Harmor
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+605|6990|San Diego, CA, USA
Of the $122.8 billion of foreign aid provided by Americans in 2005 (the most current data available), $95.5 billion, or 79 percent, came from private foundations, corporations, voluntary organizations, universities, religious organizations and individuals, says the annual Index of Global Philanthropy.
So only $27.3 billion is government foreign Aid.  What would happen if the United States foreign aid?


Source: United States Is Largest Donor of Foreign Aid, Report Says
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7210
Their influence over many countries would wain?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7204

BN wrote:

Their influence over many countries would wain?
Figured that was your first thought.  God knows having Botswana for its oil and help in the fight against terrorism would be a huge loss.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7093|USA

Harmor wrote:

Of the $122.8 billion of foreign aid provided by Americans in 2005 (the most current data available), $95.5 billion, or 79 percent, came from private foundations, corporations, voluntary organizations, universities, religious organizations and individuals, says the annual Index of Global Philanthropy.
So only $27.3 billion is government foreign Aid.  What would happen if the United States foreign aid?


Source: United States Is Largest Donor of Foreign Aid, Report Says
I dunno, lets find out!!
nlsme
Member
+48|6857|new york
This is to be bumped tomorrow for sure.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6905|meh-land
the rest of the world falls apart and learns to appreciate having us on their side?
agent146
Member
+127|6829|Jesus Land aka Canada

BN wrote:

Their influence over many countries would wain?
ya probably; china would laugh and try to expand and become the new superpower that would demise US influence in world affairs ? LOL
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7003
In terms of raw amount, yes.  In terms of percentage, is right down near the bottom.

If you stopped it what international support you do have would probably dissappear.
BVC
Member
+325|7137
I dunno about the rest of the world, but we'd end up spending more aid$ in the pacific, probably to stave off China's influence.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7070|IRELAND

A third of the aid goes to Israel, so they might have to stand more on their own feet.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6997
The world would learn to pull itself up by its own bootstraps and the governments of aid-receiving nations would no longer be held hostage by the US. I think it would be a good thing.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6940|Texas
Foreign aid pisses me off. I'm so fucking sick of getting taxed every time I wake up, go to sleep, earn money, don't earn money, or shit. I own a small business and you would not believe the taxes I pay. It's sickening.

And what do they do with my hard earned money? They give it away to some asshole country that is (1) a complete waste of time and money because the people are shithead morons who will never accomplish anything, (2) run by some two-bit dictator sack of shit who is the only person in the country with any sense but who uses his modicum of intelligence to steal from his own people, and (3) full of people who would just as soon blow up the United States as say thank you.

Fuck it. We give and give and give and every time we turn around we're hounded in the UN, verbally abused, backed out on, berated, and left holding the bag.

The best answer is to quit sending money to anyone who votes against us in the UN. It's certainly Mexico's right to tell us to piss up a rope on the Iraq war. It's certainly Botswana's right to tell us "no thanks" when we want to bomb someone. If that's their stance fine. Just don't come to us with your hand out later asking for money. If you're man enough to tell us to fuck off, you're man enough to pay your own fucking bills.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7003

Dersmikner wrote:

(1) a complete waste of time and money because the people are shithead morons who will never accomplish anything
Since when has the US recieved foreign aid?
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|7028|Sweden

Dersmikner wrote:

Foreign aid pisses me off. I'm so fucking sick of getting taxed every time I wake up, go to sleep, earn money, don't earn money, or shit. I own a small business and you would not believe the taxes I pay. It's sickening.

And what do they do with my hard earned money? They give it away to some asshole country that is (1) a complete waste of time and money because the people are shithead morons who will never accomplish anything, (2) run by some two-bit dictator sack of shit who is the only person in the country with any sense but who uses his modicum of intelligence to steal from his own people, and (3) full of people who would just as soon blow up the United States as say thank you.

Fuck it. We give and give and give and every time we turn around we're hounded in the UN, verbally abused, backed out on, berated, and left holding the bag.

The best answer is to quit sending money to anyone who votes against us in the UN. It's certainly Mexico's right to tell us to piss up a rope on the Iraq war. It's certainly Botswana's right to tell us "no thanks" when we want to bomb someone. If that's their stance fine. Just don't come to us with your hand out later asking for money. If you're man enough to tell us to fuck off, you're man enough to pay your own fucking bills.
Ever tried not paying taxes? I might make you feel less angry....
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7023|SE London

Most US foreign aid is used to buy countries allegiance and cooperation. Pakistan are a major recipient of US aid and that is a very important part of the war on terror.

Of course most of the aid goes to Israel anyway and they really don't need any aid. They are perfectly capable of sustaining themselves. The $85 trillion the US has wasted on Israel over the years was a very bad idea.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6997

Bertster7 wrote:

Most US foreign aid is used to buy countries allegiance and cooperation. Pakistan are a major recipient of US aid and that is a very important part of the war on terror.

Of course most of the aid goes to Israel anyway and they really don't need any aid. They are perfectly capable of sustaining themselves. The $85 trillion the US has wasted on Israel over the years was a very bad idea.
$85 trillion spent on making sure the middle east keeps hating them....
Kaosdad
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
+201|7121|Broadlands, VA

Dersmikner wrote:

Foreign aid pisses me off. I'm so fucking sick of getting taxed every time I wake up, go to sleep, earn money, don't earn money, or shit. I own a small business and you would not believe the taxes I pay. It's sickening.

