Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7219|Noizyland

Was browsing YouTube just before and noticed this ad.
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/Tyferra/WoWOMG.gif

That is fucking pathetic. Not only do these people spend all their time playing World of Warcraft, they find people who are willing to pay them for playing the game for them. That is ridiculous.
This is another example of a booming World of Warcraft industry starting up, it leads me to wonder how long it will take for World of Warcraft to be declared illegal under drug legislation. It's known to be addictive, it has destroyed families, it changes people's moods, it withdraws them from society. It's quite creepy when yo think about it.

So I guess there is now a group of people who do nothing but level up other people's World of Warcraft characters as their life. One day they will look back and look at what they've accomplished and truly regret their lives. Oh well, I'm sure that's worth it for the slight buzz one can get from the game.

----------The REAL point of this thread---------------
Computer games are known for triggering the release endomorphines which essentially tell your brain that you're doing something that you like and is good or you. Exercise does the same thing. However endomorphines are fickle, their message is to essentially tell your brain that you're doing something that you like and is good for you, (not one or the other,) and because of this joined message, (what's good for you and what you like are often two very different things,) endomorphines can be triggered by many different things. Most drugs trigger them. Cigarettes trigger them, they're made with chemicals that specifically target the release of endomorphines. So are computer games, although not with chemicals of course but with entertainment and scenarios which raise your heart-rate and trigger these endomorphines.

This is not a bad thing, endomorphines are good and it's good to be entertained, or to feel euphoric after seeing a good movie, going for a good run or playing an action-packed game. As always though you can't have too much of a good thing. Endomorphines can cause diseases such as cancer, change our moods or give us withdrawal symptoms if we don't get our 'fix'. It does have the same effects o a damaging drugs, it hasn't been a concern in past years because humans weren't constantly in scenarios where they're doing things that are NOT good for them and still getting the 'feel good, doing good' message from the endomorphinse. Sitting on your arse and playing games is not good for you, I'm sure we all appreciate that.
With computer games we constantly put ourselves in scenarios which trigger them, it's an easy rush. Games alone though can get boring and we take a break from them. Some games though have hooks to keep you playing. This is mostly so companies can sell you add-ons later on if they so feel like it and you will still be interested in buying them. In Battlefield 2 and 2142 EA implemented awards an ranks which has hooked many a player. But Blizzard and World of Warcraft has been even more successful at this. They constantly make add-ons and have recently released an expansion, their interests are even more because people constantly pay. No-one's denying that World of Warcraft is incredibly addictive, a friend of mine who dislikes computer gaming in general was up to level forty before he realised that he didn't actually like the game.

Do other people share this concern where games are purposefully made addictive? I've always disliked games like World of Warcraft because of it's addictive nature, but now with small businesses being set up and selling WoW assets online it seems that the digital drug is gaining even more dealers. Addictive games do have the same effects of illegal drugs, do you think a line will ever be drawn or restrictions will be made on additions to gaming to make them addicting illegal?

Anyway I've written way too much so I'm not bothered to read over it to see if this has made any sense.
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d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6898|Ontario, Canada
This is nothing new, but I see your point.

Last edited by d4rkst4r (2007-07-16 16:48:52)

"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
elite3444
The other kid
+24|7082|USA
i still play WoW a bit and i have nothing against the powerleveling (what ur talkin about) but when u put it that ppl make a company that ppl pay them to play there characters...that is pathetic
duk0r
Administrator
+306|7113|Austin, TX

This has been around for a while with other MMORPGs. I remember when I used to play Ultima Online back in the day, I sold a house for 2 million gold. Turned around and sold each million for $50, making a grand total of $100 (deduct that from monthly price over a few years and it means nothing). Shit like this has been going on for years. But you sure as hell can't make a living off doing that. If I got $300 bucks for 20-26 days worth of work I would be PISSED (and homeless)!
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TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7065|Mhz

And this is why MMOs are riddled with bot farmers, look on ebay for in game cash for ANY MMO game, Lineage II is probabaly the worst for it, half the 'players' are just bot drones farming cash with automted commanders allllllllll daaaaaaaayyyy long, you can sell your cash to these companies (yes there are companies set up for this shit) and they'll sell it off again for more, they makes millions off it every year.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7211|UK
No one plays it. They are called bots. They arent even new. This is old as the MMO industry and is hardly singular to wow.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7219|Noizyland

My point extends a bit beyond this 'level shop' but to addictive games in general. I know it's long but maybe read it before you decide to comment.
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VaLzbeStoNeD
Member
+17|6581
@powerelvling:
There was a TV program about it, on Planete I believe. People who do that USUALLY come from poor countries, where there is no "real" job. That's the way they gain the money for living, and the living doesn't cost them a lot, since they spend most of time playin these games.
Also, I find buying gold/powerlvling the noofuck!inbest thing on the world, I don't care if you say "got no time to lvl my char", yeah, but you have enough time to play it and be a fawkin noob who pisses off everyone around him...

@WoW
I've got a "real"+"friend" who's been playing for 118 hours for 7 past days... he's a total-wow-loving-forgettin-about-reallife maniac.
And yeah, I've been playin WoW myself for half year. One of my "friends" said I'm addicted, and I was like "No way mate, I can stop if I want to",
and I just stopped, not instantly of course, but I'm cured I think, don't wanna play this game anymore.

