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What Should a Country Do?

A-Always the right thing no matter the consequences	27%	27% - 6
B-The best in its own interests	59%	59% - 13
C-Other	13%	13% - 3
Total: 22

2007-06-22 05:02:23

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7202|Argentina

Let's suppose Country A supports country B. Then there's country C which wants to attack and destroy country B. If country A doesn't get involved country B would have to deal with country C alone. If country A gets involved, country B would be much more safer, but the National Security of country A would be seriously compromised. The president of country A has to take a decision between the security of a foreign country or the security of his own country. In the poll option A means country A decides to help country B, compromising the security of its own citizens, and option B means country A decides not to help country B, because that would make country C and its allies to hate and attack country A.
What should country A do?
What is more important? Your country's security or other country's security?
Is morality involved here? How? If country A choose not to help country B is country A wrong?

2007-06-22 10:55:47

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7206

Serge buddy..

A = USA

B = Israel

C = Iran...erm Palestine and Lebanon.

Come on man.

2007-06-22 13:02:14

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7202|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
Serge buddy..

A = USA

B = Israel

C = Iran...erm Palestine and Lebanon.

Come on man.

This poll never was meant to be subtle.

2007-06-22 15:14:39

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6850|North Carolina

Fuck countries B & C. Country A is all that matters.

2007-06-22 15:17:18

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|7090

Turquoise wrote:
Fuck countries B & C. Country A is all that matters.

I think country D should get involved and pawn the other countries.

Just kidding well... not sure country A and B should support each other and screw country C I guess.

Last edited by blademaster (2007-06-22 15:23:45)

2007-06-22 15:21:17

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6850|North Carolina

blademaster wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Fuck countries B & C. Country A is all that matters.
I think country D should get involved and pawn the other countries.

Just kidding well... not sure country A and be should support each other and screw country C I guess.

That could work, but it depends on if C really has an effect on A. If the countries mentioned earlier were part of this analogy, then I'd say Iran will have very little effect on us if we leave Iraq. They'll always have an effect on Israel, but Israel can go screw itself -- so can the Palestinians.

2007-06-22 15:40:18

David.P: Banned; +649|6719

blademaster wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Fuck countries B & C. Country A is all that matters.
I think country D should get involved and pawn the other countries.

Just kidding well... not sure country A and B should support each other and screw country C I guess.

Is country D Australia?

2007-06-22 15:45:07

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|7090

David.Podedworny wrote:
blademaster wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Fuck countries B & C. Country A is all that matters.
I think country D should get involved and pawn the other countries.

Just kidding well... not sure country A and B should support each other and screw country C I guess.
Is country D Australia?

lol it can be if it makes you happy

2007-06-22 15:46:33

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6668|Escea

Country D is Ireland don't ya know

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-22 15:46:43)

2007-06-22 17:03:17

maffiaw: ph33r me 傻逼; +40|6865|Melbourne, AUS

This shouldn't have even been brought to a poll.
Churchill once said something along the lines of : there are no definite friends in international politics, only one's own national interest.
It's common sense that countries only act appropriately when it would benefit their own national interest. Any other reason given is simply a 'feel good' mechanism to make the people feel better about what they are doing.
No one country is going to sacrifice for any other. A cynical as it may seem, it's the dark world of international politics/relations I'm afraid.

2007-06-22 17:32:12

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|7110|NT, like Mick Dundee

maffiaw wrote:
This shouldn't have even been brought to a poll.
Churchill once said something along the lines of : there are no definite friends in international politics, only one's own national interest.
It's common sense that countries only act appropriately when it would benefit their own national interest. Any other reason given is simply a 'feel good' mechanism to make the people feel better about what they are doing.
No one country is going to sacrifice for any other. A cynical as it may seem, it's the dark world of international politics/relations I'm afraid.

Why does the USA help Israel so much then... I'm failing so see the benefits myself.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2007-06-22 17:35:20

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7206

Flecco wrote:
Why does the USA help Israel so much then

Are you serious?

Have a look at how many Jews there are in the US.

2007-06-22 18:00:18

BVC: Member; +325|7140

Country E is happy not to be involved.

2007-06-22 20:49:14

maffiaw: ph33r me 傻逼; +40|6865|Melbourne, AUS

usmarine2005 wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Why does the USA help Israel so much then
Are you serious?

Have a look at how many Jews there are in the US.

Exactly
The financial might of all the Jewish people in the US dictates their influence on policy. simple as that.

2007-06-22 22:57:56

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6850|North Carolina

maffiaw wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Why does the USA help Israel so much then
Are you serious?

Have a look at how many Jews there are in the US.
Exactly
The financial might of all the Jewish people in the US dictates their influence on policy. simple as that.

Keeping that in mind, I would argue that most nations do not act in the best interests of their people in general, but they do act in the best interests of their rich people. If there weren't so many rich Zionists investing in our government, we'd likely not continue funding Israel. But the Zionists are among not just Jews. There are plenty of Christian fundamentalist Zionists and neocon warmonger Zionists.

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