Wasnt the ROC on the UN Security Counsel(spelling?) before?Bubbalo wrote:
Somewhat more complex because they were recognised by the Soviet bloc, but that argument could certainly be made.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
so the peoples republic of china wasnt a country until they were recognized in the 1970's.
After the shitstorm they've been kicking up they'd have to, or be laughed at. The real question is whether they push it, or just make a token military movement.Pubic wrote:
So, if ROC did the whole formal declaration of independence thing, does anyone think PRC would actually invade or just talk about it?
I've never said that Palestine is a nation: just that it should be.ATG wrote:
But if the Palestinians aren't recognized and therefor have no claim to Israeli soil does that mean you and Serge will finally stfu about them?
Yep. They were ousted when the PRC was brought on. The US had maintained that the RoC was China, despite the fact that it only maintained control over Taiwan, which sorta meant they had to give up Taiwan when the PRC was recognised.Commie Killer wrote:
Wasnt the ROC on the UN Security Counsel(spelling?) before?
Wait, wasn't the whole UN thing about Chiang Kai Shek quitting because China got a seat?Bubbalo wrote:
After the shitstorm they've been kicking up they'd have to, or be laughed at. The real question is whether they push it, or just make a token military movement.Pubic wrote:
So, if ROC did the whole formal declaration of independence thing, does anyone think PRC would actually invade or just talk about it?I've never said that Palestine is a nation: just that it should be.ATG wrote:
But if the Palestinians aren't recognized and therefor have no claim to Israeli soil does that mean you and Serge will finally stfu about them?Yep. They were ousted when the PRC was brought on. The US had maintained that the RoC was China, despite the fact that it only maintained control over Taiwan, which sorta meant they had to give up Taiwan when the PRC was recognised.Commie Killer wrote:
Wasnt the ROC on the UN Security Counsel(spelling?) before?
If Taiwan declared independece, it will be like Tibet, but with a shitload more people, technology and much better army.
I'm pretty sure they were kicked off, but I could be wrong (I certainly have been in the past).cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Wait, wasn't the whole UN thing about Chiang Kai Shek quitting because China got a seat?
You do know Tibet lost?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
If Taiwan declared independece, it will be like Tibet, but with a shitload more people, technology and much better army.
That's what I'm saying. We would get our ass raped, then our president will travel around the world meeting celebrities and begging for their help and build CIA training camps in Taiwan.Bubbalo wrote:
I'm pretty sure they were kicked off, but I could be wrong (I certainly have been in the past).cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Wait, wasn't the whole UN thing about Chiang Kai Shek quitting because China got a seat?You do know Tibet lost?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
If Taiwan declared independece, it will be like Tibet, but with a shitload more people, technology and much better army.
About the UN thing: I think Chiang quit the UN just coz the PRC got a seat.
Which is exactly what you just said...............
If Taiwan falls, the Pres won't be travelling anywhere. It'll be over.
If Taiwan falls, the Pres won't be travelling anywhere. It'll be over.
Have you heard of the nuclear weapons program? I'm pretty sure some crack head general will detonate nukes in our own cities to destroy the Chinese. But it depends if Taiwan gets any help outside. Singapore and Japan might side with Taiwan, but we won't know till the time has come. The US will come defiantly. But an insurgency might follow after woulds.Bubbalo wrote:
Which is exactly what you just said...............
If Taiwan falls, the Pres won't be travelling anywhere. It'll be over.
Taiwan doesn't have nukes. Even if they do, and they use them, China still wins.
The US may not defend Taiwan: they have very carefully avoided declaring that they will defend Taiwan in an invasion.
The US may not defend Taiwan: they have very carefully avoided declaring that they will defend Taiwan in an invasion.
Nobody helped Tibet. Nobody could (or, unfortunately, wanted to) So they just let them Invade and take it over. Now when you get important places like Kuwait (self explanatory) or Taiwan getting invaded, then everybody cares. Although Taiwan doesn't seem that important (Just like Tibet) so I'm not so sure if anyone would help if they were invaded.
That's my take on it.
That's my take on it.
Where was your computer made in again? Worlds computing industry would be fucked if Taiwan was to be invaded.Mekstizzle wrote:
Nobody helped Tibet. Nobody could (or, unfortunately, wanted to) So they just let them Invade and take it over. Now when you get important places like Kuwait (self explanatory) or Taiwan getting invaded, then everybody cares. Although Taiwan doesn't seem that important (Just like Tibet) so I'm not so sure if anyone would help if they were invaded.
That's my take on it.
No it wouldn't. They'd just build factories somewhere else.
With all the CEO's from major firms being dead after Taipei is being bombed the shit out of? I don't think so bubs.Bubbalo wrote:
No it wouldn't. They'd just build factories somewhere else.
