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Probably the most (definately) legit knife kills; http://bf2s.com/player/inhis/

Proud to be finnish. smile



im sorry, but that guy is obviously a stat padder. OBVIOUSLY

Last edited by Shennanigans (2006-03-30 15:41:10)

w00t, Since I'm really mostly a sniper, I usually have my knife out.

So 809 knife kills ftw! lol

Shennanigans wrote:

Probably the most (definately) legit knife kills; http://bf2s.com/player/inhis/

Proud to be finnish. smile



im sorry, but that guy is obviously a stat padder. OBVIOUSLY

Did you read my post at all? How is it so obvious? Before making accusations why dont you share your facts/speculation why is it so obvious stat padder scores? The truth is that I havent been stat padding ever. If there is a support in the squad then I often reload the weapon but thats not padding its just using full clip when you have the chance to get ammo. I just dont see any logical reason for stat padding since the kill/point doesnt have a meaning when padded. Now I can write you a book how I knifed over 7k people with a squad of insane people and THAT is what matters: great social memories of fun and even hysterical events with BF2.

Just check the other top knifers they have KPM (kills per minute) with knife of over 2 and over _5_ how is that possible? His overall KPM is 0.83 and with a knife is over 5. I have less than 1 knife kill per minute. As far as I can see it when knife kills is as much as 5k its impossible to kill 5 guys per minute and use any other gun. You could do it if you had less knife kills but no, this is not possible in a normal game. I cant believe there is someone who is like 5 times better than I am since my record is 20 knife kills without deaths in a minute or two. This happened at the map warlord in the palace when nAru-_o used tear gas in the lower flag and there was a common chaos and one mad knifer behind the tear gas fumes. This happened in 1.2. (Meaning without dolphin dive if i may add)

I have racked up 1,500 + knife kills using many of the same tactics as Inhis.  It takes practice and like he was saying it helps to have someone along side helping you.

I have gotten 18+ knife kills in at least 3 rounds and could get more if I choose.  I just love the thrill of chasing a guy who has used all of his assault rifle ammo, and is trying to kill me with a pistol. 

Have been working on my shock paddle kills recently.

terrafirma wrote:

I have racked up 1,500 + knife kills using many of the same tactics as Inhis.  It takes practice and like he was saying it helps to have someone along side helping you.

I have gotten 18+ knife kills in at least 3 rounds and could get more if I choose.  I just love the thrill of chasing a guy who has used all of his assault rifle ammo, and is trying to kill me with a pistol. 

Have been working on my shock paddle kills recently.

When using the knife over and over you are magically hitting more often, getting the timing right. With a small group of players in BF2 everything is possible. Its not only about the tear gas and flashbang assistance, its also luring the enemies in a trap. I often as a medic dodge bullets behind some obstacle and let the other squad member make the knife kill when the opponent is shooting at me/runs out of ammo. They drool over the "easy kill" because im not shooting back and suddenly they are stabbed or shock paddled by naru. It was totally hilarious once there was such a person who NEVER learned that tactic. It worked like 10 times or more in a row, always the other person dodging bullets and everytime he got knifed. He even started chucking grenades because he couldnt kill us with a gun but even that failed since grenades are pretty easy to predict.

Chasing really is fun, but it seems we are seeing chase a bit different. Once in songhua stalemate I chased a sniper all over the map in the jungles like 5 minutes or so, dont remember, damn was he fast and sometimes he was checking his back and I had to hide behind the bushes in the jungle and again he was running like mad. In the end the chase was rewarded with a knife kill but was I close to just giving up and shooting. Maybe this is why I have such a low KPM. In the end it was lots of fun im such a fan of first person shooters where you can sneak past the enemies and dont have to kill them.

