The_Mac
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CameronPoe wrote:

*yawn*Iran does not want to take over the fucking world. All it wants to do is right the injustice of 1948 when the west imposed Israel on the Islamic world. As such the whole slideshow is pretty pointless.
Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
As previously stated, this does not go in accord to all Muslims, but the fanatical ones would love it.
Now, Iran righting the injustic of 1948 sounds nice--for Iran, but when it details nuking Western US cities and causing general mayhem, as well as spreading more Islamic buhoodle over the place, I say they can shove their injustices up their ass.
Their "injustices" are just excuses to get hearts and minds of people like yourself, as well as rally public nationalistic support from the locals.
GunSlinger OIF II
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The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
so whats the defintion of a christian evangelist?  i hate defending any religion so ill just add a big "Fuck Iran" for good measure
RedTwizzler
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The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
Isn't that really the crux of every religion?
Spark
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The_Mac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

*yawn*Iran does not want to take over the fucking world. All it wants to do is right the injustice of 1948 when the west imposed Israel on the Islamic world. As such the whole slideshow is pretty pointless.
Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
As previously stated, this does not go in accord to all Muslims, but the fanatical ones would love it.
Now, Iran righting the injustic of 1948 sounds nice--for Iran, but when it details nuking Western US cities and causing general mayhem, as well as spreading more Islamic buhoodle over the place, I say they can shove their injustices up their ass.
Their "injustices" are just excuses to get hearts and minds of people like yourself, as well as rally public nationalistic support from the locals.
Got any evidence that Iran is planning such a thing?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
The_Mac
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RedTwizzler wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
Isn't that really the crux of every religion?
With violence and Jihad?

Spark wrote:

Got any evidence that Iran is planning such a thing?
planning what?

Nuking things? Sure, why are they so keen to obtain nukes? Obviously under the idea of power (electricity) is too blatant a lie.
If they want nukes, they're obviously looking for harm, considering they're led by a fanatic.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
so whats the defintion of a christian evangelist?
If you read further on, you'd realize I meant to say with Jihad, which is a violent way of spreading religion, in case you didn't know.

Still though, my mistake, I'll make it clearer for you in the future.

Last edited by The_Mac (2007-06-10 18:45:37)

GunSlinger OIF II
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The_Mac wrote:

Still though, my mistake, I'll make it clearer for you in the future.
k, thanks
DeathBecomesYu
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m3thod wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Indeed.  Shame your slaughtering the wrong people eh?
And which part of our military killed all those people?
The one's that were holding guns.

I don't hold your cooks and shit responsible if that what you wnated to hear.  Do cooks fight? A boiled egg gotta be lethal at terminal velocity right?
Using the word "slaughter" and blaming the U.S. for 300,000 people of Iraq dead is literally shameful. You make it sound like our men and women are doing nothing but killing innocent wherever they can. That they have the look of the devil in their eyes and are heartless and seek out destruction at every corner. Most and I mean MOST of the death comes from elements other than the US military. Most come from people blowing innocent people up in the markets, mosques or where ever they feel they can cause the most damage to the weakest points (unarmed civilians). Do not blame all that death on the people who work there ass off trying to make it a better place. Someday, some of you people will see the good things our men and women are sacrificing their lives for. I personally know people who have fought and died in Iraq and if you would say something like that to their faces...well...it wouldn't be a nice reaction.

One soldier, whom I helped pay for schooling over seas during his senior year in high school, died in Iraq last winter. He had been in Iraq for about 3 months when an RPG shot through his passenger side window where he was sitting and killed him. I recently had a chance to speak with his father and he was damn proud of his son and of what he was doing in Iraq. Of course, no one here understands the good things a lot of these soldiers do and how many Iraqi people do not hate the Americans and are not against the Americans, unless you listen to the media and the Internet. All your info comes from who? How many of you have sat down with a soldier, asked him the questions or talked with family members of those who lost a son or daughter there? Literally...in person, face to face to get the real stories....not media related, you tube, BF2S know-it-alls, but first hand knowledge from real people who have lived and lost in Iraq. Do not put all our soldiers into one biased, negative category of "slaughterers" because you dishonor every man and woman we have lost there. I'm not saying any death is better or worse. Death on both sides is not want anyone truly wants but do not dare generalize men and women who are trying to do their job and die trying to do what they believe is right. That soldier I knew wouldn't have it any other way, he believed in what he was doing and its a shame that somebody in here is calling him what i see here.
GunSlinger OIF II
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I may not entirely agree with m3thod, but I give him kudos for not using the lancet survey for backing up his argument.
usmarine
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I may not entirely agree with m3thod, but I give him kudos for not using the lancet survey for backing up his argument.
...yet.
Doctor Strangelove
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Iran will get nukes and there is nothing we can do about it. However when they get nukes they will NOT use them. If they launch 1 nuke they will have 20 of ours flying straight for them. Iran will never use a nuke.
The_Mac
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doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Iran will get nukes and there is nothing we can do about it. However when they get nukes they will NOT use them. If they launch 1 nuke they will have 20 of ours flying straight for them. Iran will never use a nuke.
Oh don't be so sure. Iran will be sure to exploit  the fact that we don't want any nukes against the U.S. Plus, they're fanatical bastards, they don't care if they get nuked, so long as they get to throw one huge hurting punch at civilization.
Doctor Strangelove
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The_Mac wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

