I know you dont do that, but before you went no one hadnt exploding bombs n crowd. these terrorist groups cant fight against you, so they kill innocent. thats very harsh. because of that I say everything is fucked up.usmarine2005 wrote:
Don't you have anything different to say?Ottomania wrote:
dont you have different things to say? or exploding bombs in crowds are the first steps of liberation?usmarine2005 wrote:
idiot.
Last time I checked, the US was not blowing up car bombs in crowded markets, that would be terrorists from other countries. But I guess it is not their fault they blow up themselves in order to take out a bus, it is our fault. My bad. What was I thinking? Blame the people trying to slow the progress.
Not really. Two issues: local cock-measuring contest between Israel and Iran on the one hand, internationally endorsed steam-rolling of the Palestinians by Israel on the other.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Iran-Israel - none of our business: local issue for people in the middle east.Seems to me like you are contradicting yourself here. i do NOT see this as international vs domestic thing. of course more people will see it my way once Iran has the bomb and hits one of Israel's cities, but i'm sure a few people will say Israel had it coming. that's ok. a padded white van with two guys and butterfly nets are on the way to those people.CameronPoe wrote:
We in the west, through the UN, are partly responsible for imposing Israel on that region of the world and overlooking their crimes since 1967. It is in our best interests that justice be served in order to clear our conscience and mend fences with those in the middle east we have treated unfairly, such as Iran.
i tell you though, doesn't it piss you off that people in the world have to live like this? why should women be treated like walking vaginas in saudi arabia or pakistan? why should people get stoned (with rocks) when they make a mistake and screw around with the neighbor's wife? why is it a death penalty to say something bad about mohammad or allah?Ottomania wrote:
atg, so you are supporting to nuke Iran? then I was wondering why you have such an odd face.
let them do everything they want, unless they damage a person that is not from IRan. you entered IRaq to liberate, but you fucked up everything.
dont make such a mistake again, it will cost much more.
this 5th century way of life will not progress humanity - it REPRESSES it! i say it's time for action and to eliminate this crap or at least help those that want to join the 21st century.
You do understand that going in was eventually going to happen right? Either the UN or the US would have eventually gone in to enforce rules set by the UN. Although since the UN was making money hand over fist off the oil for food program, it would have been the US eventually I imagine.Ottomania wrote:
I know you dont do that, but before you went no one hadnt exploding bombs n crowd. these terrorist groups cant fight against you, so they kill innocent. thats very harsh. because of that I say everything is fucked up.usmarine2005 wrote:
Don't you have anything different to say?Ottomania wrote:
dont you have different things to say? or exploding bombs in crowds are the first steps of liberation?
Last time I checked, the US was not blowing up car bombs in crowded markets, that would be terrorists from other countries. But I guess it is not their fault they blow up themselves in order to take out a bus, it is our fault. My bad. What was I thinking? Blame the people trying to slow the progress.
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You compare them to Nazi's? From what I know they were good to their own people. Dont compare them to radical muslums.. jesus, I dont care what you think of the Nazis, some people have family members who served.ATG wrote:
I refer to the amazing numbers of Iranian people executed for so called " morality crimes ".
http://i12.tinypic.com/537oewz.jpg
Iranian female police officer enforcing morality and dress codesIt was weird to watch these modern day Nazis at work.A girl in a short white manto whose long hair was tumbling out the front of her headscarf is taken by the police to one of the minibuses on Vanak Square in central Tehran -- an unexpected and unhappy end to her shopping trip.
Another arrested woman is already inside the bus. She begins to cry. "I promise, I promise!"
And the minibus doors slam shut.
Here is a video, the girl screaming at the end really gave me the creeps.
" The Iranian government confirmed Tuesday that a man was executed by stoning last week for committing adultery, and said that 20 more men would be executed in the coming days on morality violations ."
Did you also happen to know thatIran Leads the World in Executing Children?
They seem to be directly provoking the United States in a number of ways inside Iraq, and there are Americans being detained in Iran.
Liveleak has posted in the Iran section a public hanging of two men and a woman that was posted July 15th. Really awful.
How I wish the people of Iran would rise up and cast away the monsters in their government. It is clear that strict adaption of Islamic law is not compatible with freedom, or our culture. They have stated thier intentions to wipe Israel off the map and they believe in a doomsday end of the world scenario. They are saying they are enriching nuclear weapons grade uranium.
There need be no propaganda about weapons in Iraq and WMDs up and coming from Iran; I have to support the concept of Iran being a threat to world peace and security simply by observing what they do. I feel for the young people in Muslim countries. Think about it for a minute; you are told what you can wear or not wear. You can be executed for having unlawful sex.
Imagine Islamic radicals hellbent on exporting and establishing Sharia Law armed with nuclear weapons.