And what do they do with my hard earned money? They give it away to some asshole country that is (1) a complete waste of time and money because the people are shithead morons who will never accomplish anything, (2) run by some two-bit dictator sack of shit who is the only person in the country with any sense but who uses his modicum of intelligence to steal from his own people, and (3) full of people who would just as soon blow up the United States as say thank you.

Fuck it. We give and give and give and every time we turn around we're hounded in the UN, verbally abused, backed out on, berated, and left holding the bag.

The best answer is to quit sending money to anyone who votes against us in the UN. It's certainly Mexico's right to tell us to piss up a rope on the Iraq war. It's certainly Botswana's right to tell us "no thanks" when we want to bomb someone. If that's their stance fine. Just don't come to us with your hand out later asking for money. If you're man enough to tell us to fuck off, you're man enough to pay your own fucking bills.

CameronPoe wrote:

The world would learn to pull itself up by its own bootstraps
QFE
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7023|SE London

CameronPoe wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Most US foreign aid is used to buy countries allegiance and cooperation. Pakistan are a major recipient of US aid and that is a very important part of the war on terror.

Of course most of the aid goes to Israel anyway and they really don't need any aid. They are perfectly capable of sustaining themselves. The $85 trillion the US has wasted on Israel over the years was a very bad idea.
$85 trillion spent on making sure the middle east keeps hating them....
That's 10x US national debt.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7199|Argentina
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_e … or-per-gdp

Economic Aid Donor per GDP:
#1   Denmark: $8.76 per $1,000 of GDP   
#2   Luxembourg: $7.57 per $1,000 of GDP   
#3   Netherlands: $6.93 per $1,000 of GDP   
#4   Norway: $5.60 per $1,000 of GDP   
#5   France: $5.04 per $1,000 of GDP   
#6   United Kingdom: $5.00 per $1,000 of GDP   
#7   Sweden: $4.91 per $1,000 of GDP   
#8   Finland: $4.56 per $1,000 of GDP   
#9   Ireland: $3.31 per $1,000 of GDP   
#10   Belgium: $3.06 per $1,000 of GDP   
#11   Switzerland: $3.06 per $1,000 of GDP   
#12   Canada: $2.65 per $1,000 of GDP   
#13   Austria: $2.35 per $1,000 of GDP   
#14   Germany: $2.06 per $1,000 of GDP   
#15   Japan: $1.93 per $1,000 of GDP   
#16   Portugal: $1.61 per $1,000 of GDP   
#17   Australia: $1.42 per $1,000 of GDP   
#18   Spain: $1.34 per $1,000 of GDP   
#19   Korea, South: $1.10 per $1,000 of GDP   
#20   Italy: $0.60 per $1,000 of GDP   
#21   United States: $0.59 per $1,000 of GDP   
#22   Iceland: $0.54 per $1,000 of GDP   
Weighted average: $3.36 per $1,000 of GDP

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-07-24 07:02:01)

Fredrik
i hate you all
+201|7091|Norway
How much of this aid goes to Israel?
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7095|pimelteror.de
what would happen?

you would have more money to spend on weapons and ammo...
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7199|Argentina
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate … Militarism

GlobalIssues wrote:

recent US aid has taken on militaristic angles as well, following similar patterns to aid during the cold war. The war on terrorism is also having an effect as to what aid goes where and how much is spent.

For example:

“Credits for foreign militaries to buy US weapons and equipment would increase by some 700 million dollars to nearly five billion dollars, the highest total in well over a decade.” (This is also an example of aid benefiting the donor!)
“The total foreign aid proposal … amounts to a mere five percent of what Bush is requesting for the Pentagon next year.”
“Bush’s foreign-aid plan [for 2005] actually marks an increase over 2004 levels, although much of the additional money is explained by greater spending on security for US embassies and personnel overseas.”
“As in previous years, Israel and Egypt are the biggest bilateral recipients under the request, accounting for nearly five billion dollars in aid between them. Of the nearly three billion dollars earmarked for Israel, most is for military credits.”
This militaristic aid will come “largely at the expense of humanitarian and development assistance.”

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-07-24 07:08:01)

nlsme
Member
+48|6857|new york

Bubbalo wrote:

In terms of raw amount, yes.  In terms of percentage, is right down near the bottom.

If you stopped it what international support you do have would probably dissappear.
No, please read the article. Americans as individuals give more per citizen. We just chose to do it in a more private manner, and not let the state handle it all.
nlsme
Member
+48|6857|new york

CameronPoe wrote:

The world would learn to pull itself up by its own bootstraps and the governments of aid-receiving nations would no longer be held hostage by the US. I think it would be a good thing.
The countries can't even "pull themselves up" with our money. You think he could do it w/o any money? Doubt it would be a GOOD thing, but seeings you "CRITICIZE the U.S. over EVERYTHING, that view surprises me none.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7023|SE London

nlsme wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

In terms of raw amount, yes.  In terms of percentage, is right down near the bottom.

If you stopped it what international support you do have would probably dissappear.
No, please read the article. Americans as individuals give more per citizen. We just chose to do it in a more private manner, and not let the state handle it all.
That's not what he's saying. He's pointing out that despite the fact there is a lot of US aid, it is a low percentage in terms of GDP. Other countries that have less money give a larger proportion of their wealth.

Other countries give a lot of private aid too. But that is more difficult to compare. Especially with the amount Buffet and Gates donate - which makes US private contributions a bit deceptive.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-24 08:43:40)

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