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2007-07-25 20:36:34

#101

Wolphoenix: Member; +3|6585

I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.

The thing i dont like about Americans is that most are so full of themselves. They think what other countries do on the other side of the world, in their own house, is any business of them and get involved. People dont like other people getting involved in their business. And that is the reason the US is not really well liked anymore.

Oh, and the reason most of the Muslim world and Africa hates the US is because of US foreign policy which has killed millions in those areas by overthrowing goverments, installing puppet regimes, trading with rebels and the army etc etc.

2007-07-25 21:37:36

#102

CC-Marley: Member; +407|7264

sergeriver wrote:
Get over yourself. Nobody is obsessed with the US, except the US.

Wtf have the female politicians to do in here? Angela Merkel anyone. Europe is way ahead in that matter. Happy birthday, but remember Europe has thousands of years of history.

Thousands of years of fighting each other and talking smack about each other. Just look at English and French history. How many times did they kill each other?

2007-12-02 09:08:16

#103

Hunter/Jumper: Member; +117|6789

0000000 wrote:
When the US fades into obscurity we'll begin to fear China I'm sure (circa 30 years from now).

bet every last eurodollar you have on this. I will bet the other way and give you odds. Anytime.

2007-12-02 09:28:29

#104

dark110: Member; +37|7057|Chicagoland

Wolphoenix wrote:
I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.

exactly, not only did we save Europe from the Naizis, we saved them from the cominust too. Nothing against russians now, but back then, the whole, "Evil comunist" thing was a big fear. You cant have wanted them to puse all the way into the wester tip of france. What would that be like today? go look up the game, Freedom Fighter. kida like that.

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Last edited by dark110 (2007-12-02 09:29:08)

2007-12-02 09:40:24

#105

Mint Sauce: Frighteningly average; +780|6721|eng

dark110 wrote:
Wolphoenix wrote:
I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.
exactly, not only did we save Europe from the Naizis, we saved them from the cominust too. Nothing against russians now, but back then, the whole, "Evil comunist" thing was a big fear. You cant have wanted them to puse all the way into the wester tip of france. What would that be like today? go look up the game, Freedom Fighter. kida like that.

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It was actually Russia that were the big help in stopping Nazism encroaching outside of Germany. The US did not stop communism, it was a COLD war, therefore Russia had to agree. And the other times that you have tried to stop Communism; Vietnam, Cuba and presently, North Korea. How well did they go.

Last point; You are talking about Communism spreading throughout Europe as being similiar to the Freedom Fighters game, which is set in the US. Good Game.

In short, EU = US.

#rekt

2007-12-02 11:04:09

#106

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6846|'Murka

Wolphoenix wrote:
I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.

True, Hitler deciding to fight a two-front war was folly. No one's arguing that point. But the bulk of the D-Day invasion was US. The overall command was US. Most of the equipment was US. It WAS a team effort, but the majority of the fighting and dying was done by the US. We commemorate the US participation in D-Day, just as I'm sure the Brits, Canadians, and others commemorate their own country's participation in D-Day. Is that wrong?

Wolphoenix wrote:
The thing i dont like about Americans is that most are so full of themselves. They think what other countries do on the other side of the world, in their own house, is any business of them and get involved. People dont like other people getting involved in their business. And that is the reason the US is not really well liked anymore.

The things we don't like are generalizations and stereotypes.

Wolphoenix wrote:
Oh, and the reason most of the Muslim world and Africa hates the US is because of US foreign policy which has killed millions in those areas by overthrowing goverments, installing puppet regimes, trading with rebels and the army etc etc.

Wow. Utter hypocrisy. Which countries had colonies throughout those areas? Wouldn't be the US.

South Africa, anyone (Dutch)? How about Iraq (former British protectorate)? The Levant (Brits again)? Crusades (Europe)? The deep-rooted hatred is actually for the West...the US just gets the brunt because we get most of the press.

