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2007-07-13 16:49:22

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

I tried everything in the book to stop the lagging, I cleaned a whole bunch of shit with CCleaner, I turned off the Windows Firewall while playing, I uninstalled games and shit I don't use, I defragmented the hard-drive, I overclocked my video card a little bit, I scanned for spyware, i've spent over 250$ in upgrades on an OEM computer.

Basically I have"

A 2.2GHz Pentium 4
A Radeon X1650PRO 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4x
2GB RAM (not DDR2 and not dual channel)
ATA100 7200RPM 107GB Hard Drive
Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
Comcast Cable internet

[angry babbling]I can't steadily play BF2 with over 20FPS, it is not possible, not at all. I have in fact played BF2 with this much lag for a year and a half and i'm FUCKING TIRED OF IT. When you have played it this long, it becomes impossible to even imagine BF2 with smooth framerates, I try to imagine above 20 FPS but all I see is heavy choppiness. No joke, 110% serious. I wonder what it is like to not lag as I type this but I have not a clue. I'm sure it's undescribable (or would be), but I don't know at all.[/angry babbling]

So I ask you all: WHAT THE FUCK DO I NEED TO DO TO GET RID OF ALL THIS GOD DAMN FUCKING LAG

Last edited by _j5689_ (2007-07-13 17:00:58)

2007-07-13 16:51:05

chittydog: less busy; +586|7307|Kubra, Damn it!

What are your in-game video settings?

2007-07-13 16:51:18

russ)=spetsnaz: Banned; +131|6927|the guy in the hind on gator

2.2ghz is killing you

2007-07-13 16:51:28

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|7041|Portland, OR, USA

Vista?

2007-07-13 16:58:10

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

CommieChipmunk wrote:
Vista?

LMAO, FUCK THAT SILLY GARBAGE, LMAO

chittydog wrote:
What are your in-game video settings?

Everything on medium except for textures which are on high, 1024x768@85Hz(I still play on a CRT monitor), 100% view distance, no AA obviously

russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you

Would this work?

http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=110

My max possible processor speed is 2.4GHz according to a BIOS scanner.

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If you all would like to see the extent of this lag, just look at my K/D ratio.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2007-07-13 16:59:22)

2007-07-13 17:46:20

ReTox: Member; +100|6971|State of RETOXification

2GB RAM (not DDR2 and not dual channel)

There's a part of your problem, the other is the 4x AGP. 8x would be better, PCIe would be more so.

Last edited by ReTox (2007-07-13 17:49:29)

2007-07-13 18:03:26

cospengle: Member; +140|6959|Armidale, NSW, Australia

russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you

Yep. You've got no chance of playing on medium settings without lag. Have you tried it with low settings?

2007-07-13 18:07:34

LT.Victim: Member; +1,175|7034|British Columbia, Canada

Buy a new computer.

The one you have is not worth upgrading.

2007-07-13 18:11:17

White-Fusion: Fuck; +616|7023|Scotland

Play all low, with AA on X2 and your current resoloution and geomatery on medium, You will run it better.

2007-07-13 18:13:13

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

ReTox wrote:
2GB RAM (not DDR2 and not dual channel)

There's a part of your problem, the other is the 4x AGP. 8x would be better, PCIe would be more so.

The motherboard doesn't support DDR2 or dual channel RAM and the AGP slot is only version 2.0, which means it is limited to only 4x bus speed and lower. The motherboard is OEM.

2007-07-13 18:16:17

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

LT.Victim wrote:
Buy a new computer.

The one you have is not worth upgrading.

Unlike everybody here, I don't have a job and can't just pull money out of my ass to get high-end stuff.

White-Fusion wrote:
Play all low, with AA on X2 and your current resoloution and geomatery on medium, You will run it better.

I might try that, this is killing me.

2007-07-13 18:27:06

ReTox: Member; +100|6971|State of RETOXification

cospengle wrote:
russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you
Yep. You've got no chance of playing on medium settings without lag. Have you tried it with low settings?

I ran my 2 GHZ athlon and had next to no lag on all medium 1024x768 with a 6600GT. I do have DDR2, Dual Channel, and PCIe though.

_j5689_ wrote:
Unlike everybody here, I don't have a job and can't just pull money out of my ass to get high-end stuff.

As for buying, you really don't have a choice. Look for a motherboard, even discontinued, that works with what you have and has dual channel and 8x AGP. Then search E-Bay, I bet you can get one for less than $50 or maybe even cheaper. That should help reduce the lag significantly.

