Chavez is on TV doing something he hasn’t had to do before

2007-12-02 21:44:51

#1

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7038|132 and Bush

Deliver a concession speech.

Live

Roughly, NO won 51% to 49%.

Summary for those unaware: In Venezuela, millions of people turned out to vote Sunday in a controversial referendum that, if approved, would fundamentally alter the country's political and economic model and give President Hugo Chavez broad new powers. One of the provisions would allow Chavez to run for reelection indefinitely.

http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/venezuela

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-12-02 21:47:41

#2

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7199

I don't speak jibberish

2007-12-02 21:49:51

#3

{M5}Sniper3: Typical white person.; +389|7197|San Antonio, Texas

I'm glad that didn't pass.

2007-12-02 21:50:44

#4

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6960|...

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
I'm glad that didn't pass.

2007-12-02 21:54:05

#5

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7038|132 and Bush

usmarine2005 wrote:
I don't speak jibberish

You should really learn.

Here ya go.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-12-02 21:58:10

#6

Parker: isteal; +1,452|6831|The Gem Saloon

usmarine2005 wrote:
I don't speak jibberish

drink more.

2007-12-02 22:04:22

#7

lavadisk: I am a cat ¦ 3; +369|7267|Denver colorado

Parker wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
I don't speak jibberish
drink more.

I lol'd

2007-12-02 22:12:57

#8

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,992|7069|949

As of right now, that whiznews link says he lost, the Reuters link says he won.

Huh, this link http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/ … 1220071203 says he conceded defeat. Probably just put the wrong link.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-12-02 22:20:25)

2007-12-02 22:36:12

#9

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7153

Thats great... even his people know he's looney tunes...

Love is the answer

2007-12-02 23:57:27

#10

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6993

And therein my friends lies the proof that Venezuela is a democracy. Now shut your cakeholes with the dictator crap and let him get on with his job under the ORIGINAL constitution. Unbelievably close call though.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-03 04:56:39)

2007-12-03 00:26:07

#11

konfusion: mostly afk; +480|6987|CH/BR - in UK

Heh... looks to me like he just wants to get out quietly, before anyone tries to kill him. He wants to be seen as a hero, and therefore acts like one for now...
He's smart enough, because he's not getting out too late...

-konfusion

2007-12-03 00:39:12

#12

B.Schuss: I'm back, baby... ( sort of ); +664|7278|Cologne, Germany

well, kudos to democracy. file closed.

2007-12-03 01:56:22

#13

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6728|Éire

Hang on a minute...

...if he was a dictator wouldn't he just rig this election or simply steamroll his political opponents out of the way? I wonder if all the Chavez-bashers will be crying about this election being fixed? It only seems to be rigged when Chavez wins.

2007-12-03 04:55:05

#14

PureFodder: Member; +225|6723

Go team democracy.

2007-12-03 07:02:12

#15

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6966|Global Command

Watch him overturn the results anyway.

2007-12-03 07:04:12

#16

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6993

ATG wrote:
Watch him overturn the results anyway.

I'd put money with you that he won't. You really can't understand that it is possible for someone to run a democracy outside of the west? His whole platform of 'legitimate voicebox for the oppressed masses against western exploitation' would be destroyed in a flash if he were to act contrary to the majority will of his own people. Sheesh.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-12-03 07:04:58)

2007-12-03 07:07:16

#17

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

my cousin voted no.

But I doubt this is the last we are going to hear about this issue. Whats to keep Chavez from introducing this referendum again in the future when the political climate allows.

2007-12-03 07:08:36

#18

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

People think that Chavez is loved and revered by all venezuelans. Couldnt be farther from the truth. A huge number, particularly the students, cant wait till he leaves office. Only problem is, Chavez's opposition isnt united.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-12-03 07:09:41)

2007-12-03 07:11:21

#19

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6824

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
People think that Chavez is loved and revered by all venezuelans. Couldnt be farther from the truth. A huge number, particularly the students, cant wait till he leaves office. Only problem is, Chavez's opposition isnt united.

Not to defend the Chavez, but students, in all countries, generally always hate who ever is in office.

2007-12-03 07:12:00

#20

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6993

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
People think that Chavez is loved and revered by all venezuelans. Couldnt be farther from the truth. A huge number, particularly the students, cant wait till he leaves office.

Unfortunately for them though democracy involves the majority rule, which for the forseeable future is Chavez all the way. That's what happens when a long chain of successive oligarchies and country clubbers allow an absolutely vast underclass of impoverished folk to develop in a country.

2007-12-03 07:17:14

#21

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

Chavez appeal is to the "lower" class in Venezuela and the military. But, Venezuela has always had a pretty decent economy and a strong middle class. Chavez's anti-us rhetoric is just capitalizing on what has always been there. As far as I know, people in latin american countries have always had a disdain for the States. Oh well. I think its funny h ow the media likes to play it out like hes the next Castro/Somoza/Bautista/Ortega all rolled into one. He also helps get people in other latin american countries elected as president, like Ortega in Nicaragua and that other dude in Bolivia.

2007-12-03 07:26:52

#22

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6824

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Chavez appeal is to the "lower" class in Venezuela and the military. But, Venezuela has always had a pretty decent economy and a strong middle class. Chavez's anti-us rhetoric is just capitalizing on what has always been there. As far as I know, people in latin american countries have always had a disdain for the States. Oh well. I think its funny h ow the media likes to play it out like hes the next Castro/Somoza/Bautista/Ortega all rolled into one. He also helps get people in other latin american countries elected as president, like Ortega in Nicaragua and that other dude in Bolivia.

We fucked them over a bunch late 1800s and early 1900s, still hold a grudge from that.

2007-12-03 07:31:28

#23

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

Commie Killer wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Chavez appeal is to the "lower" class in Venezuela and the military. But, Venezuela has always had a pretty decent economy and a strong middle class. Chavez's anti-us rhetoric is just capitalizing on what has always been there. As far as I know, people in latin american countries have always had a disdain for the States. Oh well. I think its funny h ow the media likes to play it out like hes the next Castro/Somoza/Bautista/Ortega all rolled into one. He also helps get people in other latin american countries elected as president, like Ortega in Nicaragua and that other dude in Bolivia.
We fucked them over a bunch late 1800s and early 1900s, still hold a grudge from that.

more so central america and the caribbean than south america.

2007-12-03 07:42:28

#24

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6824

That true. Then maybe jealousy from a 2nd world country(yes I make up my own terms) to a first? Just a guess.

2007-12-03 07:45:50

#25

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

ive always had issue with the term "3rd world" its a relic from the cold war that has nothing to do with a nation's economic strength. 1st world being the United States and our friends, 2nd World being the USSR and their camp and 3rd simply being other. I went to Venezuela in the 80's. There was no shortage of rich people or affluent neighborhoods.

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