I was thinking debating this even further. but you know what, my 7 years in army and a year in Iraq wont let me. Ive been on the recieving end of quite a few ambushes, and real life doesnt work out like it does in video games or your wikipedia world. I guess russian soldiers are a bunch of drones that work like ducks in the water.Larkin wrote:
Everything you said just got owned by that wikipedia article.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
no matter how high you elevate yourself, it wont be high enough. I know our tanks could easily stick the gun out pointing to the moon.
if you are gonna wanna take out a 3 vehicle tank convoy youre gonna have to outnumber it with at least 3 to 1 in terms of personell. say 4 men per tank, youll want at least between 30 and 40 infantry.
this is if you want to take out the element. chances are, it will hurt you more than them in the long run. tanks are easily replaceable, insurgents arent. so, most likely, you wont see this kind of a scenario in the real world. unless you got a bunch of suiciders.
if you want to disrupt combat ops, use an ied and take off running. dont stick around a fight that you know you cant win. and the lead vehicle is not the optimum to take out for that mission. i feel like im sharing too much. its all stupid anyway, once the first tank gets hit, the area will most likely be saturated with air support from gunships and any other ground elements in sector.
these are pretty good instructions on how to get kiled by a tank convoy.Suck on that haters!!1Wikipedia wrote:
"The large convoy of the 81st brigade drove down Pervomaiskaya Street, stretching out along the road for a mile. When the first vehicles reached the Presidential Palace, the column was ambushed and came under heavy fire from Chechen small arms and rockets, directed from the roofs and basements along the street. The Chechen ambush would typically funnel the Russian armored columns into "kill zones", and then the RPG gunners would knock out the first and last vehicles in the line, thereby trapping the rest in the middle. Almost useless in an urban combat, Russian tanks were unable to elevate their tank barrels high enough to engage the top floors of many buildings, or low enough to fire into the basements."
I think i'll make a revised version based on some peoples idea that tanks are magical behemoths that are invulnerable to all forms of weaponry...but not just now, I've only just got up.
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I used to operate. I was an 11M which was Infantry (Heavy Mechanized) until they phased it out and turned everyone 11BM.O.A.B wrote:
Bradley's are cool . Do you operate a Bradley or work with one?
its a lot louder in real life and the smell the gun gives off reminds me of musty poonannyM.O.A.B wrote:
Bradley's are cool . Do you operate a Bradley or work with one?
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … ;plindex=3
So, these Bradleys look like Anti-Infantry tanks, it makes sense for them to be able to aim high, I don't think a T90, M1A2 or Challenger would be able to elevate so high. I think I'll go find out just how high tanks can elevate their turrets.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I dont know about no russian peice of shit, but my BRADLEY gun could aim at the stars.
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ask a tanker, bud. but im pretty damn sure the abrams could elevate at high degree angle...wheres Major.League.Infidel?Larkin wrote:
So, these Bradleys look like Anti-Infantry tanks, it makes sense for them to be able to aim high, I don't think a T90, M1A2 or Challenger would be able to elevate so high. I think I'll go find out just how high tanks can elevate their turrets.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I dont know about no russian peice of shit, but my BRADLEY gun could aim at the stars.
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but a tank that was further back shooting along the street could.Larkin wrote:
So, these Bradleys look like Anti-Infantry tanks, it makes sense for them to be able to aim high, I don't think a T90, M1A2 or Challenger would be able to elevate so high. I think I'll go find out just how high tanks can elevate their turrets.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I dont know about no russian peice of shit, but my BRADLEY gun could aim at the stars.
EDIT: M1A2 Abrams -
" 120 mm Rheinmetall smooth-bore gun: Very similar to the Iron Fist's main cannon. It can fire a variety of loads, including high-explosive (HE), high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT), armor-piercing explosive (AP),and armor piercing sabot-discarding solids (APSD). The turret can rotate 360 degrees and the gun can elevate 55 degrees."
Original article: http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts … Abrams.htm
55 degrees really isn't enough to reach up to the top of a tall building. This depends of course how far away the tank is but if we assume the attackers are directly above the tank there is no way it'll be able to hit them.
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True, but you can take cover from pintle mounts, harder to do so from a Hi-Ex round coming your way.Vernedead wrote:
but a tank that was further back shooting along the street could.
also your forgetting pintle mounts.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … 05147.JPEG
Make it Jupiter and i might just be interested...Ruckel wrote:
I suggest a new world order, the bf2s world. I will be the big dictator and some of you guys can be my right hand and following my will like a slave.
Then we conquer the world and go to mars.
Sounds like a good idea? PM me and we can go through the details.
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It has though. Can't remember exact details but a German officer used a single 88 in WWII to take out a colomn of around 10 or more tanks using the above method.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
doesnt work like this in the real world
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Yes I read the whole thing. But it seems that is all everyone is talking about, how to fight the russians. It gets annoying after awhile. So shut up and try seeing my point of view.Larkin wrote:
You obviously didn't read the rest of the topic. We're having a laugh...are you familiar with the notion?ghostgr wrote:
This is not the fucking Cold War. The Russians aren't going to invade and risk nuclear war. No one wants nuclear war.Larkin wrote:
If the Russians ever invaded I'd like to think we all would know what to do! Hence, I've made a simple guide for taking out Russian tank convoys.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8861 … nconn6.jpg
This is real useful lifesaving stuff you know!
EDIT: sorry about the resolution.
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … nconn6.jpg << direct link
An 88 is an artillery peice, not a bunch of rpg's and molotovs.-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
It has though. Can't remember exact details but a German officer used a single 88 in WWII to take out a colomn of around 10 or more tanks using the above method.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
doesnt work like this in the real world
A pretty big artillery piece an all.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
An 88 is an artillery peice, not a bunch of rpg's and molotovs.-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
It has though. Can't remember exact details but a German officer used a single 88 in WWII to take out a colomn of around 10 or more tanks using the above method.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
doesnt work like this in the real world
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I know that, and it was used in the way i mentioned.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
An 88 is an artillery peice, not a bunch of rpg's and molotovs.-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
It has though. Can't remember exact details but a German officer used a single 88 in WWII to take out a colomn of around 10 or more tanks using the above method.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
doesnt work like this in the real world
