now is that bush or his secretary of defense that doesn't listen? i seem to remember hearing that rummy was the one blasting the commanders for needing more troops. however, you probably know more about that than i as he was your boss. can you tell us any more here? (i'm saying this sincerely and not sarcastically).GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
except bush doesnt like listening to his generals when they all tell him "its a bad idea, this is not enough, this is destined for failure, we need more troops, what are you fucking crazy mr president"
bush just wants yes men in his company. for that, i will never like him better than clinton. forget blaming him for a war that should have never happened, I blame him for the continued mismanagement and bungling of the war so far. his decisions have led to soldiers dying needlessly. but fuck it, yall reelected him...
With all due respect I think Gore would have been a much better leader than this guy.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Still, /Gore /Kerry...
Only because you didn't have to suffer through eight years of his shady dealings with the red commie Chinese.sergeriver wrote:
With all due respect I think Gore would have been a much better leader than this guy.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Still, /Gore /Kerry...
He got killed in the debate with Dan Quayl ( sp ).
He and his wife led the charge for censoring of lyrics and they are responcible for the parental warning stickers.
He was involved in the decisions that led to the deaths of over 380 people in Waco and Oklahoma City.
and your reasoning would be? well, other than the fact that Gore invented the internet and also is a recognized climatologist?sergeriver wrote:
With all due respect I think Gore would have been a much better leader than this guy.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Still, /Gore /Kerry...
and we all know that Kerry lost the election not only due to his own 'elitist' style and do as i say but not as i do, but also because of his wife. Teresa is a wild haired, classless hag. i'm glad she's not first lady. would have given the term 'lady' a bad name
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A little note from Denmark( My own opinion)
USA / BUSH.
US started it(some might wanna say agian) ... back in 90-91´should have taken Saddam out then. (Vietnam)
US must bite it, and stay untill the end. not bail out or let the contry fall apart. atlest try to do they're best untill the IRAK goverment says blow out'a'here.
US have been the worlds Cop for to many years, thats why o'soo many around the world dispise the US. Even though US have done much good around the world. (please inform )
When we hear about the stats it's stuff like
Highschool shoot'out /killing sprea.
Some new bomb that can kill all life in 1200KM radius wtf!?
Gangwar MS13 /blood / Crips / all other no-life crackwhores.
How rich the rich are, ohh paris we must follow you every where!! for the rest of the world, got damn so sick of it.
In the US only 1 ! tv station have international News, all other have choosen not to have World news, because of low intrest from the public ?!?!
Space adventures...
and the there is the goverment.. oh dont even go there.
Bush is so stupid he would't even know where to look for his ass, even though his head is allready stuck up there. We seen this live on TV when he's asked Questions he havent got on paper before the interview. thats just so wrong he rules the worlds biggest NUKEclear arsenal.. oh well who cares he picks his nose on TV he cant start the Nukes the dont know where to look anyway (he try'ed that with North Korea)
it gives the rest of the world a picture of the US <-- War hungry, weapons loving, Rednicks that only cares for them self that's why so many says yah US only in it for the Oil.
imo.
USA / BUSH.
US started it(some might wanna say agian) ... back in 90-91´should have taken Saddam out then. (Vietnam)
US must bite it, and stay untill the end. not bail out or let the contry fall apart. atlest try to do they're best untill the IRAK goverment says blow out'a'here.
US have been the worlds Cop for to many years, thats why o'soo many around the world dispise the US. Even though US have done much good around the world. (please inform )
When we hear about the stats it's stuff like
Highschool shoot'out /killing sprea.
Some new bomb that can kill all life in 1200KM radius wtf!?
Gangwar MS13 /blood / Crips / all other no-life crackwhores.
How rich the rich are, ohh paris we must follow you every where!! for the rest of the world, got damn so sick of it.
In the US only 1 ! tv station have international News, all other have choosen not to have World news, because of low intrest from the public ?!?!
