Why not cut foreign aid to "fix" global warming?

2007-06-12 12:05:51

#1

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

This is not a debate over if Global warming exists or not(I personally do not beleive in it) but if it does exist, why dont we cut all foerign aid, and for all you war haters, pull out of Iraq/Middle east (not a debate about that either) and use all the funds to support Global Warming prevention? This goes for ALL countries, not just the U.S. If Global Warming is going to effect the globe, why do we need to support struggling countries when the money is obviously much more needed on a global scale? Why give money to Africa, if it wont be around much longer? Ive thought about this, and its makes a lot of sense. No need giving money to support others and for non Global Warming prevention causes if theres not going to be people/places to support if this prophecy of destruction occurs. What are your thoughts on this?

NOTICE: This is not D&ST, I did not mean this a debate over Global Warmings existence, just more of a hypothetical question, nothing more.

2007-06-12 12:08:08

#2

Anfidurl: Use the bumper, that's what its for!; +103|7063|Lexington, Kentucky

Honestly, I think this needs to be D&ST, even if the Global Warming hypothetical isn't discussed. =P

2007-06-12 12:10:46

#3

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

Anfidurl wrote:
Honestly, I think this needs to be D&ST, even if the Global Warming hypothetical isn't discussed. =P

Eh, they got plently of Global Warming topics over there Besides that many topics turn to flame wars over there...

2007-06-12 12:51:52

#4

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7186

This is how the theory of Global Warming is hurting the economies of African nations trying to grow.

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2007-06-12 12:53:07

#5

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7035|Area 51

I never understood why they kept giving money to countries in Africa anyway, use the money on better research on how to solve Global Warming!

2007-06-12 12:56:25

#6

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7037|NYC / Hamburg

makes sense to me, especially since I consider foreign aid to africa a complete waste

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2007-06-12 13:03:28

#7

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

RDMC(2) wrote:
I never understood why they kept giving money to countries in Africa anyway, use the money on better research on how to solve Global Warming!

max wrote:
makes sense to me, especially since I consider foreign aid to africa a complete waste

Im not jsut considering Africa, Im including all foreign aid, like that to Asia, Europe, Middle East, Etc,Etc. Africa jsut being a hotbed of recent support.

2007-06-12 13:06:06

#8

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7037|NYC / Hamburg

r2zoo wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:
I never understood why they kept giving money to countries in Africa anyway, use the money on better research on how to solve Global Warming!
max wrote:
makes sense to me, especially since I consider foreign aid to africa a complete waste
Im not jsut considering Africa, Im including all foreign aid, like that to Asia, Europe, Middle East, Etc,Etc. Africa jsut being a hotbed of recent support.

yeah, same thing. I meant the whole world

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2007-06-12 13:06:32

#9

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|7012|Texas - Bigger than France

Suicide pact anyone?

2007-06-12 13:07:45

#10

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,993|7102|949

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
This is how the theory of Global Warming is hurting the economies of African nations trying to grow.

The "Global Warming Debate" affects African (and any industrially-developing country) because many organizations would like to see these industrial-developing nations held to the same emissions standards as more industrialized countries.

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2007-06-12 13:10:09

#11

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
This is how the theory of Global Warming is hurting the economies of African nations trying to grow.
The "Global Warming Debate" affects African (and any industrially-developing country) because many organizations would like to see these industrial-developing nations held to the same emissions standards as more industrialized countries.

Well, they want developing nations to be held to the same standards as countries well established with a much larger budget, but now were getting off topic.

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2007-06-12 13:16:40

#12

RECONDO67: Member; +60|7106|miami FL

honestly the aid given to this countries its not much it might sound like lots but in reality its very little.
I feel the global warning could get fixed simply by making smaller vehicles that run on cleaner fuels like ethanol or hybrid cars with batteries.

2007-06-12 13:48:11

#13

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

RECONDO67 wrote:
honestly the aid given to this countries its not much it might sound like lots but in reality its very little.
I feel the global warning could get fixed simply by making smaller vehicles that run on cleaner fuels like ethanol or hybrid cars with batteries.

Ah, but it is still millions of dollars. My point is, is if this is such a serious threat then why accolate any amount of resources into unesscary programs when it could be used for "Anti-Global Warming" research, etc?

2007-06-12 13:51:10

#14

Retalliation[1337]: Robin Hood ---> "u got arrownd"; +51|6944|Belgium

What would be best is:1 we teach the people there some trades so they can make their own money/find their own food---- if we keep dropping supplies/financial aid they get more dependent...
2:use the money for global warming seems a great idea

/mods please move this to d and st please seems quite relevant

2007-06-12 14:00:04

#15

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,993|7102|949

r2zoo wrote:
RECONDO67 wrote:
honestly the aid given to this countries its not much it might sound like lots but in reality its very little.
I feel the global warning could get fixed simply by making smaller vehicles that run on cleaner fuels like ethanol or hybrid cars with batteries.
Ah, but it is still millions of dollars. My point is, is if this is such a serious threat then why accolate any amount of resources into unesscary programs when it could be used for "Anti-Global Warming" research, etc?

