BF2S Forums The West and the Arab World

rawls2 wrote:

Seriously, are they locked in by Israel or by their own ineptitude?

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

    The whole Palestine is a big concentration camp.

    Cameron Poe wrote:

    Qalqilya in particular is nightmarish. If this isn't a CONCENTRATION CAMP, I don't know what is. And I have been to DACHAU. The Israelis should be ashamed of themselves. How can Qalqilya possibly have any sort of economy at all!

You were comparing your pictures of the Palestinians (Qalqilya) to camps like Dachau and you invoke the image and feelings of the WW2 idea of concentration camps. These are YOUR words. So what images do you think people think of when you bring up Dachau/ WW2.........OF COURSE people will immediately think of death, murder, gassing...everything associated with what a WW2 German concentration camp (Dachau) was. So don't sit there and say you didn't do that when it is right there in your own writing. I completely agree with you that you could see a lot of similarities to a ghetto at that time, but you didn't stop there. In a couple of short sentences you link them all together....Qalqilya/ Concentration Camp/ Dachau. I know what the definition of a concentration camp is.....that is not the point.....the point is that YES...you did invoke those images of those types of camps and tried to compare it to the Palestinian situation now....and that is just totally out of context and absurd.!!

CameronPoe wrote:

they have far from 'won the war' that secured their borders/existence.

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Damn Jews.  Go live somewhere else.  Every country was established right were they were born and no wars were fought over the land.  Damn Jews, why do you have to be different.  You stole land.  Bad bad people.  Everyone else had their land given to them by God, you just stole yours.  Naughty.

If they want to keep their land then they pretty much have to defeat/annihilate Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kurdistan, Shiraq, Sunniraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen and Kuwait because let's be honest here: they have far from 'won the war' that secured their borders/existence.

Smitty5613 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Damn Jews.  Go live somewhere else.  Every country was established right were they were born and no wars were fought over the land.  Damn Jews, why do you have to be different.  You stole land.  Bad bad people.  Everyone else had their land given to them by God, you just stole yours.  Naughty.

If they want to keep their land then they pretty much have to defeat/annihilate Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kurdistan, Shiraq, Sunniraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen and Kuwait because let's be honest here: they have far from 'won the war' that secured their borders/existence.

you know in the United States, we took our country from the Indians that lived here... we broke treaties with them just as fast as we made them... yet people never complain about how we stole our country and how we shouldnt be here... Isreal was made after the British Mandate over Palestine expired, it wasnt stolen from anyone, and yet we complain about how they shouldnt be their and it isnt their land.....

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

and if the regimes that rule those countries you mention were eliminated, it would be for the better.  What stories have you heard of cures for disease, the better longer lasting lightbulb, aspirations for space travel, discovering the secrets to the universe from those countries?  Many of them also sit on huge amounts of wealth held by precious few people with absolutely no way for the 'masses' to attain propserity.  Why isn't there more outcry at that.

rawls2 wrote:

So Israel, who recently released frozen funds, planning releases of prisoners is never going to appease any of you until they no longer exist? If they give half of their country back it still will not satisfy it's enemies.

usmarine2005 wrote:

Damn Jews.  Go live somewhere else.  Every country was established right were they were born and no wars were fought over the land.  Damn Jews, why do you have to be different.  You stole land.  Bad bad people.  Everyone else had their land given to them by God, you just stole yours.  Naughty.

sergeriver wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Nobody wants that, we only want Israel to give back Gaza and West Bank.

If Israel did that..............Do you honestly think or believe it will stop there?

If you do, I have a bridge for sale...free shipping while it lasts.

Do you have any Golden Gate left?

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Damn Jews.  Go live somewhere else.  Every country was established right were they were born and no wars were fought over the land.  Damn Jews, why do you have to be different.  You stole land.  Bad bad people.  Everyone else had their land given to them by God, you just stole yours.  Naughty.

Thanks for the humor Dane Cook.

Kmarion wrote:

Who are the traitors, Hamas or Fatah?  Should either of them get support other than humanitarian?

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Who are the traitors, Hamas or Fatah?  Should either of them get support other than humanitarian?

Honestly, this whole situation stinks...Now the U.S. will get more involved and who knows where that will take us and what will come back to bite us in the ass again. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I dont envy the people involved in these decisions....it almost seems hopeless in so many ways.