Ok, but ATG is liberal!!!!!!!!!fadedsteve wrote:
We were duped! We were lied to pure and simple. . . .we were lied to twice!! The second time I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.Kmarion wrote:
It's actually pretty simple to understand Serge. He (Bush) lied when he ran for office. He claimed to be a "compassionate conservative", what a farce. He sold his base out and expanded the role of government. Also, do you honestly think a real conservative would promote Amnesty now? Conservatives have learned from that mistake, we tried it once before. He is not a liberal however, they would never go for tax cuts. He is the essence of Neo(New)-Conservatism.sergeriver wrote:
So, let me see if I get it. You voted for him not once, but twice. If he talks like a liberal, then you voted a liberal. Not once, but twice. Therefore, you must be a liberal yourself. Geez, I didn't know, welcome to our exclusive club.
Moreover. I could never vote for fucking John Kerry and that smug prick Edwards.
My dad had a stoke a few months back, I dont want to have one myself!!!sergeriver wrote:
Ok, but ATG is liberal!!!!!!!!!fadedsteve wrote:
We were duped! We were lied to pure and simple. . . .we were lied to twice!! The second time I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.Kmarion wrote:
It's actually pretty simple to understand Serge. He (Bush) lied when he ran for office. He claimed to be a "compassionate conservative", what a farce. He sold his base out and expanded the role of government. Also, do you honestly think a real conservative would promote Amnesty now? Conservatives have learned from that mistake, we tried it once before. He is not a liberal however, they would never go for tax cuts. He is the essence of Neo(New)-Conservatism.
Moreover. I could never vote for fucking John Kerry and that smug prick Edwards.
I smoke pot, I believe trees and dogs have souls. I would consider a one world government.
Call it what you like.
Call it what you like.
I knew it!ATG wrote:
I smoke pot, I believe trees and dogs have souls. I would consider a one world government.
Call it what you like.
That's why I rofl'd when I got elected leader of the war mongering oil guzzling neocons.
:rollseyes:
WTF ever.
WTF ever.
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Absolute Power corrupts. ATG is sounds more like an anarchist than anything else to me...lolATG wrote:
I would consider a one world government.
TG
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I voted for bush... because he seemed like the best choice out of the group of morons running for prez... go figure
Exactly! i should have posted <sarcasm> tags so it would be more clear my intentions. Everyone touts Gore as being an intellectual but he's no more an intellectual than any other elected public official. does he hold advanced scientific degrees? why is he such an expert on global warming?ReTox wrote:
/Fail... Gore did not invent the internet and where did you hear that he did? If it was "from a friend" you should Rochambeau them.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
and your reasoning would be? well, other than the fact that Gore invented the internet...sergeriver wrote:
With all due respect I think Gore would have been a much better leader than this guy.
FYI - The Internet was created by the US goverment/military back in the 40's. It wasn't called the Internet but it eventually became ARPANET whch evolved into the Internet. And Gore had fuck all to do with it. All he did, just like Clinton, was throw around some buzz words and convice people they "led the charge" when in truth their contribution (if you can even call it that) was inifinitely negligable.
Good PR maybe but absolutely no contribution to its creation.
gore 'inventing the internet' claim: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/ … cript.gore
here's a snippet (such crap comes out of this guy's mouth)!
BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.
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ATG wrote:
I would consider a one world government.
sorry, had to make the starship troopers reference
i understand what ATG is saying in his original post...
i honestly have a hard time believing any politician anymore after the past 4 years. perhaps ill just start voting independant too...this whole system needs to be looked at again.
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The only good bug is a dead bug! now...just who are the bugs?Schwarzelungen wrote:
http://www.starshiptroopers.net/sst_bot2b.gifATG wrote:
I would consider a one world government.
sorry, had to make the starship troopers reference
/FAIL all of you.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
Exactly! i should have posted <sarcasm> tags so it would be more clear my intentions. Everyone touts Gore as being an intellectual but he's no more an intellectual than any other elected public official. does he hold advanced scientific degrees? why is he such an expert on global warming?ReTox wrote:
/Fail... Gore did not invent the internet and where did you hear that he did? If it was "from a friend" you should Rochambeau them.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
and your reasoning would be? well, other than the fact that Gore invented the internet...
FYI - The Internet was created by the US goverment/military back in the 40's. It wasn't called the Internet but it eventually became ARPANET whch evolved into the Internet. And Gore had fuck all to do with it. All he did, just like Clinton, was throw around some buzz words and convice people they "led the charge" when in truth their contribution (if you can even call it that) was inifinitely negligable.
Good PR maybe but absolutely no contribution to its creation.
gore 'inventing the internet' claim: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/ … cript.gore
here's a snippet (such crap comes out of this guy's mouth)!
BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
Even though US have done much good around the world. (please inform <-- this was ment joke, with a Warbudget of 3xxx Billions.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
I'm sure the US doesn't *want* to be part of World Police. However, one may make the argument that it's a catch-22 situation (damned if you do - damned if you don't).Danorge wrote:
US have been the worlds Cop for to many years, thats why o'soo many around the world dispise the US. Even though US have done much good around the world. (please inform )
If we don't attempt to get involved, then we are blasted for ignoring them. If we do get involved, we get blasted for interfering/occupying/killing.
