l41e
Member
+677|7093

Man, it's been a long time since I've felt like putting up a rant.

Alright. What is up with this? It seems that the only argument some people (not going to name names) have is "You're a stupid liberal, therefore you are the sole cause of the world's problems and are always wrong." For God's sake, that's essentially saying, "I disagree with you, so you're wrong, and I'm going to shut out all evidence otherwise and repeat this mindless babble over and over until you get exasperated and go away."

Maybe your causes, whatever they may be, would be more effective if you weren't always on crusades against liberalism.

Especially - come to think about it - the causes against whining and "the world's growing wussiness", or whatever the hell's the most recently coined term for it. "OMG mommy get rid of the evil libs destroying de country waa!", last time I checked, qualifies as both. And, yeah, that statement is exaggerated, and, yeah, exaggeration is apparently a staple of the exact group of people I'm talking about (except it's generally stated as somewhat realistic "fact").

Seriously. It's like every single thread you go into, you'll find someone basically going on about since he's not an evil commie liberal, he's uberpatriot Mr. G-Man, defender of liberty and American values, and all who oppose him are said evil communazi terrorist liberals (never mind the USSR collapsing a decade and a half ago), while not even addressing a single argument. Just robotic, trance-inducing "Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad." Wonder what would happen if a liberal tried to agree with them. They'd probably just turn their argument right around, forget that they'd ever had another opinion, and go right on bitching about, well, of all things, bitching.

"Save the world! Destroy evil libs!" = "I disagree! Save me from dissent!"

end.
usmarine
Banned
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OMG, Bush.
l41e
Member
+677|7093

That was quick. Did you bother actually reading what I typed?

Edit: I'm sorry, that's not necessary, liberals don't deserve argument.

Last edited by k30dxedle (2007-06-22 16:30:22)

KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,993|7077|949

People are idiots.  Bottom line.

and I did read what you typed.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-06-22 16:31:14)

usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

k30dxedle wrote:

That was quick. Did you bother actually reading what I typed?

Edit: I'm sorry, that's not necessary, liberals don't deserve argument.
I read it.  And if you do not see that from both sides, then you need to spend more time here.

Don't get smart kid.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-06-22 16:31:28)

l41e
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

That was quick. Did you bother actually reading what I typed?

Edit: I'm sorry, that's not necessary, liberals don't deserve argument.
I read it.  And if you do not see that from both sides, then you need to spend more time here.

Don't get smart kid.
That's a lot of people who need to spend more time here.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

k30dxedle wrote:

That's a lot of people who need to spend more time here.
Look, both sides make the same comments.

I am going to assume what sparked this thread was that revived liberal post right?
l41e
Member
+677|7093

usmarine2005 wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

That's a lot of people who need to spend more time here.
Look, both sides make the same comments.

I am going to assume what sparked this thread was that revived liberal post right?
Believe it or not, nothing in particular sparked this. I've just kinda had it in my head for a while and decided to type it up just now.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

Think about it for a second.  You here it on those evening cable news talk shows all the time, blogs, and on talk radio...just to name a few.  Why the hell wouldn't you hear it on a forum?

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-06-22 16:47:07)

golgoj4
Member
+51|7219|North Hollywood

k30dxedle wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

That was quick. Did you bother actually reading what I typed?

Edit: I'm sorry, that's not necessary, liberals don't deserve argument.
I read it.  And if you do not see that from both sides, then you need to spend more time here.

Don't get smart kid.
That's a lot of people who need to spend more time here.
Or less...a lot less.
imortal
Member
+240|7110|Austin, TX

k30dxedle wrote:

Man, it's been a long time since I've felt like putting up a rant.

Alright. What is up with this? It seems that the only argument some people (not going to name names) have is "You're a stupid liberal, therefore you are the sole cause of the world's problems and are always wrong." For God's sake, that's essentially saying, "I disagree with you, so you're wrong, and I'm going to shut out all evidence otherwise and repeat this mindless babble over and over until you get exasperated and go away."

Maybe your causes, whatever they may be, would be more effective if you weren't always on crusades against liberalism.

Especially - come to think about it - the causes against whining and "the world's growing wussiness", or whatever the hell's the most recently coined term for it. "OMG mommy get rid of the evil libs destroying de country waa!", last time I checked, qualifies as both. And, yeah, that statement is exaggerated, and, yeah, exaggeration is apparently a staple of the exact group of people I'm talking about (except it's generally stated as somewhat realistic "fact").

Seriously. It's like every single thread you go into, you'll find someone basically going on about since he's not an evil commie liberal, he's uberpatriot Mr. G-Man, defender of liberty and American values, and all who oppose him are said evil communazi terrorist liberals (never mind the USSR collapsing a decade and a half ago), while not even addressing a single argument. Just robotic, trance-inducing "Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad." Wonder what would happen if a liberal tried to agree with them. They'd probably just turn their argument right around, forget that they'd ever had another opinion, and go right on bitching about, well, of all things, bitching.

"Save the world! Destroy evil libs!" = "I disagree! Save me from dissent!"

end.
Okay, you have a point.  Of corse, the opposite is also true.  Replace "liberal" with "Conservative," "neo-con," or several other terms, it would remain just as true.
golgoj4
Member
+51|7219|North Hollywood

usmarine2005 wrote:

Think about it for a second.  You here it on those evening cable news talk shows all the time, blogs, and on talk radio...just to name a few.  Why the hell wouldn't you hear it on a forum?
he makes a good point. I get annoyed with it because it seems to be the pervasive crap in most forums i use. I just expected gamers to be more insightful..
usmarine
Banned
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golgoj4 wrote:

I just expected gamers to be more insightful..
rofl....huh?
l41e
Member
+677|7093

imortal wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

bla-de-bla
Okay, you have a point.  Of corse, the opposite is also true.  Replace "liberal" with "Conservative," "neo-con," or several other terms, it would remain just as true.
Yeah, unfortunately, that's true as well, I'll give you that.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Liberalism = a love of personal liberty and an ideology in politics that dictates personal freedoms above all else as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others.

