GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7089

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

United States Army Infantry

Hands DOWN

do it. DO IT!
Ignore the heretic.  Isn't it safer to be behind all that nice protective Armor and that bigass cannon?
too many video games
millhous
Member
+39|7082|OREEGONE, USA
I figure this thread is steering towards a flame war between all the branches or anti-war figures so i'll try and steer it back:

Good for you trackstarr for considering joining the military.  If your like me, you don't have any idea what to do after high school and you certainly don't have the grades, money, or desire to go directly to college.  I joined the Navy to see the world and get the College Fund and GI Bill (its working wonders right now.)  I don't regret a single moment I spent while I was in. 

Here are a few tips:

BE WARNED:  Your recruiter is NOT your friend.  Think of them as car salesmen.  You can't stand 'em, but you still have to deal with them.  Ask about all the enlistment bonuses and college funds you can.  Don't pick what they want you to do.  Look over each job CAREFULLY and THOROUGHLY.  On paper, the military can make a janitor look like a waste management technician.  Its all in the wording so be careful.  Choose your rate, choose your fate.

Also, joining the DEP (Delayed Entry Program) will decrease your time spent in the inactive reserves (if you decide to get out.)  You can also gain rank before your even sworn in by meeting certain criteria.

If you do decide to join, be prepared to do some paperwork.  The military is a finely tune machine of bureaucracy so bring a pen wherever you go.  The motto "Hurry up and wait."  applies heavily in the paperwork department.  You'll spend a whole day or two down at your states MEPS depot filling out the initial paperwork.  Then when you get to boot, you'll spend anywhere from a couple of days to 2 weeks filling out more.

Hope this info helps.

Last edited by millhous (2007-06-04 23:26:16)

Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6923|Communist Republic of CA, USA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

United States Army Infantry

Hands DOWN

do it. DO IT!
Ignore the heretic.  Isn't it safer to be behind all that nice protective Armor and that bigass cannon?
too many video games
Watch your mouth, Crunchy.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7216|PNW

millhous wrote:

Then when you get to boot, you'll spend anywhere from a couple of days to 2 weeks filling out more.
Forgot to mention that. And remember, it's more important to them than sleep, so you're going to be starting off jet-lagged and a day or two in sleep-debt. If you can learn to sleep on your feet, do it.
millhous
Member
+39|7082|OREEGONE, USA

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

millhous wrote:

Then when you get to boot, you'll spend anywhere from a couple of days to 2 weeks filling out more.
Forgot to mention that. And remember, it's more important to them than sleep, so you're going to be starting off jet-lagged and a day or two in sleep-debt. If you can learn to sleep on your feet, do it.
Exactly.

You'll get your first full-nights sleep when you get to your designation school.
acEofspadEs6313
Shiny! Let's be bad guys.
+102|7137|NAS Jacksonville, Florida

millhous wrote:

I figure this thread is steering towards a flame war between all the branches or anti-war figures so i'll try and steer it back:

Good for you trackstarr for considering joining the military.  If your like me, you don't have any idea what to do after high school and you certainly don't have the grades, money, or desire to go directly to college.  I joined the Navy to see the world and get the College Fund and GI Bill (its working wonders right now.)  I don't regret a single moment I spent while I was in. 

Here are a few tips:

BE WARNED:  Your recruiter is NOT your friend.  Think of them as car salesmen.  You can't stand 'em, but you still have to deal with them.  Ask about all the enlistment bonuses and college funds you can.  Don't pick what they want you to do.  Look over each job CAREFULLY and THOROUGHLY.  On paper, the military can make a janitor look like a waste management technician.  Its all in the wording so be careful.  Choose your rate, choose your fate.

Also, joining the DEP (Delayed Entry Program) will decrease your time spent in the inactive reserves (if you decide to get out.)  You can also gain rank before your even sworn in by meeting certain criteria.

If you do decide to join, be prepared to do some paperwork.  The military is a finely tune machine of bureaucracy so bring a pen wherever you go.  The motto "Hurry up and wait."  applies heavily in the paperwork department.  You'll spend a whole day or two down at your states MEPS depot filling out the initial paperwork.  Then when you get to boot, you'll spend anywhere from a couple of days to 2 weeks filling out more.