Space adventures...
and the there is the goverment.. oh dont even go there.
Bush is so stupid he would't even know where to look for his ass, even though his head is allready stuck up there. We seen this live on TV when he's asked Questions he havent got on paper before the interview. thats just so wrong he rules the worlds biggest NUKEclear arsenal.. oh well who cares he picks his nose on TV he cant start the Nukes the dont know where to look anyway (he try'ed that with North Korea)
it gives the rest of the world a picture of the US <-- War hungry, weapons loving, Rednicks that only cares for them self that's why so many says yah US only in it for the Oil.
imo.
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Sad thing is, if this was a democratic President the past 7 years, he would have been impeached in year 5.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
except bush doesnt like listening to his generals when they all tell him "its a bad idea, this is not enough, this is destined for failure, we need more troops, what are you fucking crazy mr president"
bush just wants yes men in his company. for that, i will never like him better than clinton. forget blaming him for a war that should have never happened, I blame him for the continued mismanagement and bungling of the war so far. his decisions have led to soldiers dying needlessly. but fuck it, yall reelected him...
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
I'm sure the US doesn't *want* to be part of World Police. However, one may make the argument that it's a catch-22 situation (damned if you do - damned if you don't).Danorge wrote:
US have been the worlds Cop for to many years, thats why o'soo many around the world dispise the US. Even though US have done much good around the world. (please inform )
If we don't attempt to get involved, then we are blasted for ignoring them. If we do get involved, we get blasted for interfering/occupying/killing.
I bet that Bush got sick and tired of the UN's attitude (if you don't comply, i'll write you a letter telling you how angry i am) and decided it was time for action against terrorism. Honestly, we need to root out Fascist Islam before it destroys the rest of the world. The US and some of its allies see this very clearly - unfortunately, many in the world are still asleep to this threat. wake up.
i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
NOTE: good US has done around the world? search for tsunami aid. search for aid to countries hit by earthquakes, etc. Charity contributions by Americans, etc.
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Not if this campaign actually works:Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Sad thing is, if this was a democratic President the past 7 years, he would have been impeached in year 5.
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
http://www.unity08.com/
Imagine the faces of all the politically aligned when a 3rd party candidate wins....
Apology hell.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Sad thing is, if this was a democratic President the past 7 years, he would have been impeached in year 5.
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
The liberal hatred of Bush has been misguided and mindless from day one, but that is the least and smallest of liberal ideologies failure.
I apologise to the familes of American soldiers for our entire governments bungelings.
I'm a conservative, not a republican.
You actually did reference clinton with the impeachment comment. Kennedy reference had to do with Chappaquiddick and him lying that he wasn't DUI in court. both of these are perjury. in clinton's case, as was stated, this is a impeachable offense.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Sad thing is, if this was a democratic President the past 7 years, he would have been impeached in year 5.
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from? Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal. A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vicepresident.
careful what you wish for in third party candidates. this is what caused clinton to get elected in 92. perot split the republican ticket giving enough margin to Dems to get clinton in. i'm part of the blame on that one (sorry). i was only 21 and didn't know squat except what bar has quarter drafts on Tuesdays.GATOR591957 wrote:
Not if this campaign actually works:
http://www.unity08.com/
Imagine the faces of all the politically aligned when a 3rd party candidate wins....
You should thank Perot for that.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
careful what you wish for in third party candidates. this is what caused clinton to get elected in 92. perot split the republican ticket giving enough margin to Dems to get clinton in. i'm part of the blame on that one (sorry). i was only 21 and didn't know squat except what bar has quarter drafts on Tuesdays.GATOR591957 wrote:
Not if this campaign actually works:
http://www.unity08.com/
Imagine the faces of all the politically aligned when a 3rd party candidate wins....