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2007-12-02 11:44:32

#107

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

i hate the internet

2007-12-02 11:56:17

#108

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6725|Éire

FEOS wrote:
Wolphoenix wrote:
I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.
True, Hitler deciding to fight a two-front war was folly. No one's arguing that point. But the bulk of the D-Day invasion was US. The overall command was US. Most of the equipment was US. It WAS a team effort, but the majority of the fighting and dying was done by the US. We commemorate the US participation in D-Day, just as I'm sure the Brits, Canadians, and others commemorate their own country's participation in D-Day. Is that wrong?

Wolphoenix wrote:
The thing i dont like about Americans is that most are so full of themselves. They think what other countries do on the other side of the world, in their own house, is any business of them and get involved. People dont like other people getting involved in their business. And that is the reason the US is not really well liked anymore.
The things we don't like are generalizations and stereotypes.

Wolphoenix wrote:
Oh, and the reason most of the Muslim world and Africa hates the US is because of US foreign policy which has killed millions in those areas by overthrowing goverments, installing puppet regimes, trading with rebels and the army etc etc.
Wow. Utter hypocrisy. Which countries had colonies throughout those areas? Wouldn't be the US.

South Africa, anyone (Dutch)? How about Iraq (former British protectorate)? The Levant (Brits again)? Crusades (Europe)? The deep-rooted hatred is actually for the West...the US just gets the brunt because we get most of the press.

You are right on many points here FEOS. Europe is indeed guilty of sticking it's nose where it has no business throughout history and Wolphoenix's assertion that 'most Americans' are full themselves is a sweeping generalisation but I would, however, question your assertion that 'the majority of the fighting and dying was done by the US'. The United States lost less than half a million compared with the Soviet Union, who lost over 23 MILLION. Russia get way less credit for the defeat of the Nazi's than they deserve imo.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

2007-12-02 12:04:27

#109

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,072|7207|PNW

sergeriver wrote:
Get over yourself. Nobody is obsessed with the US, except the US.

"Death to America" isn't exactly obsession, I suppose.

...

2007-12-02 13:00:09

#110

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6990

Hunter/Jumper wrote:
0000000 wrote:
When the US fades into obscurity we'll begin to fear China I'm sure (circa 30 years from now).
bet every last eurodollar you have on this. I will bet the other way and give you odds. Anytime.

Visit China and get back to us. 1.3 billion > 300 million by any manner of rational thought, especially when both have nukes. Besides - the sentence you speak of is economically speaking. They already have the US and Europe over a barrel ffs.

2007-12-02 13:01:09

#111

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6990

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
Get over yourself. Nobody is obsessed with the US, except the US.
"Death to America" isn't exactly obsession, I suppose.

...

When did you hear a typical European saying that?

2007-12-02 13:13:44

#112

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

I think its because of Myspace.

2007-12-02 13:21:11

#113

suomalainen_äijä: Member; +64|6600

CameronPoe wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
Get over yourself. Nobody is obsessed with the US, except the US.
"Death to America" isn't exactly obsession, I suppose.

...
When did you hear a typical European saying that?

2007-12-02 13:22:34

#114

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

ill tell you what gets annoying coming from euros . when you guys say "land of the free?" in the usual condescending manner

2007-12-02 13:27:57

#115

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6953|Montucky

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I think its because of Myspace.

2007-12-02 13:27:58

#116

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
ill tell you what gets annoying coming from euros . when you guys say "land of the free?" in the usual condescending manner

cam and serge say that religiously......but serge aint a filthy euro.

2007-12-02 13:35:21

#117

Fallschirmjager10: Member; +36|6895

Braddock wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Wolphoenix wrote:
I dont think Europeans are obsessed with the US. Its just our governments want to be best of pals with the US and most of us dont want to anymore. Americans are also the most annoying when it comes to WWII. They think that it was because of them that the war was won, completely disregarding Russia, without whom D-Day would not have been such a success. It was Russia that annihliated most of the Nazi army and weakened Germany which helped the ALLIES (See, allies, not US) pish forward.
True, Hitler deciding to fight a two-front war was folly. No one's arguing that point. But the bulk of the D-Day invasion was US. The overall command was US. Most of the equipment was US. It WAS a team effort, but the majority of the fighting and dying was done by the US. We commemorate the US participation in D-Day, just as I'm sure the Brits, Canadians, and others commemorate their own country's participation in D-Day. Is that wrong?

