baggs wrote:
so the kid who lives across the road from me, the same kid who throws stones at moving cars and the windows of my house, the same kid who's mummy says in the calmest and most quaint voice 'dont do that tyler, its not nice' then retreats back to her coma inducing daytime tv, the same kid who has always had the softly softly 'oh we understand our children' approach from his shit box parents.Gawwad wrote:
Most parents don't know how to discipline their children. Those who do, never have to resort to violence.Cougar wrote:
Yes because nothing says "I shouldn't do that" like a nice 5 minute vacation to my room, later that day, they do it again. Whip their ass and they think "If I do this again, daddy will whip my ass, I don't think I want to do that again."
People have whipped their kids since the dawn of time. It's only recently that the PCness and sensitivity movement has taken over and suddenly parents are evil when they discipline their children. It comes as no surprise that the children of today are the most rotten little shits in the history of man.
It's all about understanding how the mind of a youngster works. Kids who are not hit but got to behave on more civilised methods tend to behave even if there is no parent beating them up. Behaving well starts to be their own idea, rather than forced on them by punishments.
Edit: one thing to do atleast is to ALWAYS compliment your kids when they behave. When you come home from shopping and they have been good, tell them that and they feel that they are respected.
ur telling me, that little upstart would do better off without a smack every now and then?
oh and that his mummy should be complimenting him on his ever increasing accuracy with stones, footballs and whatever else he happens to find?
Kids should be hit.
Plain and simple, the amount of kids these days that don't understand that they arent the boss in this world is unbelieveable.
I was hit when I played up as a child, and I learnt from it. If kirds try to be the best, and think they are better than their parents, they SHOULD be forcefully taught a lesson that they aren't.
Otherwise they grow up, no respect for any authority, becomes dealers, crackheads, chavs and general dropouts.
I'm not saying every kid NEEDS to be beaten, but they certainly do if they are being a gobshite.
Plain and simple, the amount of kids these days that don't understand that they arent the boss in this world is unbelieveable.
I was hit when I played up as a child, and I learnt from it. If kirds try to be the best, and think they are better than their parents, they SHOULD be forcefully taught a lesson that they aren't.
Otherwise they grow up, no respect for any authority, becomes dealers, crackheads, chavs and general dropouts.
I'm not saying every kid NEEDS to be beaten, but they certainly do if they are being a gobshite.
I'm not really for hitting your kids, but it should definetely not be outlawed
let me explain:
You have to take the right approach from the moment your kids are born. My parents had a pretty no-BS attitude with me and my sister and it payed off. They never had to use violence simply because they knew how to stop us from growing up to be self-centred little twats. Cry? get ignored. Do stupid things? do nothing for a while. Don't like your food? tough. and so on. So while a beating is justified, it's NOT if you have to resort to it to repress instead of teach.
I see a lot of kids thesedays who have absolutely no respect for their parents. Even though I'm not too fond of mine as people, I never treat them badly or with disrespect. example: I'm about to go home from school. On the way out there's a girl standing by the road in front of a car. When I go past the door opens and I hear the girl say this to the man in the car:
"erm, hello? why the hell didn't you pick up the phone? I don't need you to drive me home, dad, I'm going somewhere with friends" *slams car door*
I mean, wtf?
let me explain:
You have to take the right approach from the moment your kids are born. My parents had a pretty no-BS attitude with me and my sister and it payed off. They never had to use violence simply because they knew how to stop us from growing up to be self-centred little twats. Cry? get ignored. Do stupid things? do nothing for a while. Don't like your food? tough. and so on. So while a beating is justified, it's NOT if you have to resort to it to repress instead of teach.
I see a lot of kids thesedays who have absolutely no respect for their parents. Even though I'm not too fond of mine as people, I never treat them badly or with disrespect. example: I'm about to go home from school. On the way out there's a girl standing by the road in front of a car. When I go past the door opens and I hear the girl say this to the man in the car:
"erm, hello? why the hell didn't you pick up the phone? I don't need you to drive me home, dad, I'm going somewhere with friends" *slams car door*
I mean, wtf?
hmm if I called one my parents an butthole when I was an child, i would get some serious asswhipping and earbashing...
the joke was funny, but definitely slightly fucked up (im a former MARINE). but for the kid part, there is no way on GOD's green earth i would let my kids talk to me like that!! i give my kid a spanking just for saying "no", in that cocky little voice they have. i have absolutely no problem giving my kids a swat on the ass or the hands when they earn it, my wife isn't fond of it, but i told her once that if she tries to over ride what i say or do she would get the same (although she likes to get spankings!! LOL) i remember when i was a kid, and i got my ass WHOOPED it was for a reason, and i learned from it. parents that don't discipline their kids are just asking for trouble when they get older!!!
whats wrong with putting a child in a cage? it rubs the lotion on it's skin...Cougar wrote:
When the state steps in and tells you how you can and cannot discipline your children, then it's time for a revolution, because that's fucking retarded. As long as you aren't putting them in cages at night or something fucked up like that, I don't see how it's anyone's business other than your own.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
You know what sucks?
