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2007-06-25 19:01:49
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … QL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
2007-06-25 19:02:55
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6891|Chicago, IL

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/25/BAGELQL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
Staph mutates rapidly, so it quicly becomes immune to medications, thats why it is so hard to control.

Evolution right before your eyes, kinda interesting isn't it?
2007-06-25 19:03:24
fitz8402
Member
+10|7054|The Halls of Montezuma

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/25/BAGELQL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
Goverment run is the problem.  The care recieved in private hospitals is superior.
2007-06-25 19:05:26
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity

fitz8402 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/25/BAGELQL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
Goverment run is the problem.  The care recieved in private hospitals is superior.
Yea it really makes you wander were the fuck our tax dollars go.
2007-06-25 19:06:38
fitz8402
Member
+10|7054|The Halls of Montezuma
Paying for the health care of illegal aliens for 1
2007-06-25 19:11:02
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity

fitz8402 wrote:

Paying for the health care of illegal aliens for 1
lol probly true but the fac tof the matter is that if we pay taxes to our goverment to keep our roads good , our hospitals effective, and all the other nicities that the goverment does for us then we should expect it to be done at least half way decent.
2007-06-25 19:57:57
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7045|132 and Bush

S.Lythberg wrote:

Evolution right before your eyes, kinda interesting isn't it?
As a male I'm quite surprised my nipples haven't fallen off yet.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-06-25 19:59:14
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity

Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Evolution right before your eyes, kinda interesting isn't it?
As a male I'm quite surprised my nipples haven't fallen off yet.
Its because when we are fetuses we are hermaphrodites and our sex isnt fully chosen till late in the pregnacy.
2007-06-25 20:01:31
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7045|132 and Bush

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Evolution right before your eyes, kinda interesting isn't it?
As a male I'm quite surprised my nipples haven't fallen off yet.
Its because when we are fetuses we are hermaphrodites and our sex isnt fully chosen till late in the pregnacy.
Perhaps somewhere around the time of growing a penis in the womb my boobies could have joined the party.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-06-25 20:05:09
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6969|South Florida
For those wondering, Staph
15 more years! 15 more years!
2007-06-25 20:09:13
basetballjones
Member
+30|7193
The American government only subsidizes health care, not fund it- this is why you can walk into an emergency room and get care regardless of your fiscal outlook.

Staph, as pointed out by an earlier poster, is in constant evolution.  To be technical it replicates and evolves it's mRNA about once per 4 hours.
The biggest reason that hospitals are crawling with it is because we have trained the bacteria to be resistant to convention disinfectants over the past 100 years.

Simply put- all germs, bacteria, and virii adapt and evolve to their environment at a rate roughly 10,000 time the speed of human evolution, and they learn from their encounters.  Same reason we cannot cure AIDS- as soon as we discover a cure, it mutates to overcome that cure within hours.

Sorry about your uncle, but it's not really the hospital's fault, or the government, or anybody, for that matter- it's simple evolution/adaptation.

If you want to blame someone, blame ourselves.  If we were not so steadfast in curing every little sneeze and sniffle, humans might evolve to be immune to things like staph or the flu.  To no avail, while we strive to stomp out germs, virii, and bacteria (they outnumber us 1,000,000,000:1) we only make them stronger.
2007-06-25 20:09:41
evilcartman99
The Octagon
+18|6857|da ville, va
I got one when I was at an Army Guard Base
2007-06-25 20:34:39
The_Mac
Member
+96|6669

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Yea it really makes you wander were the fuck our tax dollars go.
Politicians lunches, salaries, and campaign money. Oh the joys of socializing health care.
2007-06-25 20:37:23
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6865|Melbourne, AUS
Easier said than done I'm afraid.
Looks like your uncle caught a "superbug" strain of Staph. While some people carry Staph. Aureus, Pyrogenes etc as natural flora, strains in hospitals are resistant to most if not almost all known antibiotics and bactericides.
2007-06-25 22:36:28
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6973|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

fitz8402 wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/25/BAGELQL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
Goverment run is the problem.  The care recieved in private hospitals is superior.
Yea it really makes you wander were the fuck our tax dollars go.
There's a reason why hospitals don't recieve as much funding as they should. Because remember that government run (socialised) healthcare is one of the communist liberal democrat hillary clinton things that is destroying America!

