sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina
According to some, I'm a terrorist appeaser.  I have a fear of Islam and all Muslims being stereotyped and discriminated for the actions of a few.  I apparently need your help to understand that I'm wrong.  SO help me.  But wait!!  Why are you going to the Middle East invading countries and labeling innocent people as terrorists just coz the actions of a minority?  Why don't you go to the Muslims and ask THEM what you can do to stop these extremists in order to solve the terrorism problem and Islamophobia as well.  Why are you going to Israel to alleviate their grief?  I am the terrorist appeaser, why are you not asking ME what you can do to change my mind?

Should you not be taking me to a close land to show me how friendly and tolerant non-Muslim people are toward Islam?  Should you not be quoting me the Old Testament verses to show me how loving and tolerant Judaism and Christianism are to all people who do not believe what they believe?  Should you not be comforting me by showing just how Christian priests treat their children, with love and without protection?  I know, maybe a picture of Torquemada to hang on my wall to constantly remind me of the love and peace and tolerance that comes along with being Christian.

Anyway, I am the terrorist appeaser, so continue with the bigotry and discrimination, coz I'm wrong.  You are not the ones with the problem.  I AM!
suomalainen_äijä
Member
+64|6593
appeaser?
David.P
Banned
+649|6702
Serge i never called you that i said that the liberal mindset is towards appeasement.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7090|USA
Serge,

The people saying that voted for the current President. Enough said.
daffytag
cheese-it!
+104|7003
deja vu
Multiple_Orgasm
Member
+2|6748
"I have a fear of Islam and all Muslims being stereotyped and discriminated for the actions of a few. "   
It is really very difficult to separate the "peaceful" Muslims from those who act violently in the name of Islam. Why is that? It is because the "peaceful" Muslims are NOT speaking out and acting against those Muslims who ARE using Islam as the motivation for their cowardly acts of terror. I know there are a few that do, but their numbers are few and they rightly fear for their lives if they do speak out. So lets dispense with this idea that the terror is NOT connected to Islam, because it clearly is. When the sound from the "peaceful" Muslims becomes overwhelming against the din of their Islamic terrorist brothers, then perhaps we may believe that Muslims also deplore and condemn violence against non Muslims. Until then, I am unable to believe that Islam has no role in the spread of terror.

"Should you not be taking me to a close land to show me how friendly and tolerant non-Muslim people are toward Islam?  Should you not be quoting me the Old Testament verses to show me how loving and tolerant Judaism and Christianism are to all people who do not believe what they believe?  Should you not be comforting me by showing just how Christian priests treat their children, with love and without protection?  I know, maybe a picture of Torquemada to hang on my wall to constantly remind me of the love and peace and tolerance that comes along with being Christian."
I'm an atheist. The rantings of another religion have no place in my thinking. I don't care at all about the religious motivations of others, other than when these religious motivations become intrusive in my life. Politics and religion are clearly intermixed regarding terror. The fact is that when Islam renounces as Christianity did the methods of those like Torquemada, it then will have the MORAL authority to be a religion of Peace.........as it is now Islam is another in a long line of religions that are built upon the shed blood of non believers.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6957|Global Command
These tit for tat threads...I swear.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6923
OH GOD PLEASE STOP WITH THE RETALIATION THREADS! I can't even keep track of which threads are responding to which anymore!
AAFCptKabbom
Member
+127|7086|WPB, FL. USA

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Serge,

The people saying that voted for the current President. Enough said.
Pulled that one from way deep up your ignorant liberal ass did ya

People who stereotype are doing so from ignorance - of all races, religions, and politics - making ignorant blanket comments only perpetuates it.

My question to Serge is - why is it that the mass Muslim community, Clerics, and Governments are not condemning acts of terrorism???

You, yourself, didn't help by dragging religion into it - it's not a religious issue - the extremest and/or terrorist are trying make it that... !!!

This whole issue is difficult because the only thing we know is that the terrorist attacks are being carried out by Muslims (radical), there are no uniforms, there's not a "country" openly attacking innocent people around the world, there is not a single point of focus (Iraq to some degree).
Here's where the "ignorance" and the media come in - all everyone sees is the view given to them (Aljazeera and CNN - both very much biased).
All we hear is - it's Muslims, it's radical Clerics, it's being fostered in Mosques, children in the Muslim world (Palestine, etc,) are indoctrinated into a life of hate towards people and believes they will never know anything about, funding to support terrorist acts is coming from everyday Muslims, etc...  So please don't hate anyone or appease anyone from ignorance.  With just the few things I noted above can't you see that it's very difficult for anyone to see who the bad guys are - it would be a hell of lot easier if everyone would stand together so the terrorist would stand out...

You say you are an "appeaser" then you have chosen a side - sry to read that

Me, I take each person for who they are and religion for the good that comes of it - can I tell who's a terrorist or not, NO!  What I do know is that he/she will more than likely be a Muslim - sry - just what we know to be a fact - It's a Muslim issue and they should deal with it.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7049|London, England
zomg

/ban

/guantanamo
G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|7054|Sea to globally-cooled sea
I voted for the current president.

and today, I would still vote for Bush over Kerry.

And by withholding my vote, that would be voting for Kerry.

And I think that many people agree with me.  Kerry is a giant weenie.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6923

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

Pulled that one from way deep up your ignorant liberal ass did ya

People who stereotype are doing so from ignorance - of all races, religions, and politics - making ignorant blanket comments only perpetuates it.
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO APPRECIATES IRONY?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

jonsimon wrote:

AAFCptKabbom wrote:

Pulled that one from way deep up your ignorant liberal ass did ya

People who stereotype are doing so from ignorance - of all races, religions, and politics - making ignorant blanket comments only perpetuates it.
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO APPRECIATES IRONY?
Apparently you are.
J][gga
Member
+8|7081
damn south americans....
Jepeto87
Member
+38|7113|Dublin
Id agree with Sergeriver! You cant just go round labeling people on such a large scale, just look at the Americans are dumb threads its practically the same thing!

Last edited by Jepeto87 (2007-08-05 10:40:50)

Raphi
Banned
+354|6687|Basel, Switzerland
I was waiting for this thread
iamangry
Member
+59|7073|The United States of America

sergeriver wrote:

Why don't you go to the Muslims and ask THEM what you can do to stop these extremists in order to solve the terrorism problem and Islamophobia as well.
I don't want to be a muslim, and I like scantily clothed women.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7190

Idiot
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7144
What the hell is with you people and retaliation threads...
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7190

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

What the hell is with you people and retaliation threads...
That it what we call a debate.  You kind of have to since people have short attention spans.
jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.
I'm a terrorist appeaser,

Sweatin' like a beaver.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

Idiot
Yeah, I'm the idiot and you are a genius.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

What the hell is with you people and retaliation threads...
That it what we call a debate.  You kind of have to since people have short attention spans.
Ok, then I'll talk to you let's say in half an hour, when you are able to focus again.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

What the hell is with you people and retaliation threads...
It's not retaliation, it's just a game between Lowing and me.  I don't agree with him but I respect him and I have great appreciation for him even when he's the most conservative person on Earth.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7009|the dank(super) side of Oregon
come on serge, lowing's piece of shit "I'm white trash" thread wasn't even worth a response.

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