It is a serious threat. But not right now. People (humans in general) love to come up with expedient answers to world problems. Instead of focusing on reducing our global footprint (as humans), we would rather just go and buy an "energy efficient" lightbulb, recycle the 24 pack of soda, and claim that we are doing our part.

This problem (destruction of our habitat) is a long term problem that will need to be tackled using long term solutions mixed in with short term solutions.

Why is it that we can approve of $100 billion in debt spending for a war, but need to cut aid to foreign countries to deal with emissions?

2007-06-12 14:02:34

#16

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6963|N. Ireland

this is not junk drawer material.

2007-06-12 14:05:59

#17

r2zoo: Knowledge is power, guard it well; +126|7066|Michigan, USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
r2zoo wrote:
RECONDO67 wrote:
honestly the aid given to this countries its not much it might sound like lots but in reality its very little.
I feel the global warning could get fixed simply by making smaller vehicles that run on cleaner fuels like ethanol or hybrid cars with batteries.
Ah, but it is still millions of dollars. My point is, is if this is such a serious threat then why accolate any amount of resources into unesscary programs when it could be used for "Anti-Global Warming" research, etc?
It is a serious threat. But not right now. People (humans in general) love to come up with expedient answers to world problems. Instead of focusing on reducing our global footprint (as humans), we would rather just go and buy an "energy efficient" lightbulb, recycle the 24 pack of soda, and claim that we are doing our part.

This problem (destruction of our habitat) is a long term problem that will need to be tackled using long term solutions mixed in with short term solutions.

Why is it that we can approve of $100 billion in debt spending for a war, but need to cut aid to foreign countries to deal with emissions?

If you read the orginal post, I did cover that. I personally dont subscribe to any global warming theory, so I dont see the importance of cutting some things others might(not here to debate the question of GWs existence). As for cutting aid to Africa, and all our other dependents, it is currently not essential to our country(you can claim the war is or isnt, but thats up to an opinion). Im not just referring to America, Im referring to other countries as well.

Last edited by r2zoo (2007-06-12 14:06:40)

2007-06-12 14:14:37

#18

bennisboy: Member; +829|7116|Poundland

Because by cutting aid to them, we are narrowing their chances of development. Global warming is not the real problem, its overpoulation that is resulting in high carbon emissions and massive use of fossil fuels. I'm sure if you ask any of the countries that are supposedly going to be the worse effected by climate change (the majority being developing countries) they would rather have aid than research on combatting global warming.

Final point:
If your going to cut aid, it should be because we have written off the third world debt, so they wouldnt need aid anymore. The main reason they need aid is because most of the developing countries GDP is going into paying back just the interest on their debts

2007-06-12 14:17:22

#19

bennisboy: Member; +829|7116|Poundland

r2zoo wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
r2zoo wrote:

Ah, but it is still millions of dollars. My point is, is if this is such a serious threat then why accolate any amount of resources into unesscary programs when it could be used for "Anti-Global Warming" research, etc?
It is a serious threat. But not right now. People (humans in general) love to come up with expedient answers to world problems. Instead of focusing on reducing our global footprint (as humans), we would rather just go and buy an "energy efficient" lightbulb, recycle the 24 pack of soda, and claim that we are doing our part.

This problem (destruction of our habitat) is a long term problem that will need to be tackled using long term solutions mixed in with short term solutions.

Why is it that we can approve of $100 billion in debt spending for a war, but need to cut aid to foreign countries to deal with emissions?
If you read the orginal post, I did cover that. I personally dont subscribe to any global warming theory, so I dont see the importance of cutting some things others might(not here to debate the question of GWs existence). As for cutting aid to Africa, and all our other dependents, it is currently not essential to our country(you can claim the war is or isnt, but thats up to an opinion). Im not just referring to America, Im referring to other countries as well.

you say millions of dollars, its a lot more, but still only a fraction of the USA GDP, according to statistics, as a proportion of GDP, the USA is giving the smallest amount of aid out of all the developed nations(less than 5%). Scandinavian nations are giving the most as a proprtion of their GDP

2007-06-12 14:46:33

#20

XanKrieger: iLurk; +60|7128|South West England

This isnt a D&ST, ergo, i wont go on about the why.

But i'l simply say "World > Africa" we gotta sort our world out first before, a country that despite every effort continues to get fucked by a corrupt goverment

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