TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
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{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

All my old software defaults to core 0, guess that's just me.
Really? Well, for me, not even BF2 would set itself to a single core.
I run BF2 on 2 cores, works fine.

mtb0minime wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

But this new system will have 4 gigs, hallelujah for cheap RAM!
I would recommend not cutting corners with cheap no-name RAM.
What about GSkill? I looked up a bunch of reviews on NewEgg and it seemed to be fine. I'll take another look, though.
GSkill aren't bad, main thing is go for the highest speed you can afford and make sure the timings are good, 1066Mhz CL5 is about average for DDR2 (I'm assuming you aren't bothering with DDR3)

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2007-12-02 22:50:19)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6801|New Haven, CT
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7237|San Antonio, Texas

mtb0minime wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

But this new system will have 4 gigs, hallelujah for cheap RAM!
I would recommend not cutting corners with cheap no-name RAM.
What about GSkill? I looked up a bunch of reviews on NewEgg and it seemed to be fine. I'll take another look, though.
I have never bought/used their products, but they seem to be a reputable company. I was going more along the lines of not getting this.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7097|Mhz

nukchebi0 wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

This, cough.
Bit slow. RAM is one thing you really don't want to be stingy with.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820148069 <-- Much better.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2007-12-02 22:55:30)

mtb0minime
minimember
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LOL! No way! I refuse to order computer parts off eBay, and especially from shady companies like that.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2007-12-02 22:56:31)

OneSixty
Member
+14|6970|Melbourne
what a load of rubbish games dont work in dual core, Hyper threading acted the same as dual core basically, 4-5 years ago and there were very few issues with recognition even then, you dont think people have a grip on that technology? Yes there are proggys that do have issues, either keep an old pc for them or forget about them. But its not like people havnt had dual cpus or the like for ages and cant do anything with them.

I dont understand why people even bother with ddr 800. apart from a video editor in some specific circumstance, need such crucial memory timings that that would actually be a viable piece of technology to invest in..
DDR800 is purely a budget system buy. Why have your timings so underclocked for a differance of $50. Especially if your planning to overclock these core duos..that a natural 3/4 4/5 or 3/5 cycle ( not gonna bother counting, anyone who understands will get where im going )... what can you push with that..

Last edited by OneSixty (2007-12-02 23:02:03)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6801|New Haven, CT

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

This, cough.
Bit slow. RAM is one thing you really don't want to be stingy with.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820148069 <-- Much better.
Overpriced. I have the first RAM and I still get 5.9 in Vista experience index. There isn't enough benefit to warrant spending twice the price.

At OP: The deal on the RAM I showed is really good.
theknuck
It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!
+45|7089|balls
do they even make single cores anymore?
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6970|N. Ireland

mtb0minime wrote:

LOL! No way! I refuse to order computer parts off eBay, and especially from shady companies like that.
Sigh.. 25375 powerseller, 99.1% positive. If you are worried by that, seek help.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7097|Mhz

nukchebi0 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

This, cough.
Bit slow. RAM is one thing you really don't want to be stingy with.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820148069 <-- Much better.
Overpriced. I have the first RAM and I still get 5.9 in Vista experience index. There isn't enough benefit to warrant spending twice the price.

At OP: The deal on the RAM I showed is really good.
Any old shit will get a 5.9 or close to, it benches on pretty outdated numbers, 800Mhz RAM is for a budget system, $30 isn't much more and the performance gain is actually pretty huge.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6801|New Haven, CT
800 is not for a budget system. 667 or 533 is.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7132

kylef wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

LOL! No way! I refuse to order computer parts off eBay, and especially from shady companies like that.
Sigh.. 25375 powerseller, 99.1% positive. If you are worried by that, seek help.
No I trust that. But for some odd reason I just don't want to buy things like computer parts off eBay. Matter of fact, I don't buy much off eBay except the occasional videogame or music CD that I can't find in regular stores.
OneSixty
Member
+14|6970|Melbourne

nukchebi0 wrote:

800 is not for a budget system. 667 or 533 is.
on a 1066 board why would you get ddr800 .. elaborate why thats not a budget system?
In such a small amount of time  ( the last 2 years ) we went from 533, 677 was the new thing 3 months later. 800 came out soon after and was overshadowed by at least 3-4 higher mhz jumps.  Dont delude yourself by thinking its anything but budget. Im not saying it isnt a capeable speed of ram to run, 533 is good too if you compare it to ddr233. But its not anything good thats for sure. And as i said i dont understand why you wouldnt get 1066ram on a 1066 m/b with a 1066 or 1333 processor. A budget is the only reason. ( specifically as i said if you want to overclock core2's )
533 or 667 is not even in the equasion imo, might as well be ddr400 still.

It was the exact same thing when ddr333 came out. ddr 266 was out for ages, and i never got it, ddr333 came out and 3 months later ddr 400 came out and io needed to buy the new mb and ram to do what i was doing.. ddr333 was a waste of time and money. So i see that with 533 or 667..