Iran will get nukes and there is nothing we can do about it. However when they get nukes they will NOT use them. If they launch 1 nuke they will have 20 of ours flying straight for them. Iran will never use a nuke.
Oh don't be so sure. Iran will be sure to exploit  the fact that we don't want any nukes against the U.S. Plus, they're fanatical bastards, they don't care if they get nuked, so long as they get to throw one huge hurting punch at civilization.
No. They know the repercussions of using a nuke. They are no where near as fanatical as you think, they will care allot if they get nuked. They will cover it up until they have it, then use it as leverage to get what they want, more control of the ME and a decrease in Israel's grip on Palestine.
Left_hand
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The_Mac wrote:

RedTwizzler wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
Isn't that really the crux of every religion?
With violence and Jihad?

Spark wrote:

Got any evidence that Iran is planning such a thing?
planning what?

Nuking things? Sure, why are they so keen to obtain nukes? Obviously under the idea of power (electricity) is too blatant a lie.
If they want nukes, they're obviously looking for harm, considering they're led by a fanatic.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
so whats the defintion of a christian evangelist?
If you read further on, you'd realize I meant to say with Jihad, which is a violent way of spreading religion, in case you didn't know.

Still though, my mistake, I'll make it clearer for you in the future.
You need to look up 'Jihad'.
rawls2
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m3thod wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Indeed.  Shame your slaughtering the wrong people eh?
And which part of our military killed all those people?
The one's that were holding guns.

I don't hold your cooks and shit responsible if that what you wnated to hear.  Do cooks fight? A boiled egg gotta be lethal at terminal velocity right?
We killed 250k-350k? Well add that to the number killed by Arab bombs and guns and the number must go way past a million, right? Don't be retarded and count insurgency murders to the damage the US military has done.
M.O.A.B
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m3thod wrote:

David.Podedworny wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Okay, 250-350K Iraqis dead.   Take ur pick Davo.
Still you dont fuck with our people.
Indeed.  Shame your slaughtering the wrong people eh?
Actually I believe its Iraqis slaughtering other Iraqis, not US/UK troops and their Allies slaughtering Iraqis.
The number of people killed as a result of coalition combat ops is minimal compare to car bombs and the like.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-11 10:53:45)

m3thod
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Y'all stop getting your panties in a twist.  I will correct it.

Shame the wrong people are being slaughtered.  There you go, lovely jubbley, happy days.

But one can argue the failure of the US military to secure Iraq means it is ultimately culpable for the ensuing hell and therefore must bear some responsibility for the deaths culminated even though it's hasn't personally pulled the trigger.  But that's another argument and I'm too busy working.

@ USMarine76...Lancet is wrong, thats been proven.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-06-11 14:18:56)

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usmarine
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m3thod wrote:

@ USMarine76...Lancet is wrong, that's been proven.
Ya I know.

76?
m3thod
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usmarine2005 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

@ USMarine76...Lancet is wrong, that's been proven.
Ya I know.

76?
just messing about with the years at the end of your name.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Stingray24
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CameronPoe wrote:

They just want to be kings of their own little patch of turf - the middle east, the Islamic world. It's them v Saudi Arabia. If you think they have ambitions of invading Europe or any other such nonsense then frankly you're deluded. They want to destroy Israel, nobody else.
Since you condemn US action in Iraq, surely you would condemn Iranian action against Israel.
m3thod
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Stingray24 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

They just want to be kings of their own little patch of turf - the middle east, the Islamic world. It's them v Saudi Arabia. If you think they have ambitions of invading Europe or any other such nonsense then frankly you're deluded. They want to destroy Israel, nobody else.
Since you condemn US action in Iraq, surely you would condemn Iranian action against Israel.
Iranian action?