For more thrill I sometimes go behind a spawning point and when someone spawns I try to keep myself behind his back and not killing him (I hate spawn killing). This has sometimes helped me to get in better positions because the opponents becomes confused when there is someone different but no one is shooting each other, then they figure out who the bastard is and everybody starts shooting each other, as I am using the opponents as a cover. This really is a good tactic if you are quick to read the situation: Go behind the person who hasnt spotted/understood that you are the enemy, the person who has seen you is forced to choose between firing his temmate or letting you live.  All happens so quick so you have to be extremely fast doing this (decision making and keeping yourself in cover). If the opponent starts to hesitate even a blink second and is close enough: knife your cover and knife the person who hesitated. Its the most thrilling feeling in the game for me at least when this is succeeded, but most of the time I fail because enemies are like "A KILL!!" and they shoot me through their temmates
Ok even if this happens im laughing my ass off.

New shock paddle system sucks, doesnt it?
nAru-_o used to be such a badass shock paddler too. Now he is kind of using it only in the "sure kill" situations since he cant afford to miss many times because then there would be no heal kits. "Wait im recharging, just wait a little and I shock paddle you to death" its totally hilarious to be saying such a thing to  enemy, we are so easily amused.

Papa Smurf 314: I have also taken knife duels with Blazin.UK during a normal public battle at least in mashtuur city map at PTG city maps only server. He is pretty eager to take up the knife challenge, I dont remember correctly the outcome since it was a long time ago, I guess it was pretty evenly matched I remember that he knifed me at least once I cant remember how many times I knifed him. He started taking up the knife when I sneaked upon on him a few times. Blazin used just the knife and trusted that he wasnt shot at, even if there was some of my squad members watching the match throwing medpacs at him. This may be also uncorrect information, there maybe was another person who were "a good sport". Anyway Blazin.UK was pretty amazing for taking up the challenge.

Does anyone know why knife and shock paddles are not ranked in the BFHQ?


edit: I just figured it out, I have such a low KPM because it is counting it from the time I have used the knife to the kills. Of course a person who runs all the time knife equipped cant get a good KPM if its counted this way. I guess they are all honest players except for the top 2 [ESO]shadow who has a kill streak of 185 and favourite victim of [ESO]braindead (93). As you can see I dont have such a favourite victim.

Last edited by Inhis (2006-03-31 00:17:25)

Inhis wrote:

Shennanigans wrote:

Probably the most (definately) legit knife kills; http://bf2s.com/player/inhis/

Proud to be finnish. smile

im sorry, but that guy is obviously a stat padder. OBVIOUSLY

Did you read my post at all? How is it so obvious? Before making accusations why dont you share your facts/speculation why is it so obvious stat padder scores?

I'm sorry but I would interpret the stats the same way. You have 438 defibrilator deaths - that's one of the things that would make me instantly suspect that there was a lot of play on knife + pistol servers.

You have to multiply my global score by 7 to approximate yours and if you do the same with other stats I would have only 280 deaths by defib... but in reality it will be a lot lower than this by the time I'm 80,000+ since I have played on knife + pistol servers and most of my deaths by cardiac arrest were on those.

This is before we even get to the number of knife deaths... if you multiply mine up it comes to approximately an eighth of yours. That is, as they say in the trade, "statistically significant".

Now you're obviously a good player - your K/D ratios speak to that - but the stats listed above would make anyone with the least cynical bone in their body a mite suspicious

Inhis - just leave that guy... u dont need to justify urself against idiots

anyway - in reference to the defrib deaths.... so wat!? i have 222 deaths with less than half his time as defrib. its the number of times u were killed with the weapon out, not how many times u've been killed by that weapon
please think before posting and making urself look like an idiot

Those statistics with the knife are very suspicious indeed Inhis. Considering you have just about as many knife kills as I have chopper kills. I am very good at the chopper, and the chopper is a killing machine.

Inhis wrote:

Or were you thinking I am killed by shock paddles that many times?

Yes, that's what I thought - my bad sorry. On knife + pistol servers there is a lot of shock-paddle killing.

