Curtor
Member
+6|6622|Canada
Yea!  Another person turning to ask the BF2s forum experts about their opinion on a new computer rig!
So, I was pretty much decided to get the E6850, but after reading some posts on forums besides this one, it seems that forums are either one way or the other, and it is difficult to get a set opinion without everyone agreeing with the person that posted above them.  So post YOUR opinions!  I'd like feedback, specifically on which CPU I should be getting if I do not intend to upgrade for at least 2 years, use the computer mostly for gaming, and Adobe Premier from time to time.  Also note that I do not overclock my system, so do not say 'get that one for overclocking potential.  (I know that it boosts performance and whatnot, but I don't want to until I feel the CPU is obsolete anyway, besides the warranty issues.)
Feel free to point out if there are any bottle necks elsewhere in the system as well, but note that this is pretty much pushing my budget to get what is on here now.

CPU >
E6850 // Dual Core Duo // Conroe // 3 GHz // FSB 1333 // L2 Cache 4MB // VT/TXT/EIST/Intel 64/XD
OR
Q6600 // Quad Core // Kentsfield // 2.4 GHz // FSB 1066 // L2 Cache 2 x 4MB // VT/EIST/Intel 64/XD

Motherboard >
EVGA nForce 680i SLI NVIDIA Socket 775 ATX Motherboard (New T1 Version) / Audio / PCI Express / SLI / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

RAM >
OCZ Platinum Revision-2 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 x 1024MB)

Video Card >
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS Superclocked / 640MB GDDR3 / SLI Ready / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card

Sound Card >
Will be using the one onboard for now

Power Supply >
Included with Case

Case >
Ultra Grid ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB, Audio Ports and Ultra XVS-Series 700-Watt Power Supply


<< Stuff I already own that doesn’t get revised, but are here for reference>>
Hard Drives >
2 x 160 GB Maxtor Sata

CD/DVD Drives >
Not sure exact model (At work right now)
Sony CD Burner
Ben-Q DVD Burner

Floppy Drive >
OK, this doesn’t even matter anymore.  The computer just looks complete with it.

Headset >
Plantronics .Audio™ 350 Ultimate Performance Headset

Joystick >
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick with 12 Button


Thanks a lot everyone!
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7022|UK

I agree with your CPU choice, its quicker than the quad core, and as I said in another thread not so long ago, it isnt really a quad core, its two E6600's glued together For what you are using it for, I think the dual core is the smarter choice so yea, E6850.

Great motherboard, but that is really a overclocking board, if you arent going to do so, you may wanna drop down and save a tad cash?  If you stay with it though, remember to install the fan, it runs pretty hot.

RAM looks fine

Wouldnt bother with a factory OC graphics card, buy the standard and OC that using ntune or something IF you have to, there all the same thing anyway.  Also to note, the 640 is for higher res/size monitors, as in 22'' and 1600+ resolutions, if you arent using that, I reccomend the 320, it is actually quicker on the smaller screens.  And, the 640, may not any better on the high rez afterall, read this

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6598.html

Course, that might be wrong

Usually, I would say dont use a PSU that comes with a case, and I have never heard of that brand, I'd say you are better off with well known brands like enermax, seasonic and OCZ to name a few.

Looks good all in all, and with that board, you can thrown in another GTS in a year or something if it is starting to strugle with the new games.

Martyn
cospengle
Member
+140|6960|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Curtor wrote:

2 x 160 GB Maxtor Sata
Please don't put those anywhere near the other components you've chosen.
But then again, some people enjoy doing a monthly reinstall.
Curtor
Member
+6|6622|Canada

cospengle wrote:

Curtor wrote:

2 x 160 GB Maxtor Sata
Please don't put those anywhere near the other components you've chosen.
But then again, some people enjoy doing a monthly reinstall.
?
Forgive me, but please explain.
cospengle
Member
+140|6960|Armidale, NSW, Australia
Sorry, my reply was a bit cryptic. I've had multiple problems with maxtor drives. I think it would be a pity to use those in your new system since the specs you're talking about should be a pleasure to use, not a chore. Get some decent HDDs.

EDIT: Well actually good HDDs aren't at the top of my shopping list, but I simply have it in for Maxtor after I had 3 (three) break down in a row (all still under warranty).

Last edited by cospengle (2007-07-20 08:34:44)

Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6920|Boulder, CO
That graphics cards great it is properly factory overclocked as well, the stock speeds 500Mhz that cards is 576Mhz, as you can probably tell i have it, you don't get any games with it at all but thats why its slightly cheaper than some others and EVGA have great customer service too as well as the fact that that graphics card has a 10 year warranty in the Uk and maybe canada, midn you in the US its a lifetime warranty so i don't know whether that has the lifetime warranty. Either way it is a great card.

