Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7213

https://images.apple.com/imac/images/gallery/imackeyboard_4_20070807.jpg

Lol pwnt!
r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6924

At least you pay half the price, for double the performance.

Lol PWND!
Aapje
Internet Superhero
+221|6873
Which one's better?   Those apple things seems strange. Kind of alien. Where did it come from? Where's the case? And what's up with the mouse
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6673|Winland

I doubt that many Dell users have three meters long cables to every pheripheral...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6837|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
how does having less cables make the mac better than the xps?  seriously, please tell me, i want to know
J][gga
Member
+8|7129
Apples are cheap...  they have them in the fruit section for couple dollars a pound....
Protecus
Prophet of Certain Certainties
+28|6998
Seriously, there are more cables than actual ports in that picture

Rediculous

And good luck upgrading

Last edited by Protecus (2007-08-07 12:11:16)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6969|N. Ireland
I don't think you are understanding the picture.. it isn't showing that PCs have so many wires (well.. mine does) - it is showing that a Mac only has a few cables.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7100|Birmingham, UK
It's all very nice lookin' an' all, Berny yet...
I have fears for the keyboard (and mouse - as ever).
It's a desktop... with a laptop keyboard (so lightweight and with such sunken-flat keys - there's not even a bloody number pad [on the Bluetooth version])!
And there's no Apple logo on the command key!
Still... it is sexilicious - but my wrists begin to hurt upon glimpsing that keyboard.

~

Also note:

    *  $1,199
    * 20-inch, 1680 x 1050 LCD
    * 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 250GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT


    * $1,499
    * 20-inch, 1680 x 1050 LCD
    * 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 320GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro


    * $1,799
    * 24-inch, 1900 x 1200 LCD
    * 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 320GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro

Now, I don't know what you think, but 1GB of RAM in the top-end model just doesn't cut it. It should be 2Gb to run at optimum (and for that price, it seems like it should be a given) - hell, give me a smaller hard-drive for the greater RAM, if you must. Just give me the goddamn RAM!

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2007-08-07 12:30:32)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7096|Mhz

I cant see why cables would be a selling point for any piece of respectable technology, a cable tie fixes a multitude of sins. It's making Macs out to be for the retard generation again, which to be fair they aren't but, Apple seem intent on plugging the Mac on how simple it is, how easy everything can be, how nothing will ever be a challenge again, not, how well it performs, how good value it is or how it's going to stand up in the future. They don't ever mention technical details of what you're paying a hell of a lot of money for, they basically give a 1 to 1 comparison (usually biased to the point of ridicule, this is a nice example) of something that really shouldn't even matter when buying a piece of high end computer equipment and expect that to sell you a 2-4k piece of hardware, it's getting sad.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6999|...

i guess if you live in tiny apts those things become important.
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7223|The United Center
None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6999|...

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
I would think that such a feature does not appeal to too many people here. Just having seating for 6 would not appeal to a sports car enthusiast.
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6837|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
isnt that the same with PC's?  you plug in the power, keyboard, mouse and monitor and youre ready to go?
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7096|Mhz

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
Erm buy a Dell, put it on the desk plug in the power keyboard mouse and monitor, turn it on, bam done, I should know we have 15 at work

It's a terrible ad campaign.
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6827
Okay, so they have funky mouses, big deal. Macs are for those who are really into photoshop and movie editing etc... PC's are for those who are geared more towards gaming.

That cute Mac shit doesn't do any good without performance IMO.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7208|St. Andrews / Oslo

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
Erm buy a Dell, put it on the desk plug in the power keyboard mouse and monitor, turn it on, bam done, I should know we have 15 at work

It's a terrible ad campaign.
Is Windows XP already installed?
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7106|Washington, DC

Macs are too expensive for me
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7213

The new Mac is an orgasm in an aluminium casing. There is no computer that can beat it by style.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7208|St. Andrews / Oslo

Bernadictus wrote:

The new Mac is an orgasm in an aluminium casing. There is no computer that can beat it by style.
QFT


Apple > All when it comes to design.

They are absolutely brilliant.
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7096|Mhz

Jenspm wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
Erm buy a Dell, put it on the desk plug in the power keyboard mouse and monitor, turn it on, bam done, I should know we have 15 at work

It's a terrible ad campaign.
Is Windows XP already installed?
Of course it is, or Vista if you ask for it.

Actually it's Vista unless you ask for XP these days, which I do as we reallllly don't need Vista where I work.

Bernadictus wrote:

The new Mac is an orgasm in an aluminium casing. There is no computer that can beat it by style.
Who buys a computer for style? And even so, at the end of the day it's specs (if those up posted up there are true) are genuinly quite poor, it'd need replacing within the year or two for any serious use, which again forces it on low end - mid range users.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2007-08-07 12:49:35)

notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7223|The United Center

jsnipy wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

None of you guys are understanding this.

Like leetkyle said, it's not trying to show how many cables a PC has, but how few an Apple has.  One of Apple's biggest marketing points was that their computers are ready to go pretty much straight out of the box.  Take it out, plug in the power cord, keyboard, and mouse...and you're good to go.
I would think that such a feature does not appeal to too many people here. Just having seating for 6 would not appeal to a sports car enthusiast.
So on this website it may not be as effective as it would be outside of this website, true.  But just from looking at this advertisement, I can tell you that if someone doesn't know much about computers, it makes the Apple look better.  It's cleaner, sleeker, and looks far simpler than the PC.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7213

TheDarkRaven wrote:

It's all very nice lookin' an' all, Berny yet...
I have fears for the keyboard (and mouse - as ever).
It's a desktop... with a laptop keyboard (so lightweight and with such sunken-flat keys - there's not even a bloody number pad [on the Bluetooth version])!
And there's no Apple logo on the command key!
Still... it is sexilicious - but my wrists begin to hurt upon glimpsing that keyboard.

~

Also note:

    *  $1,199
    * 20-inch, 1680 x 1050 LCD
    * 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 250GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT


    * $1,499
    * 20-inch, 1680 x 1050 LCD
    * 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 320GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro


    * $1,799
    * 24-inch, 1900 x 1200 LCD
    * 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    * 1GB RAM
    * 320GB SATA
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro

Now, I don't know what you think, but 1GB of RAM in the top-end model just doesn't cut it. It should be 2Gb to run at optimum (and for that price, it seems like it should be a given) - hell, give me a smaller hard-drive for the greater RAM, if you must. Just give me the goddamn RAM!
No, this is the top end model:

    * 2,8-GHz Intel
      Core 2 Extreme
    * 2 GB geheugen
    * 500-GB HD
    * 8x SuperDrive
    * ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO met 256 MB

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Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7106|Washington, DC

Bernadictus wrote:

The new Mac is an orgasm in an aluminium casing. There is no computer that can beat it by style.
I won't argue on this one, I've always thought Macs look absolutely slick. While you can mod a PC case to look cool, that's too much effort.

And the new Apple Keyboard is just beautiful, although I'd prefer an ergonomic version

http://www.apple.com/keyboard/

And Apple actually understands what wireless means! If you order a Mac with bluetooth in it, there are literally no wires when it comes to the wireless Mac keyboard.
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6837|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
holy shit, 2500 bucks for a computer i could make for 1500

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