The great thing about topics like these is that you get to see the ill-conceived beliefs people have manifest themselves as if it is a thought perfectly acceptable in modern enlightened civilization. But no The_Mac, the Muslims are the ones with antiquated thought, right?
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Incident: Man kicks dog because it bit him.
News Story: Radical fundamentalist muslim rapes dog before skinning it alive and kicking it down the street because it woofed something that sounded like Muhammed.
People like The_Mac are what is wrong with the western world. He's quite content not to pay a blind bit of attention to the background of the story he's reading about, all he needs to do is hear the word 'muslim' and that's enough for him. Modern day Nazis. When's kristallnacht? Or was that Iraq?
News Story: Radical fundamentalist muslim rapes dog before skinning it alive and kicking it down the street because it woofed something that sounded like Muhammed.
People like The_Mac are what is wrong with the western world. He's quite content not to pay a blind bit of attention to the background of the story he's reading about, all he needs to do is hear the word 'muslim' and that's enough for him. Modern day Nazis. When's kristallnacht? Or was that Iraq?
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-03 03:04:42)
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Malloy must go
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.deeznutz1245 wrote:
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It's like opening a thread "Los Angeles is feeling the backlash of the Africans", with the African reference obscuring the fact that a particular bunch of people had a particular grievance and lumped every black man from street cleaner up to barrister in the same bracket (as if it was a cultural thing which it quite plainly wasn't).
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-03 03:34:26)
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.deeznutz1245 wrote:
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What did you just say? "He's quite content not to pay a blind bit of attention to the background of the story he's reading about" Funny are'nt you the same when the subject is a christian? I'm not trying to start shit just even it out.CameronPoe wrote:
The_Mac are what is wrong with the western world. He's quite content not to pay a blind bit of attention to the background of the story he's reading about, all he needs to do is hear the word 'muslim' and that's enough for him. Modern day Nazis. When's kristallnacht? Or was that Iraq?
Oh and you seem to condemn anything anti left as racism but yet the same people who you sympathize with are some of the biggest racists out there. I admit i do it too when it's anti my group but i do admit their faults and racial/social/class motives if they are there.
I'm dutch, we have almost the same problems with immigrants (middle eastern immigrants, for some reason polish etc are the most fair and hardworking people I've seen in ages ) - I don't say all immigrants are bad, neither am I a racist, I've got many friends that immigrated to holland and a couple of the best teachers of mine are immigrants aswell.
However, which I do hate is the scum on the street corner that turn all aggresive if you just walk by them, they're hanging around my school and always try to gang up on everyone they see going around alone. and I wonder why o why that it's 90% middle eastern people which do this, I wonder why I don't see any other ethnic group that immigrates to the netherlands display the same behaviour, I'm almost certain it has to do with the way they get raised by their parents.
Now not all middle eastern people are scum, a few good friends of mine and people I work with are very fair and just, but even they admitt that it's problematic their ethnic groups handle this way.
And to you who said "See what liberalism got you"
A big fat **** you in your face.
However, which I do hate is the scum on the street corner that turn all aggresive if you just walk by them, they're hanging around my school and always try to gang up on everyone they see going around alone. and I wonder why o why that it's 90% middle eastern people which do this, I wonder why I don't see any other ethnic group that immigrates to the netherlands display the same behaviour, I'm almost certain it has to do with the way they get raised by their parents.
Now not all middle eastern people are scum, a few good friends of mine and people I work with are very fair and just, but even they admitt that it's problematic their ethnic groups handle this way.
And to you who said "See what liberalism got you"
A big fat **** you in your face.
Last edited by dayarath (2007-12-03 10:54:17)
inane little opines
Are they the older ones above 30 or below 30? Because the ones below 30 are some of the biggest asshole thieves i've seen! Stealing from their own families! Hell stealing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dayarath wrote:
I'm dutch, we have almost the same problems with immigrants (middle eastern immigrants, for some reason polish etc are the most fair and hardworking people I've seen in ages )
older ones mainly.David.P wrote:
Are they the older ones above 30 or below 30? Because the ones below 30 are some of the biggest asshole thieves i've seen! Stealing from their own families! Hell stealing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dayarath wrote:
I'm dutch, we have almost the same problems with immigrants (middle eastern immigrants, for some reason polish etc are the most fair and hardworking people I've seen in ages )
inane little opines
K then nevermind.dayarath wrote:
older ones mainly.David.P wrote:
Are they the older ones above 30 or below 30? Because the ones below 30 are some of the biggest asshole thieves i've seen! Stealing from their own families! Hell stealing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dayarath wrote:
I'm dutch, we have almost the same problems with immigrants (middle eastern immigrants, for some reason polish etc are the most fair and hardworking people I've seen in ages )
Well said, however, what you are failing to catch is that I'm not very big into any religion (another debate) so the statement was somewhat rhetorical and generalized. You can try, but cannot deny that most of Muslim laws and policies are somwhat extreme and ultimately violent, so to speak. Plus I am not a big fan of governing with religion, which is what they do. Oh and for the record I really dont care for middle eastern muslims. Not all, just most. Kind of like you and your malcontent for Isreal.usmarine2005 wrote:
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.deeznutz1245 wrote:
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Malloy must go
Strange...I've looked through every entry on this thread...and haven't seen a single link to Fox News. What is it that Cam is ranting about again?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Cams worst nightmare would be this:FEOS wrote:
Strange...I've looked through every entry on this thread...and haven't seen a single link to Fox News. What is it that Cam is ranting about again?
Stuck in an Isreali bar drinking Bud Light next to USMarine with Fox News on the television.