he still commander in cheif. responsibility goes straight to the top. Rumsfeld isnt the president.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
now is that bush or his secretary of defense that doesn't listen? i seem to remember hearing that rummy was the one blasting the commanders for needing more troops. however, you probably know more about that than i as he was your boss. can you tell us any more here? (i'm saying this sincerely and not sarcastically).GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
except bush doesnt like listening to his generals when they all tell him "its a bad idea, this is not enough, this is destined for failure, we need more troops, what are you fucking crazy mr president"
bush just wants yes men in his company. for that, i will never like him better than clinton. forget blaming him for a war that should have never happened, I blame him for the continued mismanagement and bungling of the war so far. his decisions have led to soldiers dying needlessly. but fuck it, yall reelected him...
clinton lying under oath is not a big deal? i wonder what other things he was lying about? ever hear about the word integrity? it was completely lost to the American public in the clinton whitehouse. that guy is THE BIGGEST political opportunist there ever was. The president has to be held to a higher standard. that's what libs are always saying about bush but when it comes to clinton, he gets a pass? not!sergeriver wrote:
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from? Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal. A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vicepresident.
war for oil? um...where's my free oil? i want some but i only see gas at > 3.50 a gallon (yeah yeah, europe has more expensive fuel, i know). explain more the concept here of war for oil. are we stealing it? i thought we were paying the Iraqis for any oil we buy? Actually, most of the oil contracts are being bought up by the Chinese i hear. so what is this war for oil thing.
puppet of dad? where is Bush Sr in the cabinet meetings? i seem to miss seeing his face there in any pictures i have seen.
Do you have proof or are you just spouting liberal propaganda like Rosie and Barbra Streisand?
My point was not about Clinton. My point was a democratic President would not have gotten away with the shit Bush has pulled with a Republican congress without them finding some sort of niche for impeachment.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
You actually did reference clinton with the impeachment comment. Kennedy reference had to do with Chappaquiddick and him lying that he wasn't DUI in court. both of these are perjury. in clinton's case, as was stated, this is a impeachable offense.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
But since we're talking perjury now, I Scooter Libby, no accountability from the "conservatives"......again....
Lets face facts also. Valeri Plame was leaked because her husband spoke against the war. You "conservatives" had the nerve to say she wasn't important anyway. If that was a Democratic admin leaking her name, holy shit the world would have caved in on him/her.
Live in your world big guys. I prefer reality.
I'm just talking liberal BS. Why would I bother to answer if anything I could say would be liberal BS to you?CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
clinton lying under oath is not a big deal? i wonder what other things he was lying about? ever hear about the word integrity? it was completely lost to the American public in the clinton whitehouse. that guy is THE BIGGEST political opportunist there ever was. The president has to be held to a higher standard. that's what libs are always saying about bush but when it comes to clinton, he gets a pass? not!sergeriver wrote:
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from? Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal. A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vicepresident.
war for oil? um...where's my free oil? i want some but i only see gas at > 3.50 a gallon (yeah yeah, europe has more expensive fuel, i know). explain more the concept here of war for oil. are we stealing it? i thought we were paying the Iraqis for any oil we buy? Actually, most of the oil contracts are being bought up by the Chinese i hear. so what is this war for oil thing.
puppet of dad? where is Bush Sr in the cabinet meetings? i seem to miss seeing his face there in any pictures i have seen.
Do you have proof or are you just spouting liberal propaganda like Rosie and Barbra Streisand?
unfortunately this is what happens when politicians run the war. i'm sure it would have been the same if dems were in the hot seat and not bush.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
he still commander in cheif. responsibility goes straight to the top. Rumsfeld isnt the president.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
now is that bush or his secretary of defense that doesn't listen? i seem to remember hearing that rummy was the one blasting the commanders for needing more troops. however, you probably know more about that than i as he was your boss. can you tell us any more here? (i'm saying this sincerely and not sarcastically).GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
except bush doesnt like listening to his generals when they all tell him "its a bad idea, this is not enough, this is destined for failure, we need more troops, what are you fucking crazy mr president"
bush just wants yes men in his company. for that, i will never like him better than clinton. forget blaming him for a war that should have never happened, I blame him for the continued mismanagement and bungling of the war so far. his decisions have led to soldiers dying needlessly. but fuck it, yall reelected him...