You don't get it do you? Those firms would just be ignored and die. New ones would take their place. That's capitalism.
You do realize 95% of the worlds computing bussiness is Taiwanese owned right... I doubt anything will replace it in even 3 years.Bubbalo wrote:
You don't get it do you? Those firms would just be ignored and die. New ones would take their place. That's capitalism.
I never realised Bill Gates was from Taiwan....................
Taiwan was reclaimed for China in the Qing Dynasty by Zheng Cheng Gong. You can't expect a country to willingly give up its territory.
Taiwan was taken over by the Japanese for 50 years. I don't see anybody from the Qing Dynasty, do you?Vub wrote:
Taiwan was reclaimed for China in the Qing Dynasty by Zheng Cheng Gong. You can't expect a country to willingly give up its territory.
Uh..........no, it wasn't. It has a long history of existence and non-violence.Flecco wrote:
1) Tibet was created by the British to fuck with China.
I know he did. My point is that Taiwan makes the parts, but most of the companies that matter aren't based their. They'd just go somewhere else.Flecco wrote:
Oh and Bubs, he means hardware components, mobos, RAM, GPUs, CPUs.... Not software. The worlds computing industry would struggle for a few months, possibly a year... Then it would recover.
It would probably be more expensive to move the factories though and still maintain the expertise required for the work at a lower cost.Bubbalo wrote:
Uh..........no, it wasn't. It has a long history of existence and non-violence.Flecco wrote:
1) Tibet was created by the British to fuck with China.I know he did. My point is that Taiwan makes the parts, but most of the companies that matter aren't based their. They'd just go somewhere else.Flecco wrote:
Oh and Bubs, he means hardware components, mobos, RAM, GPUs, CPUs.... Not software. The worlds computing industry would struggle for a few months, possibly a year... Then it would recover.
Sounds like Ace Combat 5 lol.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Have you heard of the nuclear weapons program? I'm pretty sure some crack head general will detonate nukes in our own cities to destroy the Chinese. But it depends if Taiwan gets any help outside. Singapore and Japan might side with Taiwan, but we won't know till the time has come. The US will come defiantly. But an insurgency might follow after woulds.Bubbalo wrote:
Which is exactly what you just said...............
If Taiwan falls, the Pres won't be travelling anywhere. It'll be over.
Taiwan has the worlds tallest building -until yesterday.
Ah yes replaced by this the Burj DubaiGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Taiwan has the worlds tallest building -until yesterday.
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I know, I know I checked my facts.Bubbalo wrote:
Uh..........no, it wasn't. It has a long history of existence and non-violence.Flecco wrote:
1) Tibet was created by the British to fuck with China.I know he did. My point is that Taiwan makes the parts, but most of the companies that matter aren't based their. They'd just go somewhere else.Flecco wrote:
Oh and Bubs, he means hardware components, mobos, RAM, GPUs, CPUs.... Not software. The worlds computing industry would struggle for a few months, possibly a year... Then it would recover.
I look like a real twat now. Rofl.
Non violence? Wasn't it once an empire........
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Heh, how did you think the priests kept their power? The tool of oppression of course.Flecco wrote:
I know, I know I checked my facts.Bubbalo wrote:
Uh..........no, it wasn't. It has a long history of existence and non-violence.Flecco wrote:
1) Tibet was created by the British to fuck with China.I know he did. My point is that Taiwan makes the parts, but most of the companies that matter aren't based their. They'd just go somewhere else.Flecco wrote:
Oh and Bubs, he means hardware components, mobos, RAM, GPUs, CPUs.... Not software. The worlds computing industry would struggle for a few months, possibly a year... Then it would recover.
I look like a real twat now. Rofl.
Non violence? Wasn't it once an empire........
hey, M14s are awsome..... they dont jam like the M16sk30dxedle wrote:
What do you (we, I'm Taiwanese) have again? Like, 30 Hueys, 30 Cobras, French and funnily named indigenous jets, and some old M14s?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
He's Australian actually.Tjasso wrote:
president Bubs from the USA
To Ruckel:
PLA is no doubt advancing and is becoming a threat, and our leaders still want to cut our already low military budget...
Rofl, doesn't this sound like the NZ military...Smitty5613 wrote:
hey, M14s are awsome..... they dont jam like the M16sk30dxedle wrote:
What do you (we, I'm Taiwanese) have again? Like, 30 Hueys, 30 Cobras, French and funnily named indigenous jets, and some old M14s?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
He's Australian actually.
To Ruckel:
PLA is no doubt advancing and is becoming a threat, and our leaders still want to cut our already low military budget...
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.