I bet that Bush got sick and tired of the UN's attitude (if you don't comply, i'll write you a letter telling you how angry i am) and decided it was time for action against terrorism. Honestly, we need to root out Fascist Islam before it destroys the rest of the world. The US and some of its allies see this very clearly - unfortunately, many in the world are still asleep to this threat. wake up.
i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
NOTE: good US has done around the world? search for tsunami aid. search for aid to countries hit by earthquakes, etc. Charity contributions by Americans, etc.
we need to root out Fascist Islam <-- hmm there i agree.
search for tsunami aid. search for aid to countries hit by earthquakes, etc. Charity contributions by Americans, etc <-- just like the rest of the world do ( the free world as we call us). So US is no more or less because of the conributions
I guess i have it the same way as the most of the US people (i hope) defend our contry with every thing we can. even if the treath comes within our own boarders.
A one world government is the antithesis of anarchism.Kmarion wrote:
Absolute Power corrupts. ATG is sounds more like an anarchist than anything else to me...lolATG wrote:
I would consider a one world government.
http://i17.tinypic.com/4mr80m1.jpgTG
Anyway, the only one world government that will likely exist in the future will result from the economic ties between countries that form due to the power of multinational corporations.
So, if you think about it... global capitalism is furthering the interests of forming a one world government. This is why I don't trust most corporations.
Although, I'm not an anarchist either....
As for Bush, he's a neocon, which is another way of saying a "big government conservative." He budgets like a conservative, but spends like a liberal -- the worst of both worlds.
honestly fellas, wtf is up with the growing persistence to label each other. most of us can not be classified as republican or democrat anyway; these are just the groups that we fall into by default. there are a lot of 'independent republicans' and 'independent democrats' here, so i really don't see the point, especially after the today's/yesterday's accusation/label/finger-pointing threads, of trying to fit people into groups they might not be. *sigh*ATG wrote:
I smoke pot, I believe trees and dogs have souls. I would consider a one world government.
Call it what you like.
Don't point that /FAIL at me dude, I already said it was BS.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
/FAIL all of you.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
ReTox wrote:
/Fail... Gore did not invent the internet and where did you hear that he did? If it was "from a friend" you should Rochambeau them.
FYI - The Internet was created by the US goverment/military back in the 40's. It wasn't called the Internet but it eventually became ARPANET whch evolved into the Internet. And Gore had fuck all to do with it. All he did, just like Clinton, was throw around some buzz words and convice people they "led the charge" when in truth their contribution (if you can even call it that) was inifinitely negligable.
Good PR maybe but absolutely no contribution to its creation.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
I had no knowledge of his CNN interview but anyone with any background in computers knows who created the net.
CameronPoe & Serge>ATG & Usmarine.
Thats my constructive post for the day. Hey, it beats 95% of the post on this forum.
Oh yeah, don't forget that marine is also a liberal.
Thats my constructive post for the day. Hey, it beats 95% of the post on this forum.
Oh yeah, don't forget that marine is also a liberal.
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At least define why they >us, Or be quiet.
My god you took that serious..lol. I was speaking of his general discontent with the government.Turquoise wrote:
A one world government is the antithesis of anarchism.Kmarion wrote:
Absolute Power corrupts. ATG is sounds more like an anarchist than anything else to me...lolATG wrote:
I would consider a one world government.
http://i17.tinypic.com/4mr80m1.jpgTG
Anyway, the only one world government that will likely exist in the future will result from the economic ties between countries that form due to the power of multinational corporations.
So, if you think about it... global capitalism is furthering the interests of forming a one world government. This is why I don't trust most corporations.
Although, I'm not an anarchist either....
As for Bush, he's a neocon, which is another way of saying a "big government conservative." He budgets like a conservative, but spends like a liberal -- the worst of both worlds.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
If I'm not mistaken, ATG said that he supports the idea of a one-world government.
That's kind of an odd view to have if you hate government. It's better that government be split into the smallest feasible parts, so that no one government has too much power. This is why it may eventually be necessary to split up the U.S. We're just too fucking powerful for our own good.
I know what you mean, Kmarion, but I took it seriously because it's important to note.
If you really hate government, you should do everything possible to fight the so-called "free trade" agenda.
That's kind of an odd view to have if you hate government. It's better that government be split into the smallest feasible parts, so that no one government has too much power. This is why it may eventually be necessary to split up the U.S. We're just too fucking powerful for our own good.
I know what you mean, Kmarion, but I took it seriously because it's important to note.
If you really hate government, you should do everything possible to fight the so-called "free trade" agenda.
lolATG wrote:
At least define why they >us, Or be quiet.
I know for a fact he told us to take up arms against them at least once . That's the image I had in my head.Turquoise wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, ATG said that he supports the idea of a one-world government.
That's kind of an odd view to have if you hate government. It's better that government be split into the smallest feasible parts, so that no one government has too much power. This is why it may eventually be necessary to split up the U.S. We're just too fucking powerful for our own good.
I know what you mean, Kmarion, but I took it seriously because it's important to note.
If you really hate government, you should do everything possible to fight the so-called "free trade" agenda.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I am guilty of having militant tendencies.
*shrugs* Sometimes force is necessary to enact positive changes.ATG wrote:
I am guilty of having militant tendencies.
The only problem is that most militant people aren't exactly supportive of "positive" changes.
Whatever the case, I think you'll agree with me that our government is far too corporate at this point, right?