Good...at least we can agree that what you are saying is liberal BS.sergeriver wrote:
I'm just talking liberal BS. Why would I bother to answer if anything I could say would be liberal BS to you?CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
clinton lying under oath is not a big deal? i wonder what other things he was lying about? ever hear about the word integrity? it was completely lost to the American public in the clinton whitehouse. that guy is THE BIGGEST political opportunist there ever was. The president has to be held to a higher standard. that's what libs are always saying about bush but when it comes to clinton, he gets a pass? not!sergeriver wrote:
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from? Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal. A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vicepresident.
war for oil? um...where's my free oil? i want some but i only see gas at > 3.50 a gallon (yeah yeah, europe has more expensive fuel, i know). explain more the concept here of war for oil. are we stealing it? i thought we were paying the Iraqis for any oil we buy? Actually, most of the oil contracts are being bought up by the Chinese i hear. so what is this war for oil thing.
puppet of dad? where is Bush Sr in the cabinet meetings? i seem to miss seeing his face there in any pictures i have seen.
Do you have proof or are you just spouting liberal propaganda like Rosie and Barbra Streisand?
I see. Liberals hate for no reason. Your reasons are justified. You sound more like a Republican than a conservative with that one. But hey Bush is a "compassionate conservative". You guys should go jogging sometime.ATG wrote:
Apology hell.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I made no clinton reference. And the failure of Liberalism as you say, doesn't compare to the failure of conservatism the past 7 years.ATG wrote:
I totally disagree. I know this fact utterly escapes the average liberal but Clintons impeachment had nothing to do with getting a blowjob.
He lied under oath, which was his own personal failing. That, and that alone is what he was impeached for.
This highlights a failure of liberalism: ya'll want a slide scale when it comes to application of the law; as in lying under oath is an impeachable offense, unless your lying about getting your knob polished. Or about ; when you are driving a car and the passenger dies because of your perhaps DUI and leaving her to drown while you swam to shore is negligent homicide, unless your a certain parties favorite scion and the son of a booze running big business tycoon named Joe Kennedy.
Bush may be a unbelievable disaster in a dozen ways but there hasn't been any impeachable offense. Sorry, I'd like his head too.
My favorite part of the Republican party is the non-accountability. Just like you ATG. You want to let everyone know that your enlightened about our President. He isn't all you thought he was cracked up to be. The past years of "damn liberals" "bashing our President" "Being unpatriotic" "Flip Flopping" and now that you are in the same boat, its ok. Actually you owe all liberals an apology on these forums. But Im sure somehow it was the liberals fault in the first place that you had blinders on. Oh wait. It sthe Dems in Congress fault. Because we know that no Republican senators voted for the war. Or we can blame the CIA. Oh fuck it. Just live with the dick in your crack.
Glad your enlightened. Now continue to cry about liberals, Kennedy (Where that came from Im not sure) and Clinton. It doesn't change the fact your about 4-5 years behind the liberals with your opinion of Bush. How do feel being a loser to a bunch of "losers"?
Now. Prepare to vote for Fred or Rudy and start all over again with the ass fucking. Im sure you'll be enlightened again in 6 years.
The liberal hatred of Bush has been misguided and mindless from day one, but that is the least and smallest of liberal ideologies failure.
I apologise to the familes of American soldiers for our entire governments bungelings.
I'm a conservative, not a republican.
am i the only one that sees no core difference between real life liberals and conservatives? both believe they have the right to tell me how to live my life.
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big difference here is that Clinton was the one who perjured and not some lower level official.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
My point was not about Clinton. My point was a democratic President would not have gotten away with the shit Bush has pulled with a Republican congress without them finding some sort of niche for impeachment.
But since we're talking perjury now, I Scooter Libby, no accountability from the "conservatives"......again....