It's just a load of hot air and poor tranlation of Armajeniad(sp) or have i missed something?
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Stingray24
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Please refer to the “right the injustice of 1948 when the west imposed Israel on the Islamic world” bs on post #9 of this thread.  Just checking CPoe’s position if Iran “would” attack Israel.   

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
so whats the defintion of a christian evangelist?  i hate defending any religion so ill just add a big "Fuck Iran" for good measure
Christian evangelist: one spreading his faith without a gun.  Forced conversions ended hundreds of years ago for Christianity.  Islam hasn't caught up to this century yet in that regard.
CameronPoe
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The_Mac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

*yawn*Iran does not want to take over the fucking world. All it wants to do is right the injustice of 1948 when the west imposed Israel on the Islamic world. As such the whole slideshow is pretty pointless.
Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
As previously stated, this does not go in accord to all Muslims, but the fanatical ones would love it.
Now, Iran righting the injustic of 1948 sounds nice--for Iran, but when it details nuking Western US cities and causing general mayhem, as well as spreading more Islamic buhoodle over the place, I say they can shove their injustices up their ass.
Their "injustices" are just excuses to get hearts and minds of people like yourself, as well as rally public nationalistic support from the locals.
Wow. US propaganda must be more effective than I had thought.
CameronPoe
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Stingray24 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

They just want to be kings of their own little patch of turf - the middle east, the Islamic world. It's them v Saudi Arabia. If you think they have ambitions of invading Europe or any other such nonsense then frankly you're deluded. They want to destroy Israel, nobody else.
Since you condemn US action in Iraq, surely you would condemn Iranian action against Israel.
Erm, duh! Why would I endorse the wholesale slaughter of circa 6 million people? I'd endorse conventional military action against military targets but that's about the height of it.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-06-11 15:07:30)

XanKrieger
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CameronPoe wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

*yawn*Iran does not want to take over the fucking world. All it wants to do is right the injustice of 1948 when the west imposed Israel on the Islamic world. As such the whole slideshow is pretty pointless.
Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
As previously stated, this does not go in accord to all Muslims, but the fanatical ones would love it.
Now, Iran righting the injustic of 1948 sounds nice--for Iran, but when it details nuking Western US cities and causing general mayhem, as well as spreading more Islamic buhoodle over the place, I say they can shove their injustices up their ass.
Their "injustices" are just excuses to get hearts and minds of people like yourself, as well as rally public nationalistic support from the locals.
Wow. US propaganda must be more effective than I had thought.
While I would also put it that way, This is the general informed opinon of most people who have yet to broaden their horizons on the Iran issue, however that said, with the benefit of the doubt given a few points there do hold some truth to them from a certain point of view (Or entirely warped one)
Spark
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The_Mac wrote:

RedTwizzler wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
Isn't that really the crux of every religion?
With violence and Jihad?
Look up jihad - you clearly have no idea what it means.

Spark wrote:

Got any evidence that Iran is planning such a thing?
planning what?

Nuking things? Sure, why are they so keen to obtain nukes? Obviously under the idea of power (electricity) is too blatant a lie.
If they want nukes, they're obviously looking for harm, considering they're led by a fanatic.
Ahmedinijad is not a fanatic. He is a very clever, very deceptive politician. The whole nuclear business is a very clever smokescreen IMO for the real troubles in Iran (such as an unemployment rate of 11% and chronic and quite alarming defecits), and a clever way to unite Iran in what ordinary people see is attempted inteference in their country.

Iran is decades away from a nuclear bomb, and still several years from a functioning power reactor (you need one before you can make a bomb) - surely you can understand how little they've achieved thus far in comparison to the requirements.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Uhmm, Iran is controlled by Islamic extremists, and if you know anything about Islam, you'd know that its principle doctrine is to spread the word of Allah to the world.
so whats the defintion of a christian evangelist?
If you read further on, you'd realize I meant to say with Jihad, which is a violent way of spreading religion, in case you didn't know.

Still though, my mistake, I'll make it clearer for you in the future.
Once again - look up jihad.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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