Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7027|Toronto, ON
This is to debunk a bunch of myths I keep reading on the forums.


TOW's CANNOT kill Tanks in 1 hit at full health if it has moved (ie. TOW's can ONLY kill a tank at full health IF and ONLY IF that tank has just spawned and NO ONE has touched it, go and test it out on Dragon Valley if you don't believe me).

Claymores CAN kill drivers of vehicles.

ALL rifles CAN kill in 1 hit if it is to the head, pistols require 2 (3 if it is shot at the helmet).  Knifes require 1 (although the hitboxes are slightly off so sometimes you see the animation but it doesn't actually register).

Grenades CAN kill vehicles and/or drivers of vehicles.

Anti-Tank CAN kill jets in 1 hit.

AT Mines CAN kill boats, just throw the AT Mine INTO the boat.

Smoke Grenades CAN kill if the enemy has 2 or less bars of health.

Same with FlashBangs, Grappling Hooks, and ZipLines.

Some vehicles have a different weapon kill display rather than just displaying xxx[Su-30]yyy.  It's very rare and here's proof for the naysayers: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=193

There DOES exist a different weapon kill display for tanks called [Shell], I have not been able to reproduce this though.

Flashbangs DO affect drivers/passengers of vehicles.

AT Mines CAN be placed onto vehicles to kill them.

Anti-Air can ALWAYS kill choppers/jets in 2 direct hits (assuming no Engineers repairing onboard).

You CAN heal from behind a wall.

You CAN'T repair from behind a wall (but you CAN if you are in a vehicle).

You CAN supply from behind a wall.

There is NO such thing as bullet drop, this is one of the biggest myths.  The bullet does not drop at large distances, it just angles off randomly.  You don't notice it when you are close up but at farther ranges, the degree of deviation starts to be significant.  NO bullet drop.

M95 CAN kill a buggy in 9 hits.
M95 CAN kill an attack chopper in 16 hits.
M95 CAN kill a transport chopper in 17 hits.
M95 CAN kill a jet in 8 hits.
There are NO hotspots for M95-to-vehicle hits (ie. hits to the wheel does not do more or less).

Suicides do NOT detract from your score IF you fall off a building or get killed by your own fast moving vehicle, otherwise C4/Grenade/Explosion will detract.


Hope that helps debunk alot of myths.
Alpha as fuck.
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7057|The Hague, Holland
Hm, you can blow up a tank in 1 hit if you aim for the tires right?
RedFiercare
The Kid
+2|7018
Before you think you know everything about the game, I suggest you stop making know-it-all topics like this one and the "Hack" topic.
Lonewolf
Member
+0|7055
TOW's CANNOT kill Tanks in 1 hit at full health if it has moved (ie. TOW's can ONLY kill a tank at full health IF and ONLY IF that tank has just spawned and NO ONE has touched it, go and test it out on Dragon Valley if you don't believe me).
Yes you can http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/tankhitpoints1.jpg
DoktorRocket
Member
+0|6985
Thanks for the list very helpful. Got a question about this one, though:

Nyte wrote:

There is NO such thing as bullet drop, this is one of the biggest myths.  The bullet does not drop at large distances, it just angles off randomly.  You don't notice it when you are close up but at farther ranges, the degree of deviation starts to be significant.  NO bullet drop.
Playing on Wake, defending against USMC Blackhwaks with a FAV... ever since the 1.12 patch, I've had to aim above the choppers by a good bit to score any hits, especially at long distance. If this is random deviation and NOT bullet drop, I should be able to get the same number of hits by aiming below them, right? But this doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe I should go play a few more rounds to be sure. Just wondering.
CackNBallz
Member
+45|7018|Toronto, Canada
A TOW to the tracks or back of an occupied or empty tank is a one-hit kill.
=DS=Unit92
Member
+0|7016
"Flashbangs DO affect drivers/passengers of vehicles."

Although they shouldn't for pilots of jets and helicopters whom wear visors that enable them to be able to look directly at the sun.
[GDC]SinnFein
Got Whiskey?
+63|7062|Meiriceá - frm 'Real Capital'

Nyte wrote:

There is NO such thing as bullet drop, this is one of the biggest myths.  The bullet does not drop at large distances, it just angles off randomly.  You don't notice it when you are close up but at farther ranges, the degree of deviation starts to be significant.  NO bullet drop.
Well, call me discovery channel usa cause im busting your mythbuster..

Close to 250hrs with a sniper rifle in my hand, 350hrs w/ snipe kit, top 10 in sniper rifle leaderboard <credentials:)>

I'll bust this with just 2 words:

Kubra & Dam......

I know you snipe also nyte, but you need a little more scope time before you could alter what I and others know is a fact.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7027|Toronto, ON
A good way to test out the Bullet Drop Myth.

Land a chopper with a friend in it very far away.

Go to someplace where you can just see the choppers shadow.

Now, aim to either the left or to the right of the chopper and keep shooting that same area.

You'll notice you occassionally score hits on the chopper (you can tell if you hit it when you see the cursor crosshairs change).

Right when someone fires the rifle, the bullet already begins to deviate (but VERY slightly, it is also random but maybe it deviates towards the ground which is why everyone notices 'bullet drop').

Eventually at huge distances, the bullet will have deviated so much that the crosshairs don't exactly mean the bullet goes there, it goes anywhere within the vicinity of it.


But to conclude, that test is a good proof, just shoot to either the left or right (deliberately missing) and you'll score some occassional hits).
Alpha as fuck.
[GDC]SinnFein
Got Whiskey?
+63|7062|Meiriceá - frm 'Real Capital'
good test, makes sense sure... but deviation imho is what new snipers refer to when the miss, a snipe will take his time steady the aim, I donot receive hardly any L/right deviation..

when I make the same shot in Kubra 1/2 dozens times per map from the same exact location to the other side of the valley in the same target spot, I can 1 shot someone every single time w/ my 24, just by aiming a practiced height above thier head. no left/right adjustments necessary just aim above the head (my set amount) and squeeze...

on second thought this topic has been covered too many times, I'll withdraw from continuing the 'drop' post.

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