Hope this info helps.
Shit, I spent almost 16 hours at MEPS in one day. I hate that place.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

United States Army Infantry

Hands DOWN

do it. DO IT!
"We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on? "

-Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., USA, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the assault on Grenada, 1983
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7066|London, England
lol, i heard this joke somewhere, forgot where. Might've been another forum.

A Marine was walking wearing his full marine uniform, hat and everything, when he saw a little kid, the little kid asked "Wow are you a marine?" The marine replied "Yes i am, would you like to wear my hat?" the kid put the hat on and walked around all happy pretending to be a marine.

A Navy man, all scruffy, dirty and probably drunk walked upto the kid and said "hey kid, wanna suck my dick?" and the kid replied "No thanks, i'm not really a marine"
lol....why oh why do all the services hate on each other.

And....don't flame the messenger (me). Or kick me into a bottomless pit. That would be madness!

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-06-05 07:50:37)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7075|Washington, DC

Yeah it definitely takes balls to join during wartime, or even during peacetime in days like these. I would've loved being in the military in the 80s. You still get the honor and distinction of having served, but there wasn't anything uber-major in most of the 80s if I'm not mistaken.

Anyways I would think it safer to be in armor than be infantry? I don't know, but being in a 70 ton war-machine sounds a whole lot safer than running around on your feet or in tin-can-mobiles.

I've always entertained the thought of joining one of the branches if I end up doing badly in school, but I've never given it serious thought. Mainly because I'm not fit at all right now. If I was fit though, and knew more about my future, then I'd give it more thought.

If you choose to join the military though, then best of luck man.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7209|Dallas
Fuck that, go USAF like I did.  We have the hottest women and the best food.  Who the fuck wants to sleep in the dirt and fuck Chyna looking wanna-be chicks?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

Cougar wrote:

Who the fuck wants to sleep in the dirt and fuck Chyna looking wanna-be chicks?
Cough...
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7066|London, England
Doesn't the marines have everything though. If BF2 has taught me one thing, is that they have:

M1A2
LAV-25
AH-1Z
Hummers

So, if you're joining them. Doesn't mean you'll be sleeping in dirt fucking Chyna. Or...whatever.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7075|Washington, DC

Mekstizzle wrote:

Doesn't the marines have everything though. If BF2 has taught me one thing, is that they have:

M1A2
LAV-25
AH-1Z
Hummers

So, if you're joining them. Doesn't mean you'll be sleeping in dirt fucking Chyna. Or...whatever.
Lawl no, the Army gets all the fancy-schmancy stuff and the Marines get the fancy or the scmancy stuff, but never the fancy-schmancy stuff.

From what I hear, they do get the nails-for-breakfast eating, gunpowder shitting grunts
LaidBackNinja
Pony Slaystation
+343|7154|Charlie One Alpha

Hurricane wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Doesn't the marines have everything though. If BF2 has taught me one thing, is that they have:

M1A2
LAV-25
AH-1Z
Hummers

So, if you're joining them. Doesn't mean you'll be sleeping in dirt fucking Chyna. Or...whatever.
Lawl no, the Army gets all the fancy-schmancy stuff and the Marines get the fancy or the scmancy stuff, but never the fancy-schmancy stuff.

From what I hear, they do get the nails-for-breakfast eating, gunpowder shitting grunts
Haha, try being in the Dutch army reserves. Sometimes we don't even get ammo.
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Haha, try being in the Dutch army reserves. Sometimes we don't even get ammo.
eh?
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

usmarine2005 wrote:

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Haha, try being in the Dutch army reserves. Sometimes we don't even get ammo.
eh?
Budget for the lose.

Our reserves get lots of ammo, because most of them don't know how to aim.
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7166|Sydney, Australia
As somebody else said, get all the info you can before you do anything. Try and find a govt. website about the service you would consider - for example, here in Australia the website www.defencejobs.gov.au is about the ADF and is run by our government. It has all the info on all the jobs... you can even start the application online. Does the USA have an equivalent?