Hugh_Jasss wrote:

its the number of times u were killed with the weapon out, not how many times u've been killed by that weapon

Mistake on my part, please ignore my ignorance

Hugh_Jasss wrote:

Inhis - just leave that guy... u dont need to justify urself against idiots

Thank you for the support. It seems he just made a natural mistake, I was amazed when I started the game, I had like 20 deaths with shock paddles and I didnt remember dying once by a shock paddle, then I figured it out. So I used to be as ignorant, there is no wrong in that. Just be more careful with the "submit" button.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Those statistics with the knife are very suspicious indeed Inhis. Considering you have just about as many knife kills as I have chopper kills. I am very good at the chopper, and the chopper is a killing machine.

But I like to justify myself, since I have explanation to every situation and I like to make lengthy posts to bore you to death.

To this I was first thinking about replying just "knife is a killing machine in my hands " but I guess you wont be bored enough with that as a reply so I take a look at your stats too to think about the longer version.

Firstly you must see that im not using a lot of vehicles. That means im most of the time as infantry and im always looking for opportunity to kill a lot of people with a knife. While im doing this you can either be waiting for your chopper or killing people with the chopper, it doesnt really matter because you dont always get to be in a chopper, and there are maps where there are no choppers. You have played a lot of karkand, meaning a lot of your time is not in a chopper. If you were looking at my 129 hours of knife using and comparing it to your 166 hours of chopper using its not really accurate because I dont always run around with a knife. If there is no UAV I use the gun until I spot a person who hasnt seen me, if situation is too tough for the knife then I must shoot, otherwise I grab the knife. As a result there becomes more gun using time than knife using time but luckily a lot of knife kills. Its not rare to me at all to get enough kills for expert knife badge (18) per round and I so would like to know my best round with a knife because its probably more than 30 knife kills. So you may be getting 50 kills with a chopper in one round but in about 2-3 rounds I close up the gap if its going good for me. So you may think about my knife using time is 368 hours if we compare it to your 166 hours we get enough rounds to close in the gap, but you even with that have more chopper kills than I have knife kills.

By historical rate: At the time I have used chopper as much as you, I will be having 2k more kills than you with a chopper. So it seems you are not getting 50 kills per round with chopper anyway, since I dont get that much very often either. And it may be possible that I will close the gap completely and will have more knife kills than you have chopper kills, all it takes a little bit of time.
If its so embarrassing, go for the chopper and I guarantee you that if you keep whoring with it I wont reach you.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Well out of my 166 hours or so I'd say 20-35 hours have been spent actually gunning. I usually fly and I'm not selfish if I have a good gunner.

Wow, wait a minute. So this your reply is about you justifying how you dont have so much chopper kills? So if you are not selfish and not killing as much with chopper as you could then how is it so unbelieveable to me have almost as much knife kills? You already forgot what were you complaining about just to protect your "great pilot status"? Yes you do have a lot of driver points and that most likely makes you a good pilot but all you just said is just helping me to prove my point. You are doing a great job of making an total ass out of yourself.

Inhis wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Well out of my 166 hours or so I'd say 20-35 hours have been spent actually gunning. I usually fly and I'm not selfish if I have a good gunner.

Wow, wait a minute. So this your reply is about you justifying how you dont have so much chopper kills? So if you are not selfish and not killing as much with chopper as you could then how is it so unbelieveable to me have almost as much knife kills? You already forgot what were you complaining about just to protect your "great pilot status"? Yes you do have a lot of driver points and that most likely makes you a good pilot but all you just said is just helping me to prove my point. You are doing a great job of making an total ass out of yourself.

Woah, I thought we were being civil about this. Yes I was justifying my chopper skills but so what. When somebody insults something I'm proud of it really irritates me. You should feel good about your knife stats if you know you earned them. It's just that knife kills can be really hard to get at times. Chopper kills are always easy. You can see why it's still hard to believe.