@Your opinion
And I disagree about makin games like WoW illegal, just because someone decided to jump out of window after losing his Tier 10000 set. It's not the game who told him "C'mon! Jump! There's nothing worth left in your life/account! Just quit it!", the problem is in the ppl, if they're too weak to quit/treat it like a game they deserve a... lesson. Imo, it all depends on the person who plays the game.
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|7090|Ohio
this level 7 night elf druid disagrees: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/chara … ;n=Tyferra
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7219|Noizyland

I don't agree to making games like WoW illegal, I think it's just an issue that needs raising.

Edit: Paco, that's not me. I did play WoW once, I got a level 8 Night Elf Rogue, it's name probably was Tyferra too, although I'm sure my mate deleted it off his account. I never got my own game as such, having tried it on my mate's account I quickly got bored and left.

Last edited by Ty (2007-07-16 17:22:17)

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cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6734|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

Paco_the_Insane wrote:

this level 7 night elf druid disagrees: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/chara … ;n=Tyferra
Roffle, Ty looks like a girl.

https://i.imgur.com/PfIpcdn.gif
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6786|Atlanta, Georgia
I'll take 4
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6925|Somewhere else

I see your point.  I agree.   But somehow, there has to be some kind of way this is profitable enough to be worthwhile.  I don't play WOW.  But I wonder if there is someway you could maybe have multiple accounts running per person on a few computers, or Macros, i don't know.... 

If it takes you Hours and hours to level up in WOW, no one in thier right mind would work for 136$ for two weeks.   There has to be a catch.  Or, maybe, 

WoW sweat shops?  Hmm.  That might be interesting.

I could work 8 hours a day on Wow for the right money.  I could be on Xfire chatting, maybe watching a porn on a mobile Dvd player, I'd do it if I was paid enough, that being the key.
Noobpatty
ʎʇʇɐdqoou
+194|6799|West NY
I remember on the news some guy killed himself w/ a revolver 'cause one of his fave characters died in everquest...that was a big opening for an attack on games...lately, go ahead, laugh, I've been playing maple story. They warn at 3 hours that you should take a break. Yeah. I've gotten this message. And i'd admit I'm addicted to this game for I don't realize how fast the hours go by as I play. Luckily it tells you how many hours at the hour intervals. If someone doesn't present something to me, or if I dont hook my router up so I can get xbox live, this game is all I'm gonna do this summer. I'm zombified. Parents leave. I play all day. Damn. I can't pull myself away once I start. But, like when I was 10 and playing runescape (    /suicide     //===]---(X_X)---> ) if I just step away, I'll realize how worthless it really is.

Edit. Wow sucks alot.

Edit 2. Bf2 pwnz wow.

Last edited by Noobpatty (2007-07-16 17:37:43)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|7026|the dank(super) side of Oregon
I have absolutely no experience with WOW.  I'm curious, is the addiction to the game itself, like a lab rat pounding the feeder bar, or is the addiction to the community experience?

I can't play BF2 for more that a few hours alone but if I'm bullshitting on vent with a bunch of buddies, I can play for 6 or 8 hours at a time.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-07-16 17:46:13)

S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6892|Chicago, IL
Hey, getting paid to play games isnt that bad of an idea, Its the idiots who pay to bypass most of the game they just paid for that we should be concerned about.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7209|Dallas
I buy Guild Wars gold quite often.

Why?

Because I'm too lazy to farm and have lots of cash laying around that I can feel free to blow. 

If there is a problem with that, then perhaps you should come work my job for me, pay my bills and give me an allowance so that you can tell me what to do with my own money.  Also, if you think spending money on this is pointless/stupid/etc, look around and make sure you haven't spent money on any of the following before speaking further:

Rims.
Shoes that cost more than $60.
A loud or "bumping" car stereo system.
A keyboard or mouse that cost more than $20, respectively.
Junk food.
Jewelry.
...or anything else that really doesn't serve a purpose.

For the rest of you who answered "No" to all of the above and still have a problem with it, I simply say this:

"Suck my dick."

It's my money and I'll fucking burn it in front of starving orphans if I wish.
BVC
Member
+325|7140
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 … lect_N.htm

A couple is too busy gaming to feed their kid.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7217|PNW

You miss the point. People use WoW bots for this paid leveling.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

What concerns me is people still play BF2 and care about the stats.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7217|PNW

usmarine2005 wrote:

What concerns me is people still play BF2 and care about the stats.
Yeah, but I got a silver tank badge and medal today! Woot.
-|TS|-owNzu7
Member
+6|6864
Yes.  World of Warcraft is messed up. I have friends that play it. They are not the same anymore.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

What concerns me is people still play BF2 and care about the stats.
Yeah, but I got a silver tank badge and medal today! Woot.
I am retired till COD4
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7217|PNW

usmarine2005 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

What concerns me is people still play BF2 and care about the stats.
Yeah, but I got a silver tank badge and medal today! Woot.
I am retired till COD4
Ah, yes...at least I'll have Crysis and WiC to keep me busy until then. Gave ArmA a shot, but it was too glitchy for my taste.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-07-16 21:17:39)

topthrill05
Member
+125|7023|Rochester NY USA
Cougar happens to be right, my buddy paid for his character to be lvled to 60 because he didn't have the time but wanted to raid. Would I have spent the $100 bucks? No. But it's his damn money and he can do what he wants with it.

I don't see this being an issue for anyone other then Blizzard.

Last edited by topthrill05 (2007-07-16 21:20:42)

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