mtb0minime
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So I'm about a week away from ordering my parts for a brand new computer (my current system is nearly 3 years old).

Should I invest in a really fast single core, or a multi core?

Right now on my list is an Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 ($189.99), but I'm reconsidering putting that money towards getting a really good single core.

Things you should know:
-I don't run many programs at once, and when gaming, it's only that program running
-I don't do any video editing or code compiling or anything of that matter
-Currently I'm not heavily into computer gaming, but I'm looking into getting more into PC games once I finally get a decent system
-I'm going to be running Vista x64 (although XP 64 isn't out of the question)
-I want to keep the price of this system under $1000 (right now it's around $800 for everything, including the processor)
nukchebi0
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+387|6801|New Haven, CT
Don't even think about a single core.
RandomSchl
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dual core, more and more games are using two cores now.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
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TBH I'd be looking at the G0 Q6600, buy an after market cooler and overclock it, or clock it to about 3 - 3.2Ghz on the stock cooler.
nukchebi0
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+387|6801|New Haven, CT
Nice mature karma messge idiot.

It's true, single core isn't worth considering. You will have no future with it.

Think before you type stupid things, idiot.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
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I want offensive karma, I feel left out
nukchebi0
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+387|6801|New Haven, CT
Not anymore.
jsnipy
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RandomSchl wrote:

dual core, more and more games are using two cores now.
even the game explicitly is not using both cores you are getting th benefit of other os process using them.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7097|Mhz

nukchebi0 wrote:

Not anymore.
YAY lol.

Anyway enough derailing.
OneSixty
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+14|6970|Melbourne
I was snooping down that road. If your comparing a 3.4 ht extreme ( the fastest 478 ) to even a e6750, just go the 6750.
I guarantee you if you spend your money, youll curse everyone else has new pc, now your broke and pretty much stuck doing the same thing.

That being said, yes i have a 3.4 w/2gb on a good motherboard to overclock ( abit ic7 max III ) and yes it does run a lot of things well, but its no system that is going to handle what is coming out NEW in the next 3 years, ALL OF IT is made for dual core. Its no secret the industry are weening out single core altogether, i am still surprised the high price the extreme p4s go for on ebay, its only because of the high demand that is still around..
second of all pcie is just as an improtant technological advance to our systems as dual core lately, thats probably the biggest reason to make the switch, agp cards are too expensive. and half the bandwidth output.
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7237|San Antonio, Texas

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I want offensive karma, I feel left out
Karma whore...

Anyways, I have a single core 4000+ and doing just fine. I built a computer with a dual core processor in it, and it was more of a pain in the ass running older game like C&C Zero hour/ RA2 / BF2 and just about any other pre-2007 game.

Last edited by {M5}Sniper3 (2007-12-02 22:22:36)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
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Yup that's me, and building a rig with the purpose of running old games is just plain silly.

BTW, you just have to set the core affinity then they run like they always have.
mtb0minime
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nukchebi0 wrote:

Nice mature karma messge idiot.

It's true, single core isn't worth considering. You will have no future with it.

Think before you type stupid things, idiot.
Wait what??? I don't get it....

I didn't karma you...


On topic: thanks for the quick replies I was strongly considering the multicore to begin with, but then this suddenly popped into my head so I wanted to be absolutely sure.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2007-12-02 22:28:25)

GC_PaNzerFIN
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buy cheap dual core and overclock it to high-end...
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
Anewgirl
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+12|6630|Vermont U.S.A
Single bore ' do they make those above a 3800 anymore ? < out dated if you get a single core make sure to get a AGP video card to match
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7237|San Antonio, Texas

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Yup that's me, and building a rig with the purpose of running old games is just plain silly.

BTW, you just have to set the core affinity then they run like they always have.
I like to play my older game that I've bought, silly? No. (This isn't a mac...) Anyways, I know that you can set the core affinity each and every time you start a program, but that gets annoying, fast. I could make batch files for the shortcut to set the affinity, but I never got around to it.

Fine, buy a dual core but be aware that some programs don't like dual core, at all, and that you will have to set the core affinity on most every older piece of software that you have.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7097|Mhz

All my old software defaults to core 0, guess that's just me.
nukchebi0
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+387|6801|New Haven, CT
Assumably you want the computer to last you.

The dual core is much more future proof.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007. … ;chart=419

Look at that.



Edit: And to the immature moron who did give me the karma, please realize there is more to life than insulting people anonymously to improve your self-esteem. Being nice gives you a sense of accomplishment and resolves your problem too. (Idiot).

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2007-12-02 22:34:38)

mtb0minime
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Hmm... I do like playing older games, though

I'm definitely going to get Orange Box and CoD4, but I still play BF2 a whole lot and fast loading times would be nice. Plus I still love Quake 3 Arena and Return to Castle Wolfenstein...

So even if I set the core affinity, would that one core be faster than my current AMD Sempron 3000+? (I imagine it would be, this thing is slow as shit)

Edit: And yes I do want this computer to be future proof. I haven't upgraded anything of my current system (aside from adding more RAM), and I don't like buying new systems every year or every two years, so I definitely want this to last a long time. Dual Core is in the lead right now, but who knows what will happen within the next week.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2007-12-02 22:35:24)

nukchebi0
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Yes.

Remember: BF2 loading times are very RAM dependent, not CPU.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2007-12-02 22:36:25)

TheEternalPessimist
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+412|7097|Mhz

Yeah running on a single core it's still be faster, and all those games run on dual core without setting the affintity (Wolfenstein might need it doing manually), not sure they'll run on a 64bit OS though.
nukchebi0
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+387|6801|New Haven, CT

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Yeah running on a single core it's still be faster, and all those games run on dual core without setting the affintity (Wolfenstein might need it doing manually), not sure they'll run on a 64bit OS though.
Compatibility mode should fix that, no?
mtb0minime
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nukchebi0 wrote:

Yes.

Remember: BF2 loading times are very RAM dependent, not CPU.
Oh that's right. Right now I have 2 gig of RAM, though, and it still has to play through the entire loading song until I can finally join the game. I always blamed it on my CPU But this new system will have 4 gigs, hallelujah for cheap RAM!


Edit: And yeah I'll have to change the settings because of the 64 bit. Like I mentioned, I'll have 4 gigs of RAM, and if I'm not mistaken, 32-bit OS doesn't recognize all of it.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2007-12-02 22:39:55)

{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7237|San Antonio, Texas
Go with the dual core. I just wanted you to be aware of some of the things that might come up.


mtb0minime wrote:

But this new system will have 4 gigs, hallelujah for cheap RAM!
I would recommend not cutting corners with cheap no-name RAM.

mtb0minime wrote:

Edit: And yeah I'll have to change the settings because of the 64 bit. Like I mentioned, I'll have 4 gigs of RAM, and if I'm not mistaken, 32-bit OS doesn't recognize all of it.
Correct, Windows 32-bit edition will only recognize up to 3.99 GB of RAM.


TheEternalPessimist wrote:

All my old software defaults to core 0, guess that's just me.
Really? Well, for me, not even BF2 would set itself to a single core.

Last edited by {M5}Sniper3 (2007-12-02 22:43:07)

mtb0minime
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{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

But this new system will have 4 gigs, hallelujah for cheap RAM!
I would recommend not cutting corners with cheap no-name RAM.
What about GSkill? I looked up a bunch of reviews on NewEgg and it seemed to be fine. I'll take another look, though.

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