He said he didn't want to overclock it, besides there's only about a tenner difference in price anyway for an above 10% difference in clock speed.
JaMrulezass
Member
+47|6937|Hong Kong
Save the 680i and go with the P35 :p much better in terms of support, faster and penryn support!! And you probably will never go SLI.
Curtor
Member
+6|6622|Canada

JaMrulezass wrote:

Save the 680i and go with the P35 :p much better in terms of support, faster and penryn support!! And you probably will never go SLI.
This one?
Smithereener
Member
+138|6788|California

Curtor wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

Save the 680i and go with the P35 :p much better in terms of support, faster and penryn support!! And you probably will never go SLI.
This one?
I think a lot of people will tell you to steer clear of Intel mobos. But eh, what do I know. And about the Maxtor Drives. I've seen countless negative reviews about their drives, try Seagate, I think they're one of the most reliable.
r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6921

Bell wrote:

Also to note, the 640 is for higher res/size monitors, as in 22'' and 1600+ resolutions, if you arent using that, I reccomend the 320, it is actually quicker on the smaller screens.
So will a GTX, be useless with a "17 monitor?
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7022|UK

r'Eeee wrote:

Bell wrote:

Also to note, the 640 is for higher res/size monitors, as in 22'' and 1600+ resolutions, if you arent using that, I reccomend the 320, it is actually quicker on the smaller screens.
So will a GTX, be useless with a "17 monitor?
No that's different, GTX has more stram processors and larger interface that makes it run faster, it isnt just a case of clock speeds that split the two.  GTX would be even faster again, but, on 2142 1024x7680 rez (maximum settings), a GTS manages around 80+fps, GTX gets 100+, so there is a gain to be made.

Wouldnt bother with a GTX on a 17'' though, overkill imo, but, buying it means, when you buy a larger screen, you wont suffer as much of a speed decrease

Martyn
r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6921

Bell wrote:

r'Eeee wrote:

Bell wrote:

Also to note, the 640 is for higher res/size monitors, as in 22'' and 1600+ resolutions, if you arent using that, I reccomend the 320, it is actually quicker on the smaller screens.
So will a GTX, be useless with a "17 monitor?
No that's different, GTX has more stram processors and larger interface that makes it run faster, it isnt just a case of clock speeds that split the two.  GTX would be even faster again, but, on 2142 1024x7680 rez (maximum settings), a GTS manages around 80+fps, GTX gets 100+, so there is a gain to be made.

Wouldnt bother with a GTX on a 17'' though, overkill imo, but, buying it means, when you buy a larger screen, you wont suffer as much of a speed decrease

Martyn
Yer exactly, and if I buy a new PC, I doubt that I will get a new monitor, as it is already over my budget, might get one in teh future though. But, thanks for clearing that up  And If, I am getting one of those beasts, not cuz I want to play 2142, but cuz of the future games. My 6800 can handle 2142

Last edited by r'Eeee (2007-07-20 10:17:09)

r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6921

Probably, but they are still expensive, I mean the 320mb GTS costs around £195. The GTX costs around £310, might pay the extra £115

Damn, you deleted your post, nvm xD

Last edited by r'Eeee (2007-07-20 10:20:37)

Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7022|UK

r'Eeee wrote:

Bell wrote:

r'Eeee wrote:

So will a GTX, be useless with a "17 monitor?
No that's different, GTX has more stram processors and larger interface that makes it run faster, it isnt just a case of clock speeds that split the two.  GTX would be even faster again, but, on 2142 1024x7680 rez (maximum settings), a GTS manages around 80+fps, GTX gets 100+, so there is a gain to be made.

Wouldnt bother with a GTX on a 17'' though, overkill imo, but, buying it means, when you buy a larger screen, you wont suffer as much of a speed decrease

Martyn
Yer exactly, and if I buy a new PC, I doubt that I will get a new monitor, as it is already over my budget, might get one in teh future though. But, thanks for clearing that up  And If, I am getting one of those beasts, not cuz I want to play 2142, but cuz of the future games. My 6800 can handle 2142
I would save the cash and get a GTS tbh, I think, some people are putting to much faith in there investment that a GTX/ultra will run all games for years ultra high, with the specs of G92 (nvidia 9000 series) leaking here there and everywhere, the demands of games will increase quicker than ever before, so you will be sittin there with a pretty expensive medicore card this time next year. Just what I think anyway, good luck

N yea sorry lol u beat me to it

Who is selling it for £310 :S?

