-Daz (2006-01-09 21:18:46)

shellshox345
Member
+4|6957

spyderman120 wrote:

ok, ill say it right out front, i am a noob to these forums, and have only been playing Bf2 for a month or so...go ahead and hit me, i'll turn the other cheek. (a little humor) anyways, i have two basic questions, which will inevitably open up into much more.

1st: i want to build my own, and first, PC. and i want to be ale to play these games on it, heh. so, if anybody could point me in the right direction, as in what to buy(specs or what you are using, just help in any way). price range is probably somewhere up to $1000, at the highest at this point.

2nd: i have been playing BF2, like i said, but am wondering, if and when i get my newly self-built PC up and running, should i get BF2 or BF2:SF? again, any help or tips

thanks!
As for the computer question all I can say is make sure to have at least 1Gb of ram, and Get an AMD processer. But you have to have Bf2 to play Bf2:SF.
ifixphns2
Member
+3|6980|Evanston, WY
nix alienware, why pay more for a logo on the lid?  I had Sagernotebook.com build me a 5720-V (Basically a pro-built whitebox laptop) to my specs. yeah it cost me, but it beats any alienwhore out of the water for thousands less! https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/ifixphns/Lightfighter/Smilies/bows.gif <- me to Sager

Last edited by ifixphns2 (2006-01-11 22:16:08)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7036|PNW

I posted this somewhere else, but thought I'd share it here.

I wrote:

Every two months or so, I scan my e-mail offers folder and occasionally find one or two good deals that I follow through with. Alienware was not among these.

Here's their latest and greatest:

Black Chassis
PC Power & Cooling 850 Watt

Athlon 64 FX-60 Dual Core
2x 512MB PCI-e 7800GTX (brand not listed)
nForce 4 sli x16 mainboard (brand otherwise unlisted)
2-3-2-5-1T "low latency" dual channel DDR SDRAM 400MHz 2x1024 (no brand listed)
2x in RAID0  74GB SATA 10K (brand not listed, though I know it's Western Digital)
2x 500GB SATA-II (they should be listing it correctly, as SATA-300, but they're forgiven) 7.2K (probably Hitachi)
16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive
16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive w/LightScribe Technology
Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi® Elite Pro High Definition 7.1 Audio with XRAM Technology (oh god, they listed the manufacturer)

Win XP Pro SP2
AlienAdrenaline Video Performance Optimizer
3DMark '05

1-year warranty
Automated Tech Support Request System
Free T-Shirt & Mouse Pad (ooh.)
Alien Inspection (which means that they actually test the computer before sending it to you. how generous.)

So...how much does all this come up to?

$7046, with the oh-so-great $100-off e-mail coupon.

Let's see what I can come up with...

$1000 for the processor, $200 for the motherboard, $1400 for the video cards, $275 for the memory, $300 for the Raptors, $660 for the storage drives, $100 for the DVD writers, $300 for the sound card, $80 for the operating system, $30 for 3DMark '05, and a generic construction fee of $50, $20 for the chassis, and $300 for the power supply. That comes up to: $4715. That's right, around $2300 cheaper than an Alienware. If anything, Alienware has gotten more expensive in the last several months. Hell, I'll even add a monitor, scanner, printer, label maker, MIDI keyboard and battery backup to the mix and still come out with a slightly lower price.

Any of their customers between now and a few months from now are going to receive an unpleasant suprise when AMD unleashes Socket AM2 systems with DDR2...if Alienware customers even follow the industry. If you think you're getting any unique tech support by buying into them, just run a few Google searches on Alienware support, and make up your own mind. Alienware, though they used have some of the best systems, simply expanded through spammed marketing faster than their quality control could keep up. Error mileage may vary.

Sadly, this is not even libel.
Make up your own mind.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-01-12 16:43:24)

Viper007Bond
Moderator Emeritus
+236|7070|Portland, OR, USA

I'd rather light my money on fire and burn it than waste it on an Alienware.

Building > all.
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Computer_Guy
Member
+54|6962
Its way better to customize. Because you know what parts you're putting in and you pick the parts. Its also cheaper too.
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7098
Custom Built.
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7017|good old CA
wow this is an old thread lol
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6937|Colorado
I could have 5 computers that could run bf2 for the price of one alienware.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

yeah, diy
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6981
your own since u can mod ur own case and cooling . for sgt gene, he means after u buy the alienware (customizing) u cant upgrade anymore unless u send it back to them for upgrades. but for custom pc's, i would go w/ Voodoo

Last edited by cyborg_ninja-117 (2006-05-17 01:52:56)

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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7036|PNW

If you must buy pre-bought, go with Acer (notebooks) or FalconNW (desktops).

DIY for the win, though.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-05-17 02:50:02)

.ACB|_Cutthroat1
No place like 127.0.0.1
+76|6960|Gold Coast,QLD,Australia
DIY is more satisfying
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6936

Zedman wrote:

Alienwares are HIGHLY overpriced. Besides, Custom is much better, IMO. Since i like to tinker, but thats just me.
You can build your own, same specs, for half.