Mcminty.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

mcminty wrote:

As somebody else said, get all the info you can before you do anything. Try and find a govt. website about the service you would consider - for example, here in Australia the website www.defencejobs.gov.au is about the ADF and is run by our government. It has all the info on all the jobs... you can even start the application online. Does the USA have an equivalent?


Mcminty.
Blackwater?

i dunno, most jobs higher up on the government in the US are held by former military men.
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7166|Sydney, Australia

stryyker wrote:

mcminty wrote:

As somebody else said, get all the info you can before you do anything. Try and find a govt. website about the service you would consider - for example, here in Australia the website www.defencejobs.gov.au is about the ADF and is run by our government. It has all the info on all the jobs... you can even start the application online. Does the USA have an equivalent?
Blackwater?

i dunno, most jobs higher up on the government in the US are held by former military men.
Huh? IIRC blackwater are contractors. The DefJobs website is run by the Australian govt for recruitment of people into the Australian Defence Forces... where'd you get blackwater from?


Mcminty.
Silentkillr69
Member
+6|6623|Chicago
ehh w/e do what you want but remember you have to live with it. i suggest the marines. just my little opinion though.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6935|Menlo Park, CA
The military IS necessary. . .

Teaches boys to be men, and all the while protecting the USA.  The US military is the single most important organization in the world PERIOD!

The USMC in particular is the "Tip of the Spear" as far as conventional forces are concerned.  When the USMC is after you, your in trouble. . . .major league trouble! The combo of superb infantry, air power, and armored capabilities is unrivaled. . . .
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7075|Washington, DC

mcminty wrote:

stryyker wrote:

mcminty wrote:

As somebody else said, get all the info you can before you do anything. Try and find a govt. website about the service you would consider - for example, here in Australia the website www.defencejobs.gov.au is about the ADF and is run by our government. It has all the info on all the jobs... you can even start the application online. Does the USA have an equivalent?
Blackwater?

i dunno, most jobs higher up on the government in the US are held by former military men.
Huh? IIRC blackwater are contractors. The DefJobs website is run by the Australian govt for recruitment of people into the Australian Defence Forces... where'd you get blackwater from?


Mcminty.
I don't see how a government website would be a grand fountain of info for this stuff. They want people to join; of course they'll make it sound lucrative.
agwood
Member
+18|7084|I Fight for Bush !!

Hurricane wrote:

mcminty wrote:

stryyker wrote:

Blackwater?

i dunno, most jobs higher up on the government in the US are held by former military men.
Huh? IIRC blackwater are contractors. The DefJobs website is run by the Australian govt for recruitment of people into the Australian Defence Forces... where'd you get blackwater from?


Mcminty.
I don't see how a government website would be a grand fountain of info for this stuff. They want people to join; of course they'll make it sound lucrative.
simple.. pay attention and follow along....

Air Force Civilian Jobs
https://ww2.afpc.randolph.af.mil/resweb … asp?src=ql

Army Civilian Jobs
https://cpolwapp.belvoir.army.mil/publi … /index.jsp

Department of the Navy Civilian jobs
https://chart.donhr.navy.mil/

Overall US Government Jobs
http://www.usajobs.com/

for the jobs above... good luck... make sure you read the hiring criteria carefully

Contracts = very lucrative these days if you can get in

Blackwater - if you are a shooter you must send a resume (SOF experience is required)
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/employment/contract.asp

L3 Vertex
http://www.l-3vertexcft.com/cft_job_opportunities.htm

Dyncorp recruiting - If you have been through a "Yankee White" Clearance check or hold a "Q" clearance this is the company for you.
http://www.dyncorprecruiting.com/ext/cojobs.asp

Kellog Brown and Root or KBR
http://kbrcareers.webrecruiter.com/pls/ … 03BA74E87F

that should help, while there are plenty more these are some of the biggies

AG
trackstarr
Member
+18|7146|Swing and a miss
That's like part of the point I'm joining the marines

Its tough
i don't want to be kicking it on a ship or airbase
i want to be there

call me crazy
trackstarr
Member
+18|7146|Swing and a miss

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

United States Army Infantry

Hands DOWN

do it. DO IT!
Ignore the heretic.  Isn't it safer to be behind all that nice protective Armor and that bigass cannon?
Yeah fucking armor is the best
but i dont' see myself as a tanker

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