Last edited by ReTox (2007-07-13 18:29:21)

2007-07-13 18:36:17

Ryan: Member; +1,230|7315|Alberta, Canada

Dude, get a job, and buy a new video card. It's not that hard to figure out.

2007-07-13 18:54:16

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

ReTox wrote:
cospengle wrote:
russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you
Yep. You've got no chance of playing on medium settings without lag. Have you tried it with low settings?
I ran my 2 GHZ athlon and had next to no lag on all medium 1024x768 with a 6600GT. I do have DDR2, Dual Channel, and PCIe though.

_j5689_ wrote:
Unlike everybody here, I don't have a job and can't just pull money out of my ass to get high-end stuff.
As for buying, you really don't have a choice. Look for a motherboard, even discontinued, that works with what you have and has dual channel and 8x AGP. Then search E-Bay, I bet you can get one for less than $50 or maybe even cheaper. That should help reduce the lag significantly.

I heard somewhere that the AGP bus speed has little effect on the performance, although I guess this computer is proving otherwise. My dad won't let me get a new motherboard because he's an idiot and thinks that it would be better to just buy a new OEM computer if I did that. And everything I order would have to be through him because I don't have a fucking credit card which is a major pain in the ass because I have to convince him and all this shit that wastes both his and my time instead of just fucking ordering. I'll have to get my mom to order something.

Ryan wrote:
Dude, get a job, and buy a new video card. It's not that hard to figure out.

I can't find anyone around here that hires a 15-year old. Although my sisters friends(who are younger than me) got jobs somehow, which is fucked up. Even if I did get one, it would take forever to save up for it on minimum wage.

White-Fusion wrote:
Play all low, with AA on X2 and your current resoloution and geomatery on medium, You will run it better.

No surprise to me, it lags about the same after 1 minute in-game. Looks like i'm fucked for another year, these douche bags in charge seemed extremely jumpy to hire 16-year olds I noticed.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2007-07-13 18:56:14)

2007-07-13 19:15:54

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7237|Cambridge (UK)

It is probably your motherboard that is the problem.

Now, you might be able to find a replacement that is compatible with your CPU and Video Card.

The RAM is also not helping. But, a motherboard upgrade is likely to mean a RAM upgrade as well. (though, again, you might be able to find something better and compatible).

HDDs not brilliant, but with 2Gig and running the settings you are, you shouldn't be getting lag from swap-file usage.

Video Card - are you sure on the specs you've listed? do you mean the X1650 PRO AGP? which has 512MB DDR2 and is AGP 4x/8x?
If so, it's probably about 3/4 the performance of my X800XT PE AGP - so the card is good, the motherboard it's plugged into is making it shit.

Sound Card good. Very good. Best bit of the kit.

CPU - hmm... okayish... but finding a cheap replacement, isn't going to be easy - so you're probably gonna want a mobo compatible with that too.

Now, as you've said you don't have a job, you're probably reading that and thinking "SHIT!", and would rather find some free ways to grab some more fps's...

Right, to start with I'd drop all your settings to low - everything on the absolute lowest it can go - minimum - with your system you're better off starting there and working up, rather than starting higher and working down.

Then, select the screen resolution that you're most comfortable playing with (or best suits your monitor).

Now, play at those settings for while - get a feel for it... and use 'renderer.drawfps 1' to monitor your framerates.

Now, you want to increase the video settings in the following order:

1st. Texture Filtering - in fact, this is very low cost feature and you may be able whack this straight up to High without too much frame rate loss.
2nd. Terrain, Geometry and Textures - in that preference order - these mainly hit the ram - you're not going to be able to take them very high, because of your AGP 4x, so take them up one at a time, increase one a notch, play test and monitor frame rates, then go onto the next one, and so on.
3rd. Effects, Lighting - Effects ram and video card and CPU - Lighting is mostly down to video card performance, but they're both high-cost features.
4th. Dynamic Shadows and Dynamic Lighting - these are hit cpu, ram and video card - very-high-cost features.

Finally, you'll notice I didn't mention Anti-Aliasing - AA is relatively cheap on ATI cards, so adjust the above settings first, then try it with 2x AA - if it's a big slow, try knocking one or two of the later of the above settings down a notch.

All the way along you want to be testing small increments of single settings each time.

Testing in single player is both a good idea and not so good an idea - it allows you to more quickly get a feel for a lot of small increments, but as your starting to reach the point where your system start creaking, you'll need to start testing on multiplayer - to take internet latency into account.

