BF2S Forums Europe's seas Doomed?

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

this is a concern for the whole world, not just Europe

sergeriver wrote:

I suppose Humans activities have nothing to do with issues like Biodiversity Loss and Global Warming.

Sure they do. However, you, through this statement, have asserted via insinuation, that Biodiversidy Loss and Global Warming are related. While this is fine as your opinion, you have no facts to back it up. Especially from the article you cited in the OP.

Now, if you had said, this is for all you fuckers who think humans can't have an impact on the environment, I'd be singing your praises.

p.s. read an interesting piece the other day postulating that the increase in algae growth due to ocean warming would lead to a self regulating cycle with regards to CO₂ in the lower atmosphere, as algae is a CO₂ consumer.

most lakes around here now have been overrun with algae and grasses, huge declines in fish populations too, not related to fishing

this year there are hardly any perch at all where there used to be hundreds, the only ones that are there are small
shorter warmer winters, longer hotter summers = fucked up ecosystem






global warming, human caused or otherwise, fucking sucks >.<

Last edited by krazed (2007-06-08 10:15:14)

Remember people that the plankton in the ocean is what makes over 95% of the world's oxygen. If the seas are shitty we won't be able to breath.

sergeriver wrote:

I suppose Humans activities have nothing to do with issues like Biodiversity Loss and Global Warming.

We also killed the dinosaurs.

It's all our fault.  Humans should pay reparations to nature.  Nature couldn't possibly adjust.  Nothing evolves.  Nope.  We did it all.  I feel bad.  Now where's the keys to my massive V-8 powered grocery getter.  Ah, there they are . . .

Stingray24 wrote:

It's all our fault.  Humans should pay reparations to nature.  Nature couldn't possibly adjust.  Nothing evolves.  Nope.  We did it all.  I feel bad.  Now where's the keys to my massive V-8 powered grocery getter.  Ah, there they are . . .

Well look at it this way sport.

Nature does adjust. Evolution does happen. Few teensy little problems though. First, animals and plants adjusting to new environmental conditions takes time depending on how drastic the change is and how resilient or prolific the animal or plant is. Insects are a good example; most of them breed in such large numbers that the odds are almost always on their side. This is how many pest insect species have managed to develop a resistance to the toxic chemicals we try to kill them with (including DDT, sorry kids). Roaches have been around for millions of years without having to change; they're pretty much perfect at what they do. They can eat almost anything, live in almost any environment and breed in numbers that guarantee surviving offspring resistant to chemical exposure.

Humans don't have that level of resilience.

We're exposed to radiation, we develop cancers. We die. We're exposed to toxic chemicals, we develop syndromes related to the action of those chemicals on our bodies. We die. We're exposed to too much ultraviolet radiation, we develop malignant melanomas. We die. The complexity of our physiology that has allowed us to ascend to the top of the food chain also means we have more parts to break down or malfunction. It also means that because we're at the top of the food chain, everything that ends up other forms of life below us will filter up to us. All of it. The more toxic crap introduced into our environment, the more destabilization of the lower links of the food chain, the greater the cumulative effects will be on us. And that's what it's all about, folks. We're not going to kill the planet. We're going to kill ourselves. We could discharge every nuclear weapon currently stockpiled, open the valves on every storage tank of chemical waste, cut down every forest and pull every last fish from the sea and after all is said and done the planet will still be ticking away here with some kind of life waiting to begin the process anew.

It'll just be doing it without us.

theelviscerator wrote:

Nobody I know could give a flying fuck if europes seas dried up competely..really..they don't care..lolz....

Again it effects every one as a whole.