Pity we've never had a "liberal" movement that follows that definition.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
DeathBecomesYu
Member
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Actually, these forums are more liberal, conservative bashing than anything else. Like someone else said, just replace the word liberal with conservative and it would still be the same. It goes BOTH ways....but again, on this site, it usually is the other way around.
imortal
Member
+240|7110|Austin, TX

Flecco wrote:

Liberalism = a love of personal liberty and an ideology in politics that dictates personal freedoms above all else as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others.

Pity we've never had a "liberal" movement that follows that definition.
No, that is the Libertarian viewpoint, not the liberal one.  There IS a difference.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006

k30dxedle wrote:

"You're a stupid liberal, therefore you are the sole cause of the world's problems and are always wrong."
And yet when your response is a few choice words, you get banned.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6832

Flecco wrote:

Liberalism = a love of personal liberty and an ideology in politics that dictates personal freedoms above all else as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others.

Pity we've never had a "liberal" movement that follows that definition.
That Libertarism, and to show my view points, I would like to take all that and add in "the saftey of the nation or the health and well being of the working populous.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7091
I agree. I hate liberals too. Good post.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006

Commie Killer wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Liberalism = a love of personal liberty and an ideology in politics that dictates personal freedoms above all else as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others.

Pity we've never had a "liberal" movement that follows that definition.
That Libertarism, and to show my view points, I would like to take all that and add in "the saftey of the nation or the health and well being of the working populous.
No, that's Liberalism.  Libertarianism is the name created for it so as to paste other labels on Liberals.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6850|North Carolina

k30dxedle wrote:

Man, it's been a long time since I've felt like putting up a rant.

Alright. What is up with this? It seems that the only argument some people (not going to name names) have is "You're a stupid liberal, therefore you are the sole cause of the world's problems and are always wrong." For God's sake, that's essentially saying, "I disagree with you, so you're wrong, and I'm going to shut out all evidence otherwise and repeat this mindless babble over and over until you get exasperated and go away."

Maybe your causes, whatever they may be, would be more effective if you weren't always on crusades against liberalism.

Especially - come to think about it - the causes against whining and "the world's growing wussiness", or whatever the hell's the most recently coined term for it. "OMG mommy get rid of the evil libs destroying de country waa!", last time I checked, qualifies as both. And, yeah, that statement is exaggerated, and, yeah, exaggeration is apparently a staple of the exact group of people I'm talking about (except it's generally stated as somewhat realistic "fact").

Seriously. It's like every single thread you go into, you'll find someone basically going on about since he's not an evil commie liberal, he's uberpatriot Mr. G-Man, defender of liberty and American values, and all who oppose him are said evil communazi terrorist liberals (never mind the USSR collapsing a decade and a half ago), while not even addressing a single argument. Just robotic, trance-inducing "Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad. Liberals are bad." Wonder what would happen if a liberal tried to agree with them. They'd probably just turn their argument right around, forget that they'd ever had another opinion, and go right on bitching about, well, of all things, bitching.

"Save the world! Destroy evil libs!" = "I disagree! Save me from dissent!"

end.
Agreed...  although admittedly, I've seen plenty of the liberal equivalent of this.  People want to blame everything on Bush.  I despise Bush, but I still realize that he's not responsible for all of our problems.  I also agree with a rare few things he's done.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6832

Bubbalo wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Liberalism = a love of personal liberty and an ideology in politics that dictates personal freedoms above all else as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others.

Pity we've never had a "liberal" movement that follows that definition.
Thats Libertarianism, and to show my view points, I would like to take all that and add in "the saftey of the nation or the health and well being of the working populous.
No, that's Liberalism.  Libertarianism is the name created for it so as to paste other labels on Liberals.
Do you see Liberals acting that way? In my mind, and I think almost everyone else's that is Libertarianism. No Liberal that I can think of believes in those things, maybe that was true in the past but not now. Unless of course you are considering me, ATG, Kmarion, and others that you usually name as "neo-cons" as liberals. Now Bubs, you're really starting to be very contradictory.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7119|Canberra, AUS

Commie Killer wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:


Thats Libertarianism, and to show my view points, I would like to take all that and add in "the saftey of the nation or the health and well being of the working populous.
No, that's Liberalism.  Libertarianism is the name created for it so as to paste other labels on Liberals.
Do you see Liberals acting that way? In my mind, and I think almost everyone else's that is Libertarianism. No Liberal that I can think of believes in those things, maybe that was true in the past but not now. Unless of course you are considering me, ATG, Kmarion, and others that you usually name as "neo-cons" as liberals. Now Bubs, you're really starting to be very contradictory.
What do you mean? That is the definition of LIBERALISM, not Libertarianism. His point is that people have shuffled the definitions around in order to justify further name-calling.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
mcminty
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Thanks so much for posting this. Here, in Australia, I look at all these 'insults' (eg.stupid liberal, blah blah blah) and think you are on something...


In the words of Chris Rock:

"The whole country has a fucked up mentality, man, we all got a gang mentality. Republican's are fucking idiots, and democrats are fucking idiots, and conservatives are idiots, and liberals are idiots. Anyone that makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a fucking fool, ok. Everybody is so busy wanting to be down with the gang. Bullshit, be a fucking person. Listen. Let is swirl around your head. Then form your opinion. No normal, decent person is one thing... I got some shit I'm conservative I'm about, I've got some shit I'm liberal about."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=auqRgzuLaK8

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