Martyn

Last edited by Bell (2007-07-20 10:25:39)

JaMrulezass
Member
+47|6937|Hong Kong

Smithereener wrote:

Curtor wrote:

JaMrulezass wrote:

Save the 680i and go with the P35 :p much better in terms of support, faster and penryn support!! And you probably will never go SLI.
This one?
I think a lot of people will tell you to steer clear of Intel mobos. But eh, what do I know. And about the Maxtor Drives. I've seen countless negative reviews about their drives, try Seagate, I think they're one of the most reliable.
Nahh...of coz not original Intel boards, I'm talking about the Asus P5K-Deluxe and the Gigabyte P35-DQ6.

Wait for the Asus Blitz Extreme, Formula Special Edition and Formula. Its the only thing I'm waiting till my new build....
r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6921

Bell wrote:

r'Eeee wrote:

Bell wrote:


No that's different, GTX has more stram processors and larger interface that makes it run faster, it isnt just a case of clock speeds that split the two.  GTX would be even faster again, but, on 2142 1024x7680 rez (maximum settings), a GTS manages around 80+fps, GTX gets 100+, so there is a gain to be made.

Wouldnt bother with a GTX on a 17'' though, overkill imo, but, buying it means, when you buy a larger screen, you wont suffer as much of a speed decrease

Martyn
Yer exactly, and if I buy a new PC, I doubt that I will get a new monitor, as it is already over my budget, might get one in teh future though. But, thanks for clearing that up  And If, I am getting one of those beasts, not cuz I want to play 2142, but cuz of the future games. My 6800 can handle 2142
I would save the cash and get a GTS tbh, I think, some people are putting to much faith in there investment that a GTX/ultra will run all games for years ultra high, with the specs of G92 (nvidia 9000 series) leaking here there and everywhere, the demands of games will increase quicker than ever before, so you will be sittin there with a pretty expensive medicore card this time next year. Just what I think anyway, good luck

N yea sorry lol u beat me to it

Who is selling it for £310 :S?

Martyn
£318 rather Clicky . And yea I agree about spending this amount of money on these cards, that will get outdated in a year or so. Might go with the PS3 to play games. Will see how it goes

Cheers
Curtor
Member
+6|6622|Canada
Thanks for all the comments guys!

OK, so with that input, i think I am going to go
CPU = E6850
Motherboard =    
Intel DP35DPM Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

And will back up anything on my hard drives I plan on keeping when they suddenly die and I have to get new ones
As for the Intel board, let me know if this is going to bottleneck me, but otherwise I think it is actually a good deal from what I can see, if it doesn't slow me down at all.  I know some of you guys say to stay away from the Intel boards, but it has a 3 year warrenty, so I should be alright.
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6915|Stealth City, UK

Curtor wrote:

Thanks for all the comments guys!

OK, so with that input, i think I am going to go
CPU = E6850
Motherboard =    
Intel DP35DPM Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

And will back up anything on my hard drives I plan on keeping when they suddenly die and I have to get new ones
As for the Intel board, let me know if this is going to bottleneck me, but otherwise I think it is actually a good deal from what I can see, if it doesn't slow me down at all.  I know some of you guys say to stay away from the Intel boards, but it has a 3 year warrenty, so I should be alright.
No, everyone has already said no to that crappy Intel mobo.

This is what I hate about these threads because in the end you just do whatver you want and not what we reccommend!

If you're on a budget get the Gigabyte P35 DS4  or DS3.
Curtor
Member
+6|6622|Canada
Hmm ... true enough...
In that case, I will just go with the board I mentioned in the beginning.  The DS3 is slightly cheaper, but does not have the same FBS. Seeing if I ever do change my mind on OC, it option will still be there as well.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7022|UK

Curtor wrote:

Hmm ... true enough...
In that case, I will just go with the board I mentioned in the beginning.  The DS3 is slightly cheaper, but does not have the same FBS. Seeing if I ever do change my mind on OC, it option will still be there as well.
If you go P35, remember you cant SLI, only crossfire (ATI cards), just a heads up, I didnt know that untill pretty recently (the hardway too!), I thought two GPU slots meant, any two cards, but it's not, you can still run one nvidia card in those motherboards tho .

Remember also, there are two, DS3, the P and R.

The P, has 2x PCI-e 16 slots for two cards in crossfire and a firewire port.

The R, has 1x PCI-e 16 slot for one graphics card (nvidia OR ATI card, doesnt matter), and support for DDR3 RAM, no firewire.

Toss up between the two, you gain with one and loose no matter which DS3 you choose.  I'd say if you are stayin with your current graphics card choice the R makes more sense.

Martyn

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