It is now illegal in Australia to hit your children, AT ALL.
their definitely is a difference between "beating" your kid and "disciplining" your kid. i'm all for discipline, my kids are screwed i'm a former MARINE and i was a DRILL INSTRUCTOR for juvenile fuck ups sentenced by the courts.
....or else it gets the hose again.Marlboroman82 wrote:
whats wrong with putting a child in a cage? it rubs the lotion on it's skin...Cougar wrote:
When the state steps in and tells you how you can and cannot discipline your children, then it's time for a revolution, because that's fucking retarded. As long as you aren't putting them in cages at night or something fucked up like that, I don't see how it's anyone's business other than your own.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
You know what sucks?
It is now illegal in Australia to hit your children, AT ALL.
When I was younger, 7-8, and I screwed something up my Dad would give a little bit of pain. Not like punches, smacks, etc, like pushing on a part of your neck that made it very uncomfortable to move your head or arms for some reason. Mainly because at that time it was a public place like a pool or park and it would be a bit rude for my parent to outright smack me there.
Regardless, I learned from it, and now I don't give my parents a single reason to smack me around. All I ask is $20 a month for a game/website (which I should probobly cancel anyways) and I'm entertained till kingdome come.
Regardless, I learned from it, and now I don't give my parents a single reason to smack me around. All I ask is $20 a month for a game/website (which I should probobly cancel anyways) and I'm entertained till kingdome come.
Parents don't need to respect or reward their kids. Little Johnny just needs to understand that acting up will get him his ass thumped. It's simple, effective, and has been working for THOUSANDS of years. All this Dr. Spock hippie bullshit is exactly what spawns screaming children in public who will eventually get their way. As a kid, if I even THOUGHT about screwing around in public, I got "the look", and that was enough for me to quell it.
I, also, think it's great when a screamer's parents have totally tuned them out in a restaurant. Guess what? The rest of the patrons HAVEN'T.
I, also, think it's great when a screamer's parents have totally tuned them out in a restaurant. Guess what? The rest of the patrons HAVEN'T.
Nice rant Cougar.
However, it is obvious you are not a parent.
Reality trumps ideals.
If that guy had whacked his kid Child Protective Services would have likely shown up and taken the kid, after the mn arrested him for child abuse.
The smart parent begs or bribes the kid out of the pool, calmly walks to the car, drives to a secluded parking lot and then beats the snot out of the little Nazi.
However, it is obvious you are not a parent.
Reality trumps ideals.
If that guy had whacked his kid Child Protective Services would have likely shown up and taken the kid, after the mn arrested him for child abuse.
The smart parent begs or bribes the kid out of the pool, calmly walks to the car, drives to a secluded parking lot and then beats the snot out of the little Nazi.
Reading this really reminded me of this guy that I know: http://www.rtscommunity.com/forums/inde … 263.0.html
But really, if a kid is acting like that he deserves to be smacked. But these days kids are lazy spoiled brats, taking away TV/Video games for a month will teach him more than one smack.
But really, if a kid is acting like that he deserves to be smacked. But these days kids are lazy spoiled brats, taking away TV/Video games for a month will teach him more than one smack.
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My kid will absolutely not pull any of that shit on me. As soon as they act up, things will be taken away and/or we will be leaving immediately. They will grow to fear the look, and know when they've stepped out of line. My parents took no shit from me or my siblings, punishment was swift and severe, and it worked. We did not fuck around because we knew that we would be in for hell if we did. My parents were in no way mean, but they let us know that when we were out of line. I love and respect my parents, and because of their discipline, my siblings and I didn't grow up to be assholes.
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ya i believe some kids are just too bratty and need a smackdown to get then in line. so yes i think hitting is good for some situations. reconsidering that hitting means spanking and and not full out punch to the face
I remember as a kid I would hate getting spanked or whipped, I would plead for another punishment. Getting grounded? Only once did I have it go its full length of time. I would go back and forth between my mom and my stepdad till I got permission to get off, then would go and do whatever. But man if I screwed up bad and it came to a whipping that was it. I was running scared. I knew I shouldn't have done that, I knew it was going to suck after this and whatever it was I did was NOT worth what I was about to get. In hindsight the spankings weren't that bad, I would pysch myself out (or my parents would making me get the branch) and it would make it so much worse.
Getting grounded and having priviliages taken away isn't that big a deal. It's too easy to get off or around or circumvent the authority on that. You have great kids that are ideal and role modelish around adults and then go out and end up getting trashed in their teens and doing horrible things. Me, I knew better. Not saying I didn't drink or anything, I just didn't go out and terrorize the neighborhood when I did. All the mailboxes were still in their natural shape in the morning if you know what I mean.