You sound like a fool simply because as a "liberal slayer" you probably hate the idea of socialised health care and elect the conservatives that take all the money away from health and education, instead choosing to privatise these services, so that when you actually need teh public health care you sook about it doesnt have the best facilities and "where do our tax dollars go."

Well keep electing those rightists and you'll say goodbye to public health facilities and your uncle can not only pay taxes but also private health cover so that he can get the service he should have got with his taxes!
2007-06-25 22:41:54
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

Kmarion wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


As a male I'm quite surprised my nipples haven't fallen off yet.
Its because when we are fetuses we are hermaphrodites and our sex isnt fully chosen till late in the pregnacy.
Perhaps somewhere around the time of growing a penis in the womb my boobies could have joined the party.
Does the Fetus Begin as Female?

(for the lazy: the answer is no, gender is selected at conception, according to what gender the sperm is)
2007-06-25 22:47:59
Budzilla
Member
+9|6637|Brisbane, Australia

TeamZephyr wrote:

You sound like a fool simply because as a "liberal slayer" you probably hate the idea of socialised health care and elect the conservatives that take all the money away from health and education, instead choosing to privatise these services, so that when you actually need teh public health care you sook about it doesnt have the best facilities and "where do our tax dollars go."
I live in Queensland. A state in Australia. We have free health care(Public hospitals managed by state government) and Private Health care(paid by insurance companies). 2 years ago an inquiry revealed that there was 100,000 waiting list for non-elective surgery for the public sector hospitals only. Our state has a total population of 3 million people.

Money is not the problem. Government tries to manage something it totally buggers things up.
2007-06-25 23:47:37
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6973|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Budzilla wrote:

TeamZephyr wrote:

You sound like a fool simply because as a "liberal slayer" you probably hate the idea of socialised health care and elect the conservatives that take all the money away from health and education, instead choosing to privatise these services, so that when you actually need teh public health care you sook about it doesnt have the best facilities and "where do our tax dollars go."
I live in Queensland. A state in Australia. We have free health care(Public hospitals managed by state government) and Private Health care(paid by insurance companies). 2 years ago an inquiry revealed that there was 100,000 waiting list for non-elective surgery for the public sector hospitals only. Our state has a total population of 3 million people.

Money is not the problem. Government tries to manage something it totally buggers things up.
I live in Victoria. A state in Australia. We have pretty much the same shit down here in Victoria so I know exactly what you're talking about. Both our states suffer from a lack of proper funding to public education and health.

And it is the USA that the poster is from and that is the place that we are talking about here...
2007-06-26 00:50:03
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|7146|Little Rock, Arkansas

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/25/BAGELQL66N1.DTL

Yes apparently Staph is running rampent in american hospitals. This explains why my uncle caught staph and his knee swelled up to the size of a cantolope. Something seriously needs to be done about this. I mean the hostpitals are goverment run for christ sakes, why arent they in better shape? I really dont see why my uncle has to suffer for another 2 months with a knee still  twice its normal size.
1. I don't know of any hospitals that are government run, outside of the VA system. And I work in the medical field. There are public hospitals, to be sure, but while they accept public funding (medicare, medicaid, etc), they are by no means government run. They are autonomous.

2. Staph is a nasty little bugger. We've been battling it for thousands of years, and will continue to do so for thousands more. Everyone carries Staph in their nose (among other places), the problem is that the presense of a mutated form that is resistant to Methicillin-type pharmaceuticals (of which penicillin is a member, along with other beta-lactam antibiotics [cephalosporins, cephamycins and carbapenems]). You have to treat these infections with other (more expensive) antibiotics. The hospital that I used to work for chose clindamyacin, to help prevent the spread of VRSA (vancomyasin resistant staph), whereas most adult hospitals choose to treat MRSA with vanc. The only known cases of VRSA to pop up thus far have come from the prison population. Fortunately, at this point, any bacteria that is vanc resistant will respond to a methicillin. When a bug manages to evolve that is resistant, we'll be in a bit of a pickle, with only 2 or 3 fallbacks.

There's no magic bullet to treat staph. We know that alcohol, along with the vast majority of hospital cleansers kill it, but the problem is that people don't want their hospitals to look like, well, hospitals. They want carpet and wallpaper, where tile and paint are much easier to disinfect. It, like everything else in medicine, is a tradeoff.