Wolphoenix wrote:
The thing i dont like about Americans is that most are so full of themselves. They think what other countries do on the other side of the world, in their own house, is any business of them and get involved. People dont like other people getting involved in their business. And that is the reason the US is not really well liked anymore.
The things we don't like are generalizations and stereotypes.

Wolphoenix wrote:
Oh, and the reason most of the Muslim world and Africa hates the US is because of US foreign policy which has killed millions in those areas by overthrowing goverments, installing puppet regimes, trading with rebels and the army etc etc.
Wow. Utter hypocrisy. Which countries had colonies throughout those areas? Wouldn't be the US.

South Africa, anyone (Dutch)? How about Iraq (former British protectorate)? The Levant (Brits again)? Crusades (Europe)? The deep-rooted hatred is actually for the West...the US just gets the brunt because we get most of the press.
You are right on many points here FEOS. Europe is indeed guilty of sticking it's nose where it has no business throughout history and Wolphoenix's assertion that 'most Americans' are full themselves is a sweeping generalisation but I would, however, question your assertion that 'the majority of the fighting and dying was done by the US'. The United States lost less than half a million compared with the Soviet Union, who lost over 23 MILLION. Russia get way less credit for the defeat of the Nazi's than they deserve imo.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

How many of those Russians died to the Germans and not the Russians themselves?

2007-12-02 13:48:06

#118

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6990

usmarine2005 wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
ill tell you what gets annoying coming from euros . when you guys say "land of the free?" in the usual condescending manner
cam and serge say that religiously......but serge aint a filthy euro.

I never use that phrase dipshit. Learn to read what actually shows up on your monitor.

2007-12-02 13:50:12

#119

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6903

Didn't this thread get closed?

2007-12-02 14:26:52

#120

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

CameronPoe wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
ill tell you what gets annoying coming from euros . when you guys say "land of the free?" in the usual condescending manner
cam and serge say that religiously......but serge aint a filthy euro.
I never use that phrase dipshit. Learn to read what actually shows up on your monitor.

You have said it before you drunk.

2007-12-02 14:28:58

#121

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6990

usmarine2005 wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
cam and serge say that religiously......but serge aint a filthy euro.
I never use that phrase dipshit. Learn to read what actually shows up on your monitor.
You have said it before you drunk.

Bring up the 'say that religiously' stream of examples then.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-02 14:30:02)

2007-12-02 14:42:28

#122

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

CameronPoe wrote:
Bring up the 'say that religiously' stream of examples then.

Meh...most threads from the past are gone. Maybe later, I am watching football. Go get another drink.

2007-12-02 14:45:25

#123

colonelioan: Member; +14|6891|Kanada

Walks in, Opens mouth and says: Naa i wont even get started. Then Walks Away.

2007-12-02 14:45:33

#124

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6990

usmarine2005 wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Bring up the 'say that religiously' stream of examples then.
Meh...most threads from the past are gone. Maybe later, I am watching football. Go get another drink.

Wow. You add so little to D&ST it's mind-boggling. Why do you bother posting here? Seriously. I mean about 90% of your posts are either 'fail', 'meh', 'lose', 'qft', 'qfe' or other such drivel. What is the fucking point?

2007-12-02 14:51:01

#125

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7106|UK

CameronPoe wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Bring up the 'say that religiously' stream of examples then.
Meh...most threads from the past are gone. Maybe later, I am watching football. Go get another drink.
Wow. You add so little to D&ST it's mind-boggling. Why do you bother posting here? Seriously. I mean about 90% of your posts are either 'fail', 'meh', 'lose', 'qft', 'qfe' or other such drivel. What is the fucking point?

qft

(sorry couldn't resist)

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