Getting grounded and having priviliages taken away isn't that big a deal. It's too easy to get off or around or circumvent the authority on that. You have great kids that are ideal and role modelish around adults and then go out and end up getting trashed in their teens and doing horrible things. Me, I knew better. Not saying I didn't drink or anything, I just didn't go out and terrorize the neighborhood when I did. All the mailboxes were still in their natural shape in the morning if you know what I mean.
I get smashed every now and again with friends, but I can think of far better places to do it, then on the street, getting into fights etc...Ridir wrote:
I remember as a kid I would hate getting spanked or whipped, I would plead for another punishment. Getting grounded? Only once did I have it go its full length of time. I would go back and forth between my mom and my stepdad till I got permission to get off, then would go and do whatever. But man if I screwed up bad and it came to a whipping that was it. I was running scared. I knew I shouldn't have done that, I knew it was going to suck after this and whatever it was I did was NOT worth what I was about to get. In hindsight the spankings weren't that bad, I would pysch myself out (or my parents would making me get the branch) and it would make it so much worse.
Getting grounded and having priviliages taken away isn't that big a deal. It's too easy to get off or around or circumvent the authority on that. You have great kids that are ideal and role modelish around adults and then go out and end up getting trashed in their teens and doing horrible things. Me, I knew better. Not saying I didn't drink or anything, I just didn't go out and terrorize the neighborhood when I did. All the mailboxes were still in their natural shape in the morning if you know what I mean.
I know something worse, being related to an annoying little shit on holiday, my younger brother spends his time in other countries being rude, arrogant, racist, assumes no one speaks english but can understand it if he speaks it at them slowly and loudly, you know all the bad stereotypes except drunkenness (yet), and whilst i make sure i slap him round the back of the head later on, he never learns and i can only wonder about the bad impression many foreigners must have got about the English (or Americans, as they occasionally assume he is)^*AlphA*^ wrote:
one of the biggest stuff I hate, annoying/retarded kids and parents on holiday
seems to me that many of the violent discipliners on this thread are after the feeling of power when a little kid that can't do anything is punished with violence. I does not make you cool if you are ablo to hit a kid and make him stop missbehaving. That's just not how you rise kids.
Respect works two ways, you need to respect your child for him/her to respect you. For a child having to fear his parents is just plain wrong.
Fear is the last thing you want your kids to feel for you. Respect and fear are two different things.heggs wrote:
My kid will absolutely not pull any of that shit on me. As soon as they act up, things will be taken away and/or we will be leaving immediately. They will grow to fear the look, and know when they've stepped out of line. My parents took no shit from me or my siblings, punishment was swift and severe, and it worked. We did not fuck around because we knew that we would be in for hell if we did. My parents were in no way mean, but they let us know that when we were out of line. I love and respect my parents, and because of their discipline, my siblings and I didn't grow up to be assholes.
Respect works two ways, you need to respect your child for him/her to respect you. For a child having to fear his parents is just plain wrong.
Daddy drinks and beat you up coz he loves you.Gawwad wrote:
seems to me that many of the violent discipliners on this thread are after the feeling of power when a little kid that can't do anything is punished with violence. I does not make you cool if you are ablo to hit a kid and make him stop missbehaving. That's just not how you rise kids.Fear is the last thing you want your kids to feel for you. Respect and fear are two different things.heggs wrote:
My kid will absolutely not pull any of that shit on me. As soon as they act up, things will be taken away and/or we will be leaving immediately. They will grow to fear the look, and know when they've stepped out of line. My parents took no shit from me or my siblings, punishment was swift and severe, and it worked. We did not fuck around because we knew that we would be in for hell if we did. My parents were in no way mean, but they let us know that when we were out of line. I love and respect my parents, and because of their discipline, my siblings and I didn't grow up to be assholes.
Respect works two ways, you need to respect your child for him/her to respect you. For a child having to fear his parents is just plain wrong.
yeah there is a bunch of littel shits up the road and they are really fucking spoilt, anyways me and my friend were taking his dog for a walk around the neighbourhood, they are outside and one of them just comes out and hits the dog with a broom on hte nose we were like wtf, they continued to piss me and my friends of for a few weeks randomly trying to hit us with stuff like one time me and my friend were riding our bikes around the block and they come and hit us as we rode by, we made a game of this so we rode past dodging them, then one time they came out the front of my house (with golf clubs , i didnt worry coz they were weak shits but anyways), i saw this from my room and took out my glovegun and aimed and shot one in the back of the head out of my window, they went crying home, they never saw me but they think it was me and they havnt really bothered me since(well they are still spoilt brats that leave $300 bikes on the road and have like a new one each week).
so yeah you need to hit your child sometimes atleast if they are spoilt like that, not so hard to hurt them but just enough for them to relize what they are doing is wrong.
so yeah you need to hit your child sometimes atleast if they are spoilt like that, not so hard to hurt them but just enough for them to relize what they are doing is wrong.
funny fucking joke...
rest of that shit was right on too
rest of that shit was right on too