Lets face facts also. Valeri Plame was leaked because her husband spoke against the war. You "conservatives" had the nerve to say she wasn't important anyway. If that was a Democratic admin leaking her name, holy shit the world would have caved in on him/her.
Live in your world big guys. I prefer reality.
oh...and i agree that if Libby did perjur then he should be punished. i don't agree with Bush on that one (the pardon). but then again, how many presidential pardons did clinton give? and to whom?
it goes both ways and i'm not saying Bush is 100% golden either.
Valerie Plame is hot, by the way...anyone else notice?
Their drive for socialization. Their militarizing our domestic police. That they look you in the eye and tell you they are going to raise taxes. Their treasonous slander of Bush on one hand, and their giving him everything he asks for to fight the war. Their assault on nativity scenes. Their double standards.sergeriver wrote:
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from?
Bush is a liberal. And I hate him.
We either a nation of laws or not. The president of the unites states becomes a scofflaw and social ruin is not far behind.sergeriver wrote:
Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal.
That is propaganda.sergeriver wrote:
A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vice president.
So off base that, respectfully, I will not debate it.
Irony. Im sure only the liberals see the irony in this response. Anyway, good luck with your newfound knowledge of Bush ATG. We're all happy for you.ATG wrote:
Their drive for socialization. Their militarizing our domestic police. That they look you in the eye and tell you they are going to raise taxes. Their treasonous slander of Bush on one hand, and their giving him everything he asks for to fight the war. Their assault on nativity scenes. Their double standards.sergeriver wrote:
ATG, where does this hatred towards liberals come from?
Bush is a liberal. And I hate him.We either a nation of laws or not. The president of the unites states becomes a scofflaw and social ruin is not far behind.sergeriver wrote:
Do you realize that Clinton lying to a jury is not a big deal.That is propaganda.sergeriver wrote:
A big deal is sending thousands of troops to fight a war for oil, and lying to a whole nation about it, being a puppet of your dad and the guy who's supposed to be your vice president.
So off base that, respectfully, I will not debate it.
This comment from a person who has a sig of a wife of a former president who stays in a relationship for political convenience who also has graduated with honors from the Kerry school of flip-flopping - and let's not forget that she's still a rookie senator who forced her way into a state senate race where she could win with help from her husband's cronies, a freakin trial lawyer who served one term and who is pandering to the poor after spending millions on a new custom home that could house hundreds and paid $1,250 for a freakin haircut, and all due respect to the golden child Obama - he's not a bi-racial reincarnation of John Kennedy - he's a charismatic and well educated first term young and inexperienced senator that is being raised on a pedestal - careful it's a long fall. Also, it's pretty damned insulting to see these three in the light you put them in. Not a one of these three have any qualifications to deal with the world wide threat of the Islamic Extremest - and I'll be damned if I would even leave your lame and confused ass to hang out to dry and find out the hard wayATG wrote:
Ya know, I don't believe a thing the man says.
He could say the sky was blue, and I would go outside and check.
I voted for the man. Twice.
Go ahead, bash the fuck out of him and me.
What a disaster.
You seem to be missing the point as well, unless your point was to bash Bush without facts, the presidential race will not be against Bush. I will stand with OUR president - at least he sticks to his word and has the experience and experts to make the best decisions possible - like them or not. I would beg you to go back and look at the facts that led us to Iraq and look at the history of what happened last time a Democratic House and Senate got involved in military action (hint; millions died - but no one seems to want to remember that fact - the attitude seems to be "as long as it not an American" - the ones who people were counting on - can you live with that...) Oh, btw it was a democrat that got us involved in the conflict and also damned near started WW III - but he had charisma while he did it - that's certainly worth not keeping our commitment and omitting these facts from public history.
Hopefully you don't feel that I bashed the fuck out of you - It's just MHO.
God Bless Our Troops and Our President (said while hearing the Star Spangled Banner playing in my head)