sergeriver wrote:
No need to get mad at me. Let's discuss this like grown ups.
There's a huge difference in being guilty of not doing and being guilty of doing. While, you both may be right about Clinton failing to get Bin Laden, you can't deny Bush is guilty for lying to America about WMD's and invading a country using false evidence. He's guilty of making a mess of Iraq. Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden, he couldn't accomplish. Bush fails by doing wrong things. Huge difference. We can discuss the economy if you want and most people will agree that the country was better under Clinton. He lied to a grand jury, big deal, GWB lied to America and the World.
I'm not angry at all....I just get tired of the finger pointing at one person, one situation when there is plenty of blame to go around. Let's be clear about one thing. There has been a republican congress since the days of Reagan. Even when Clinton was president, if I am not mistaken. So saying that the economy was better under Clinton is just not correct. As I have said, Bush can not take full responsibility for a good economy...it is the people under him....just as you said about Clinton could not take blame because of the people directly beneath him (excluding Lewinsky). The Republican congress can take some credit for the economy even under Clinton.
As far as the whole grand jury BS...yes, it was a joke, just like some of the hearings about all sorts of BS aimed at the Republican party in the past couple of years. Its the nature of our government sometimes. Whoever is president, Republican or Democrat...will be the target and no matter how small the slip up or sperm on a dress, we spend millions of dollars on stupid hearings just so that one party can get a leg up on the other. Its a soap opera half of the time.
Note: Recently, the head of the Chinese food and drug administration(I think that was his position) was executed for taking bribes and letting things slide because of contacts, bribery. He was EXECUTED ......can you imagine that type of punishment for people taking bribes, doing favors in Washington or in MANY government around the world. Damn....I think we would run out of Congress members really, really quick....Even Hillary Clinton would have a bullet to her head for some of the money tricks she has played in the past....All I am saying is quit blaming one person and forgiving others...when THEY ALL CAN BE BLAMED.
I tell you what....I hope some day Americans will be smart enough to pick a president that puts America first. This partisan BS, favors, lobbying, etc, etc, etc. need to go and the president and the American Congress need to be people who are BEST for the job and not based on a certain party, which at this point is always one of two choices....think about it....last election we had Gore or Bush......ummmmm....who do you choose???LOL ....one rich, hypocrite over another? If Gore was voted in, we would be in the SAME mess we are now...don't forget that. Gore was actually critical of our reaction to 9/11 and was pushing for action long before we did anything the second time in Iraq, if I am not mistaken there is a video of exactly what I just pointed out. Gore was ready for war too...so don't kid yourselves. It stinks to have only 2 choices every 4 years...somehow that needs to be changed.