THen you can take your lady out to dinner every night for a month to help justify the ammount of money you just spent
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6981

.ACB|_Cutthroat1 wrote:

DIY is more satisfying
yes it is

again the thread says what if money wasnt the object? and the two systems costs the same....

DIY is much more better coz u can choose what brand mobo, vid card, etc etc and cooler.
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Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|6920|Brisbane, Australia

Lol that alienware Build v Buy stuff is pure bullshit, this is my take on this page here


http://www.alienware.com/build_vs_buy_pages/style.aspx


Alien ware sayz: Be a good sheep and buy from us



And now for alienwares totaly bias comparison!


Alienware:
Be a cool kid, have a nice case

Custom:
Have all the kids at school laugh at you because your case sucks


(Sarrks Comparision)

Alienware:
Look like a total toolbox when taking that thing to LANs

Custom:
Get some *street cred* because you built your own, which takes SKILL, unlike clicking abit




Really most cases these days dont look like a grey box, and get this, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOUR CASE LOOKS LIKE! ITS THE HARDWARE THAT COUNTS! GET A CLEAR SIDE CASE IF YOU WANT TO BE COOL! Nice shitty lights will only look good for so long.........
bf2_zspyvin
Member
+17|6949|The Netherlands
Alien ask to many money...

I got mine builded by a store :\ (Mycom The Netherlands)

Amd X2 4200+
Asus A8n-sli
350 Watt
Asus Dvd Writer/rwriter and more cant find the product name
ASUS DVD-E616P2
2x 512 mb ram
1x 250 Gb sata
Ati X850 XT PE 256mb
Logitech Internet Pro Keyboard
Logitecht G5 Lasermouse

for 2000,- euro
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6981
ZOMG!~~~~ u paid that much? wow so expensive... w/ that amount of money i can get 7900gt, 2 X 1GB high performance ram, 600 watt psu...  i think europe is so expensive for pc parts
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Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7102

Sarrk wrote:

Really most cases these days dont look like a grey box, and get this, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOUR CASE LOOKS LIKE! ITS THE HARDWARE THAT COUNTS! GET A CLEAR SIDE CASE IF YOU WANT TO BE COOL! Nice shitty lights will only look good for so long.........
But I like my shitty lights and dohickies and whirlliegigs.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6981

Burning_Monkey wrote:

Sarrk wrote:

Really most cases these days dont look like a grey box, and get this, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOUR CASE LOOKS LIKE! ITS THE HARDWARE THAT COUNTS! GET A CLEAR SIDE CASE IF YOU WANT TO BE COOL! Nice shitty lights will only look good for so long.........
But I like my shitty lights and dohickies and whirlliegigs.
mmm lights are good. but cases do matter for better air flow, and w/ window cases (especially for modders) can see if their fan is working or not without opening the case on the pc, so its kinda good
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Nagarond.Damminson
Member
+16|7022
anyone had any experience with ibuypower.com? I've noticed their systems, and they seem to be pretty comparable with their prices, but i was wanting some input on their service/warranties.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6855|Your attic
Well for most of us (gamers ) building your own would be preferable, I used to paly BF2 on a old advent PC that I stuck a 6600gt in, knew nothing about power supplies, nothing about processors, basically I could turn it on and off, and blow a few virtual people up. However it was getting buggy, and I later discovered the PSU wass vastly underpowered and was for all intensive purpouses a pile of crap.

After reading a few places like this and considering the Alienware option I decided to build my own, tell you what it was up there with the top 20 ish things i've ever done in my life. You learn more in the space of a few weeks then any course could ever teach you, now I could go into any computer, name most of the important sections, and pull it all apart and put it back together again without batting an eyelash, just do your research and don't rush it. Make sure you find the cheapest (but most reliable) source for all your parts and your away, read as much as you can and if you have accsess to people who know about it for gods sake ask, a few mates of mine have blown £150 of stuff because they had no idea what they were doing.

However if your short on time (some people have to work I guess) or are not confident sure, buy alienware. If you think about it you aren't paying much more for the parts, but for the man hours it takes to build these, atleast you'll know that when you push that power button the first time it will start, and if it doesn't you've got someone to bitch and moan at if it doesn't.
vjs
Member
+19|7036
Yup my favorite case is a cardboard box...

I love pulling my board out of the box setting it on the table and have people looking at it like cheap junk.

When I'm first into a round they come over and look later.

Holy %$#$&*^, thats a dual processor with 15k scsi drives and 2 g of memory... unfortunately my x850 lost it's wow factor.

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Another great mod, a friend of mine has  120V squirl fan at the front of his case running off a relay, MAJOR AIR FLOW and not that loud at all.

Last edited by vjs (2006-05-17 14:13:31)

sixshot
Decepticon Geek
+50|6940|Planet Seibertron ;)
Huh? People still post to an ancient thread dated many months ago???

Hmm... custom all the way... because:

1) can get similar or better spec system for less
2) use leftover cash for Lian Li case
3) better latency RAM
4) and a widescreen Dell panel

All of this would add up considerably considering the overhead charges from Alienware.  If there's about US$200-300 left over, that's just enough for a full-blown water-cooling system.  And that would be the icing on the cake.

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