EDIT

I just read that article. It's scaremongering bullshit. MRSA isn't 2.5 times more lethal than staph. It's equally as lethal. The problem is identifying it as a MRSA strain, and treating it as such. This is the kind of shite that makes medicine such a shitty profession. We've know about the problem for damn near a decade, and a newspaper article that makes people afraid to go to the hospital doesn't help anything. This tripe makes it sound like a brand new problem that we're not doing anything to address, when that's just not the case.

Last edited by blisteringsilence (2007-06-26 00:55:30)

2007-06-26 00:53:26
HOLLYWOOD=_=FTW=_=
Member
+31|6996
Staph is everywhere you have it on your skin right now. It has nothing to do with govt run hospitals which Im pretty sure was an assnine statement cause here in the US we dont have govt run hospitals except the VA clinics. It all depends on how healthy your immune system is.
2007-06-26 00:54:01
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7119|Canberra, AUS
I think the whole country suffers from the same problem, TZ.

Staph is somewhat like the malaria-bearing Plasmodium parasite - very, very fast to evolve And people still say evolution doesn't exist...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2007-06-26 08:43:37
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity

TeamZephyr wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

fitz8402 wrote:


Goverment run is the problem.  The care recieved in private hospitals is superior.
Yea it really makes you wander were the fuck our tax dollars go.
There's a reason why hospitals don't recieve as much funding as they should. Because remember that government run (socialised) healthcare is one of the communist liberal democrat hillary clinton things that is destroying America!

You sound like a fool simply because as a "liberal slayer" you probably hate the idea of socialised health care and elect the conservatives that take all the money away from health and education, instead choosing to privatise these services, so that when you actually need teh public health care you sook about it doesnt have the best facilities and "where do our tax dollars go."

Well keep electing those rightists and you'll say goodbye to public health facilities and your uncle can not only pay taxes but also private health cover so that he can get the service he should have got with his taxes!
My dad pays about 33% taxes from his salery which is approxmently 53,000 a year. Thats about 17,490 dollars amego. Thats enough to buy loads of hospital equitment. So why arnt the hospitals better? I mean if one person provides 17,490 dollars to the goverment every year than why cant the goverment at least make hospitals better?
2007-06-26 08:46:20
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7209|Dallas
I am currently battling a staph problem.  One on my abdomen and one on my ass.  However, it was hospitals that gave me the infections to begin with so I'm a bit weary about going back. 

Talk about being stuck between a rock and hard spot.  This is a pain in my ass, quite literally.
2007-06-26 15:58:25
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6973|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

My dad pays about 33% taxes from his salery which is approxmently 53,000 a year. Thats about 17,490 dollars amego. Thats enough to buy loads of hospital equitment. So why arnt the hospitals better? I mean if one person provides 17,490 dollars to the goverment every year than why cant the goverment at least make hospitals better?
Christ are you that dense? You don't expect the government to make hospitals better because you elect conservatives (mostly republicans) to government that don't fund public healthcare and education! And as a result Cuba has a better health care system than you because the conservatives privitize it all and the public system goes to shit! All that $17,490 goes to tax cuts for the rich and military equipment!

Remember that the public socialized health care system is a very liberal idea (Hillary Clinton talks about it a fair bit), an idea that you all of a sudden seem to be supporting when you need it the most.

Stop being so offended that the government doesn't spend money on the public system if you elect a government that doesn't give a toss about the public system.
2007-06-26 18:28:39
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6900|The edge of sanity

TeamZephyr wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

My dad pays about 33% taxes from his salery which is approxmently 53,000 a year. Thats about 17,490 dollars amego. Thats enough to buy loads of hospital equitment. So why arnt the hospitals better? I mean if one person provides 17,490 dollars to the goverment every year than why cant the goverment at least make hospitals better?
Christ are you that dense? You don't expect the government to make hospitals better because you elect conservatives (mostly republicans) to government that don't fund public healthcare and education! And as a result Cuba has a better health care system than you because the conservatives privitize it all and the public system goes to shit! All that $17,490 goes to tax cuts for the rich and military equipment!

Remember that the public socialized health care system is a very liberal idea (Hillary Clinton talks about it a fair bit), an idea that you all of a sudden seem to be supporting when you need it the most.

Stop being so offended that the government doesn't spend money on the public system if you elect a government that doesn't give a toss about the public system.
I didnt elect Bush and as you may as well know the American people dont elect our officials. They are chosen for us by our lovley electoral college system (total fucking bullshit IMHO). Our public system should be supported by what the goverment says they are gonna do. We shouldnt have our tax money going to hiliary clintons god awful bullshit or any othe politicians bullshit.

 

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