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I was talking to Camdeeznutz1245 wrote:
Well said, however, what you are failing to catch is that I'm not very big into any religion (another debate) so the statement was somewhat rhetorical and generalized. You can try, but cannot deny that most of Muslim laws and policies are somwhat extreme and ultimately violent, so to speak. Plus I am not a big fan of governing with religion, which is what they do. Oh and for the record I really dont care for middle eastern muslims. Not all, just most. Kind of like you and your malcontent for Isreal.usmarine2005 wrote:
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.
.I was too.
Malloy must go
Drinking Bud Light on it's own is one of my worse nightmares.........deeznutz1245 wrote:
Cams worst nightmare would be this:FEOS wrote:
Strange...I've looked through every entry on this thread...and haven't seen a single link to Fox News. What is it that Cam is ranting about again?
Stuck in an Isreali bar drinking Bud Light next to USMarine with Fox News on the television.
Did my criticism of Fox insinuate that all other media outlets besides Fox were any more trustworthy? No. Fox is just particularly bad because it peddles dangerous propaganda that somehow manages to get through to the more neanderthal elements of the US voter base (not directed at you deeznutz). The 'Fox News' jibe now has little to do with Fox News itself but is useful when characterising people who are of a particular political persuasion or train of thought.usmarine2005 wrote:
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Religion of Peace
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-04 03:52:56)
You need to think in terms of ratings. Fox is a business after all and they are pretty good at it. They know exactly which side of the political spectrum to target, and given the fact that most media services are liberal in the US, they are making a lot of money.CameronPoe wrote:
Did my criticism of Fox insinuate that all other media outlets besides Fox were any more trustworthy? No. Fox is just particularly bad because it peddles dangerous propaganda that somehow manages to get through to the more neanderthal elements of the US voter base (not directed at you deeznutz). The 'Fox News' jibe now has little to do with Fox News itself but is useful when characterising people who are of a particular political persuasion or train of thought.usmarine2005 wrote:
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.
So I guess if they don't print news that you agree with, you label them as such? That would appear to put you in the same class of people you're complaining about, Cam.CameronPoe wrote:
Did my criticism of Fox insinuate that all other media outlets besides Fox were any more trustworthy? No. Fox is just particularly bad because it peddles dangerous propaganda that somehow manages to get through to the more neanderthal elements of the US voter base (not directed at you deeznutz). The 'Fox News' jibe now has little to do with Fox News itself but is useful when characterising people who are of a particular political persuasion or train of thought.usmarine2005 wrote:
I swear you and FOX news are like a broken fucking record. Because no other news agency would do anything like that would they? OH FUCKING WAIT....... http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/200 … almemoriesCameronPoe wrote:
Deeznutz - Islam has nothing to do with it. Are white people incapable of rioting? No. Are black people incapable of rioting? No. Do people who have nothing cause shit from time to time? Yes. It's amazing how hardline anti-muslim some of you Americans are. Fox News got you guys good.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
No I have no problems with people printing honest to goodness factual news, whether it is agreeable or disagreeable to me. What I do not like is where the lines between news and editorials get blurred and when news is presented in a cynical and emotive manner.FEOS wrote:
So I guess if they don't print news that you agree with, you label them as such? That would appear to put you in the same class of people you're complaining about, Cam.
CNN is as pathetically guilty of it as Fox is.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-04 06:03:58)
That describes the majority of the news outlets today. In order to get any objective facts out of them, you have to be running an active mental filter on their content, taking into account their obvious (and sometimes not so obvious) biases. If you do that with multiple outlets...including those with a bias diametrically opposed to your own (ie, Fox in your case), you can begin to develop an understanding of the true facts.CameronPoe wrote:
No I have no problems with people printing honest to goodness factual news, whether it is agreeable or disagreeable to me. What I do not like is where the lines between news and editorials get blurred and when news is presented in a cynical and emotive manner.
CNN is as pathetically guilty of it as Fox is.
At least it works for me.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Yes. The problem with humanity however is that the vast majority of it is a writhing mass of automatonic idiocy with the capability to discern news from opinion of a tub of lard. I am a big advocate of strong news media regulation - the TV and radio are dangerous things, as demonstrated by Hitler et al in the 30s and 40s.FEOS wrote:
That describes the majority of the news outlets today. In order to get any objective facts out of them, you have to be running an active mental filter on their content, taking into account their obvious (and sometimes not so obvious) biases. If you do that with multiple outlets...including those with a bias diametrically opposed to your own (ie, Fox in your case), you can begin to develop an understanding of the true facts.CameronPoe wrote:
No I have no problems with people printing honest to goodness factual news, whether it is agreeable or disagreeable to me. What I do not like is where the lines between news and editorials get blurred and when news is presented in a cynical and emotive manner.
CNN is as pathetically guilty of it as Fox is.
At least it works for me.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-04 06:20:58)
I cannot agree more. And anyone who says anything different are silly blind. These things can happen anywhere in the world and they do. Almost any country have had a riot in one form or extent because of poverty, social problems and general discontent amongst the public.CameronPoe wrote:
As mentioned elsewhere these people are FRENCH. Whatsmore they are ABJECTLY POOR. Whatsmore they are HEAVILY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN THE ARENA OF EMPLOYMENT. Whatsmore France has an unemployment rate approaching TEN PERCENT. This is a SOCIAL PROBLEM. This is NOT AN ISLAMIC ISSUE.
The Mac. Before you put blind trust in some shit media and post anything involving muslims or whatever, at least do some better research next time. Your topic is narrowminded and useless.
France is very conservative country and racist in some ways. that's why they have these mayor problems with smaller ethnic groups. Many other european countries has problems as well, but not on the same scale
The title struck me as very narrowminding and misinformed, I heard bout the riots, still though, reading that I can only imagine the pain of it
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