Finally, there are a few things you should check in Catalyst Control Center:

1. AA and AF - should be set to 'Use application settings'.
2. Mipmap detail level - should be on 'Performance'.
3. Vertical Refresh on 'Performance (Always Off)'.
4. Experiment with Adaptive AA - some times it helps, sometimes not - but leave it on 'Performance'
5. Experiment with Catalyst AI - again some times it help - sometimes on 'Standard', sometimes on Advanced, sometimes Off.
6. Enable geometry instancing - ON - under 'More settings'.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-07-13 19:23:54)

2007-07-13 19:52:36

cospengle: Member; +140|6959|Armidale, NSW, Australia

ReTox wrote:
cospengle wrote:
russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you
Yep. You've got no chance of playing on medium settings without lag. Have you tried it with low settings?
I ran my 2 GHZ athlon and had next to no lag on all medium 1024x768 with a 6600GT. I do have DDR2, Dual Channel, and PCIe though.

My 2Gz Athlon was maxing out at 100% usage the whole time I was playing, but I had a 5200FX and it was 8xAGP.

2007-07-13 19:58:16

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6997|South Florida

russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you

I play with a single core 2.0 ghz amd (3200+) on highest settings and it doesnt cause lag. But ive also got a 7800gt

viruses are the number 1 cause of shit performance. i suggest a reformat because thats the only way for a newb to be completely sure there comp is virus free.

Last edited by Mitch (2007-07-13 19:59:13)

15 more years! 15 more years!

2007-07-13 20:52:32

ReTox: Member; +100|6971|State of RETOXification

Mitch wrote:
russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you
I play with a single core 2.0 ghz amd (3200+) on highest settings and it doesnt cause lag. But ive also got a 7800gt

viruses are the number 1 cause of shit performance. i suggest a reformat because thats the only way for a newb to be completely sure there comp is virus free.

QFT, do a spyware scan as well.

2007-07-13 22:16:39

T.Pike: 99 Problems . . .; +187|6754|Pennsyltucky

Have you tried adjusting your PunkBuster settings?

Don't have a link but go to the PB Forums and do a Search.

There's a legitimate way to make PB scan your system only every 500 seconds instead of the default.

That makes a difference for some people.

2007-07-13 22:57:31

Jbrar: rawr; +86|7013|Winterpeg, Canada

How old's the 2.2 ghz p4? I can tell you now that i've seen even a p4 @ 2.6 lag like shit. The old intel chips were a little on the slow side before c2d.

2007-07-13 23:18:06

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7188

Ryan wrote:
Dude, get a job, and buy a new video card. It's not that hard to figure out.

If Cryan can get a good PC, so can you!

https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png

2007-07-14 00:45:00

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

Dude i'm 15 ...

3.0Ghz P4 w/ Ht
Stock Gigabyte Mobo
1.5G PC3200 Dual Channel RAM
512mb Palit 7900GS
Creative X-fi Extreme Gamer Sound Card
80GB 7200RPM Internal HD + 250GB external HD
19" Acer Widescreen Monitor
Razer Diamondback Plasma 1600 DPi Gaming Mouse
I.T Works 5.1 Speakers
Logitech Precision Gaming Headset

Gotta work! Get a paper round ... it's how i got all that ^

2007-07-14 02:54:35

claor: Member; +39|6886|Australia

play on 800 X 600 All low/off, no AA and you willl get better frames.. playable frames...
i would start saving for a new computer if i was you...

2007-07-14 03:00:58

wargallion: Member; +5|6946|Sweden

_j5689_ wrote:
ReTox wrote:
2GB RAM (not DDR2 and not dual channel)

There's a part of your problem, the other is the 4x AGP. 8x would be better, PCIe would be more so.
The motherboard doesn't support DDR2 or dual channel RAM and the AGP slot is only version 2.0, which means it is limited to only 4x bus speed and lower. The motherboard is OEM.

he is right the problem is that u dont have PCIe and dont have dual channel, u wanna get rid of the probs? buy a new motherboard, ram and new graphic card. that will help ya alot. Gl on getting the new parts... u wont regret it !!!

2007-07-14 03:03:24

wargallion: Member; +5|6946|Sweden

Mitch wrote:
russ)=spetsnaz wrote:
2.2ghz is killing you
I play with a single core 2.0 ghz amd (3200+) on highest settings and it doesnt cause lag. But ive also got a 7800gt

viruses are the number 1 cause of shit performance. i suggest a reformat because thats the only way for a newb to be completely sure there comp is virus free.

lol dude turn off ur virus program while playing and the game will run even better.

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