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Are you defending Nazis? Go away.Deutschland wrote:
You compare them to Nazi's? From what I know they were good to their own people. Dont compare them to radical muslums.. jesus, I dont care what you think of the Nazis, some people have family members who served.
Wow, nice to see ignorance, You dont know each individual there, so stfu. Its ironic to see people preach "peace peace no hate" then see you hate on others, great.sergeriver wrote:
Are you defending Nazis? Go away.Deutschland wrote:
You compare them to Nazi's? From what I know they were good to their own people. Dont compare them to radical muslums.. jesus, I dont care what you think of the Nazis, some people have family members who served.
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Would you care to explain pls?Deutschland wrote:
Wow, nice to see ignorance, You dont know each individual there, so stfu.sergeriver wrote:
Are you defending Nazis? Go away.Deutschland wrote:
You compare them to Nazi's? From what I know they were good to their own people. Dont compare them to radical muslums.. jesus, I dont care what you think of the Nazis, some people have family members who served.
Would you care to explain how every single one of them is guilty? Thats like saying every american is a murderer, rapist and thief, for Dresden and Berlin.sergeriver wrote:
Would you care to explain pls?Deutschland wrote:
Wow, nice to see ignorance, You dont know each individual there, so stfu.sergeriver wrote:
Are you defending Nazis? Go away.
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A nazi is a nazi, if someone served but was against Nazism, that guy is not a nazi. But you can't come here, insult two members and then justify Nazis.Deutschland wrote:
Would you care to explain how every single one of them is guilty?sergeriver wrote:
Would you care to explain pls?Deutschland wrote:
Wow, nice to see ignorance, You dont know each individual there, so stfu.
Yes, you do bear the blame, partly. As an occupying power, you have a duty to protect the locals. By failing to protect them from militia groups, you fail that duty.usmarine2005 wrote:
Last time I checked, the US was not blowing up car bombs in crowded markets, that would be terrorists from other countries. But I guess it is not their fault they blow up themselves in order to take out a bus, it is our fault. My bad. What was I thinking? Blame the people trying to slow the progress.
I insulted 2 members? No, not really. I justify them because they didnt do anything wrong and he is comparing them to a barbaric culture. Interesting how nobody compares them to... lets say... Stalin? and his liquidation of 65,000,000 non-jews from 1919-1939, cute really.sergeriver wrote:
A nazi is a nazi, if someone served but was against Nazism, that guy is not a nazi. But you can't come here, insult two members and then justify Nazis.Deutschland wrote:
Would you care to explain how every single one of them is guilty?sergeriver wrote:
Would you care to explain pls?
Does it feel nice to know you're not the only one?usmarine2005 wrote:
idiot.Ottomania wrote:
you entered IRaq to liberate, but you fucked up everything.
They're welcome to migrate. It has been proven many times before that you cannot force cultural change, especially from the outside. Further, for those of us that don't support the death penalty at all the argument that using it for some crimes is good whilst using it for other is horrific and unthinkable seems a little.............odd.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i tell you though, doesn't it piss you off that people in the world have to live like this? why should women be treated like walking vaginas in saudi arabia or pakistan? why should people get stoned (with rocks) when they make a mistake and screw around with the neighbor's wife? why is it a death penalty to say something bad about mohammad or allah?
this 5th century way of life will not progress humanity - it REPRESSES it! i say it's time for action and to eliminate this crap or at least help those that want to join the 21st century.
Are you saying that nazis didn't killed 6 million Jews? How come they didn't do anything FFS. Who defended Stalin anyway? Both Hitler and Stalin were assholes. And how can you call a culture thousands of years old, barbaric?Deutschland wrote:
I insulted 2 members? No, not really. I justify them because they didnt do anything wrong and he is comparing them to a barbaric culture. Interesting how nobody compares them to... lets say... Stalin? and his liquidation of 65,000,000 non-jews from 1919-1939, cute really.sergeriver wrote:
A nazi is a nazi, if someone served but was against Nazism, that guy is not a nazi. But you can't come here, insult two members and then justify Nazis.Deutschland wrote:
Would you care to explain how every single one of them is guilty?
So does that justify the jews killing millions of non jews in russia? The point is comparing them to the nazi's, a society that was very intelligent and productive, instead of a communist regime that murdered hundreds of millions more.sergeriver wrote:
Are you saying that nazis didn't killed 6 million Jews? How come they didn't do anything FFS. Who defended Stalin anyway? Both Hitler and Stalin were assholes. And how can you call a culture thousands of years old, barbaric?Deutschland wrote:
I insulted 2 members? No, not really. I justify them because they didnt do anything wrong and he is comparing them to a barbaric culture. Interesting how nobody compares them to... lets say... Stalin? and his liquidation of 65,000,000 non-jews from 1919-1939, cute really.sergeriver wrote:
A nazi is a nazi, if someone served but was against Nazism, that guy is not a nazi. But you can't come here, insult two members and then justify Nazis.