Last edited by OneSixty (2007-12-03 00:15:03)

FloppY_
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+1,010|6763|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
Seriously,, i thought this thread was 3 years old when i saw the topic...

Single cores are dead... dual, quad or even dual-quad (yes 8) are the cores of today !



EDIT: If you choose to get a single core you should by a floppydrive too.. because that is equally outdated...

Last edited by FloppY_ (2007-12-03 00:14:54)

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mtb0minime
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Ok, well since this topic has since moved on to a RAM discussion, I won't be able to get very fast RAM because the motherboard I'm looking at is DDR2 800. I'm assuming I should make the jump to a higher speed? However, this is a budget system since I'm trying to keep it at a low cost (around $800). I would like to buy the computer next week to have plenty of time to game it up during the upcoming winter break, but I guess I could wait for Christmas money to come in and spend the additional money needed for a better motherboard (or just take out more money from savings than I initially intended ).

I will be using this for gaming, so should I get the 2 GB of fast RAM instead of the 4 GB of DDR2 800 RAM?


I also want to say thanks to everyone who posted in this thread As you can tell I'm not the brightest when it comes to building new comps and you guys have definitely helped out
Reciprocity
Member
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i have a sweet 5 year old dell xps with  canterwood mobo and a P4 3.0gigglehertz processor.  superfast ddr memory, and an ati x850xtpe vga.  two thousand buck and it's yours.


you want cheap, good ram?  this is the shit for you. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145034

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-12-03 00:26:45)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6801|New Haven, CT
800 is fine for your budget. Unless you are overclocking extremely, the 1066 isn't needed and isn't worth the money.
OneSixty
Member
+14|6970|Melbourne
404..
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7132

Yeah I don't plan on overclocking at all. I'm not a heavy gamer, and I don't know nearly as much as I should if I'm going to try overclocking. Maybe for a future system, but right now it just isn't worth it. Especially since the newest PC game I own is BF2
gvers
Bad at BF:BC2
+109|7149|The Real World

nukchebi0 wrote:

800 is fine for your budget. Unless you are overclocking extremely, the 1066 isn't needed and isn't worth the money.
Agreed
OneSixty
Member
+14|6970|Melbourne
Then if your on a serious budget, do people agree its just not worth the extra for the differance in a FSb800 and FSB1066 cpu?
I couldnt imagine someone would have reccomended getting the fsb800 cpu, but thats why im intrested..

Maybe you should consider an e4600. The same processor, but a comparable mhz rating  . 85-100 bucks cheaper, if you really dont think you need the power why pay for it elsewhere?

I dissagree totally, and would ( am infact ) hold out for both 1066fsb 1:1 .
I understand that some people who have PLENTY of $$$ can talk though their ass about how the new shit is the best, and obviously it would be, but im not rich and dont want to be percieved as arrogant about the issue. Its all about getting the right thing, not the highest spec.

The fact of the matter is that i cant afford to spend my money half assed, or thats not gonna be all i need. Do it properly, learn exactly what your money buys you for what you budget is, learn the current technology and whats gonna change. It takes about 2 hrs really. Youll never curse anything you do when your confidently educated about spending that hard to find cash.

IMO anyone that reccomends you by a 128-bit graphics card should be shot. I had one in 2001.. who cares if its got 1terrabyte of mb, if you have a bottleneck like that it only takes to to certain points, and then nothing can help ya.

If your on a budget and on top of it ONLY playing bf2 ( something that doesnt need dx10 ) why not save your money get a second hand 7800 or x1950, save the cash antill you need to play dx10 and get something that can.. i wouldnt wish a mid range card on my worst enemy. They are such a decrease in technology. Not even dual 8600gts nothing.. not capeable of new games and overpriced dx10 for old games,why??

So your on a real budget ..e4600 ddr800 x1950 good budget system. and yes its is a very budget system. Spending your money knowing about instant limitations, all the new games you cant play, not can.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7193
Value ram is fine... I have Kingston thats been ocd for 2 years... 

and dual cores are so reasonable now price wise... it would be silly to get a single core...
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7132

Yeah I had already planned on going with an X1950. It's DX9, which is all I need at the moment, and I can upgrade later if I need to. The processor I want to stick with the E6750 because I'm not on too strict a budget. I'm just going budget on the videocard because I can upgrade later and according to Toms Hardware, the 8600 GT is worse. I think eventually I'll go with an 8800 GT once they become available and the price drops. The RAM now is cheap enough anyways that I can just buy new, faster sticks later on if I upgrade the Mobo.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7193
8800gts are available... and ive seen them as cheap as 240 bucks... most are around 300 though... evga has a good trade up program
http://www.nextag.com/8800-gt/search-ht … 339A8BC50B
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