sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7202|Argentina
Imagine Truman never dropped the bombs, who would have been the first country to do it, when and why?
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6735|Éire
Were the Germans not worryingly close to fully developing the technology back then?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7202|Argentina

Braddock wrote:

Were the Germans not worryingly close to fully developing the technology back then?
At the time Truman dropped the bombs, the Germans were defeated.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7026|SE London

Quite possibly no one. Either that or the the Cold War would've been a bit warmer.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7161

Bertster7 wrote:

Quite possibly no one. Either that or the the Cold War would've been a bit warmer.
Cold war would be warm for a summer, but winter for the next decade.
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howler_27
Member
+90|7132
I would have bet on Nikita Khrushchev.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6982|Long Island, New York
Nobody. The only reason why Russia got the nuke was because they had spies. If there was nothing to spy about...well...you get my point.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6891|Chicago, IL
Probably nobody, the russians would never have known about it, and We have had no other reason to drop it.
I still believe Truman did the right thing though.
topal63
. . .
+533|7163
Possibly no one.
weasel_thingo
Member
+74|6771

Poseidon wrote:

Nobody. The only reason why Russia got the nuke was because they had spies. If there was nothing to spy about...well...you get my point.
it would eventually get made anyway.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

I think Iran would have nuked Iraq......or vice versa back in the day.
Lisik
Member
+74|6945|Israel
Saddam Husein
JahManRed
wank
+646|7073|IRELAND

No one would have nuked anyone, nothing would be different today.

The video footage of a nuke going off is enough to scare the shit out of a country and ensure that the threat of Mutually assured destruction hangs over them.
Brodie321
Member
+0|6601|Kansas City, MO
I was thinking about just saying no one else would have, but then I started thinking and it might be a little more complicated than that.  If Truman hadn't used the atomic bomb, the U.S. would have had to spend many years conquering all of Japan and completely destroying their military because they wouldn't have surrendered otherwise.  The toll this could have left on the U.S. military and economy could have left them vulnerable and since Germany probably still would have been divided in a similar manner, the Cold War would still have started, but Russia would not have feared the U.S. the way they had and possibly attacked.  Maybe they would have been strong enough to simply overwhelm American forces or maybe they would have used the nuke.  Or maybe when they attacked, the U.S. would have counterstriked with a nuke and then the Russians launch one back...nuclear winter.  So, its possible that if Truman hadn't used the atomic bomb we could all be dead or we could all be Communist.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6668|Escea

It would have been Fiji, don't deny it.
I don't know, Britain maybe?
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6890|The Land of Scott Walker

Braddock wrote:

Were the Germans not worryingly close to fully developing the technology back then?
Yes.  I remember something about Germany having "heavy water".  Can't recall the name of the spot where they were developing it.  Seems like it was in Norway if I recall correctly.  A couple more years added to WW2 and I think we'd have been worrying about German atomic bombs.

Edit: Found it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_ … r_sabotage

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-06-20 11:46:47)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6668|Escea

Stingray24 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Were the Germans not worryingly close to fully developing the technology back then?
Yes.  I remember something about Germany having "heavy water".  Can't recall the name of the spot where they were developing it.  Seems like it was in Norway if I recall correctly.  A couple more years added to WW2 and I think we'd have been worrying about German atomic bombs.
Yep it was Telemark (I think) in Norway, but the plant was crippled by Norwegian resistance fighters (I think again) which hindered their research.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6890|The Land of Scott Walker
Correct.  The Norwegians took it out.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7026|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

Correct.  The Norwegians took it out.
They did indeed. There's a great Ray Mears (absolute legend) program all about it.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7273
Honestly this is a stupid question. Just my opinion though.
venom6
Since day One.
+247|7003|Hungary
Albert Einstein = German
America only stole all german scientists so the a-bomb is not an "american" invention like all the other 3123124124 things what they list as "so american" sorry but its truth !
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

venom6 wrote:

Albert Einstein = German
America only stole all german scientists so the a-bomb is not an "american" invention like all the other 3123124124 things what they list as "so american" sorry but its truth !
Well, to be fair, it takes money and resources to build and test a nuke right?  Hitler prolly would have thrown him in jail or killed him for some stupid reason.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7066|London, England
Whatever war that was after WW2 that involved someone with a nuke. Would've been a shiny new toy that had never been used in combat. Nobody would be scared of them if they never saw how it was outside of testing in some backwards desert.
daddyofdeath
A REAL Combat Engineer in the house
+187|6698|UK Bradford W,Yorks. Age 27
Most probably Krushchev from Cuba on America. Scary times apparently.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6668|Escea

venom6 wrote:

Albert Einstein = German
America only stole all German scientists so the a-bomb is not an "American" invention like all the other 3123124124 things what they list as "so American" sorry but its truth !
Well the Harrier was a British plane, but the US was first to implement it, without the US acquiring the plane its unlikely it would be in service today.

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