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Yes, the Communist regime had no intelligence behind it at all........................other than being pushed by the Russian intelligentsia and support by intellectuals worldwide.............meh, minor details................
More importantly, when were the Jews in power in Russia?
More importantly, when were the Jews in power in Russia?
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Yeah, it's a good thing that Israel is the only country being supported. Who knows what would happen if Iran or Syria supported the Palestinians, or what would happen if US gave aid to Palestinians as well...somewhere...somehow.CameronPoe wrote:
Not really. Two issues: local cock-measuring contest between Israel and Iran on the one hand, internationally endorsed steam-rolling of the Palestinians by Israel on the other.
How big is the Palestinian nuclear stockpile? How big is their airforce? How many armor divisions do they have?
Exactly.
Exactly.
They owned the soviet union, im sure if you can get a list of their government. I just think its rediculous how the media and people constantly bash the Nazis, and it seems like Stalin and his murderous communist regime is left untouched, like they never did anything wrong. Even if infact they were much worse.Bubbalo wrote:
Yes, the Communist regime had no intelligence behind it at all........................other than being pushed by the Russian intelligentsia and support by intellectuals worldwide.............meh, minor details................
More importantly, when were the Jews in power in Russia?
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First off, nobody compared nazis to Stalin's regime. They both sucked big time anyway. And where the fuck did you get that Jews killed millions in Russia? And how can you call a very intelligent and productive society to a genocide regime? I don't get you.Deutschland wrote:
So does that justify the jews killing millions of non jews in russia? The point is comparing them to the nazi's, a society that was very intelligent and productive, instead of a communist regime that murdered hundreds of millions more.sergeriver wrote:
Are you saying that nazis didn't killed 6 million Jews? How come they didn't do anything FFS. Who defended Stalin anyway? Both Hitler and Stalin were assholes. And how can you call a culture thousands of years old, barbaric?Deutschland wrote:
I insulted 2 members? No, not really. I justify them because they didnt do anything wrong and he is comparing them to a barbaric culture. Interesting how nobody compares them to... lets say... Stalin? and his liquidation of 65,000,000 non-jews from 1919-1939, cute really.
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uhm... ? They were very productive, wealthy, intelligent, built many new machines and inventions which led to the developement of other items which other countries use.sergeriver wrote:
First off, nobody compared nazis to Stalin's regime. They both sucked big time anyway. And where the fuck did you get that Jews kiled millions in Russia? And how can you call a very intelligent and productive society to a genocide regime? I don't get you.Deutschland wrote:
So does that justify the jews killing millions of non jews in russia? The point is comparing them to the nazi's, a society that was very intelligent and productive, instead of a communist regime that murdered hundreds of millions more.sergeriver wrote:
Are you saying that nazis didn't killed 6 million Jews? How come they didn't do anything FFS. Who defended Stalin anyway? Both Hitler and Stalin were assholes. And how can you call a culture thousands of years old, barbaric?
But they killed 6 million Jews. Do you acknowledge that Hitler and the Nazi regime killed a lot of people without any justification? Answer this and we'll talk.Deutschland wrote:
uhm... ? They were very productive, wealthy, intelligent, built many new machines and inventions which led to the developement of other items which other countries use.sergeriver wrote:
First off, nobody compared nazis to Stalin's regime. They both sucked big time anyway. And where the fuck did you get that Jews kiled millions in Russia? And how can you call a very intelligent and productive society to a genocide regime? I don't get you.Deutschland wrote:
So does that justify the jews killing millions of non jews in russia? The point is comparing them to the nazi's, a society that was very intelligent and productive, instead of a communist regime that murdered hundreds of millions more.
You're doing the same thing you did earlier!sergeriver wrote:
First off, nobody compared nazis to Stalin's regime. They both sucked big time anyway. And where the fuck did you get that Jews killed millions in Russia? And how can you call a very intelligent and productive society to a genocide regime? I don't get you.
Just because a regime is brutal and violent doesn't mean it isn't also intelligent and productive. To be honest, that's the worst part about Hitler in my opinion. If it weren't for the fact that he was a nutter who killed millions, he could have done so much for Germany. On the other hand, if he hadn't started WWII Europe and co. might not have been dragged out of the depression...................
Brits? Aussies? Or just us?Bubbalo wrote:
Yes, you do bear the blame, partly. As an occupying power, you have a duty to protect the locals. By failing to protect them from militia groups, you fail that duty.usmarine2005 wrote:
Last time I checked, the US was not blowing up car bombs in crowded markets, that would be terrorists from other countries. But I guess it is not their fault they blow up themselves in order to take out a bus, it is our fault. My bad. What was I thinking? Blame the people trying to slow the progress.