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anytime you have extremist of any type in control of a country with nuclear material of any grade there is a threat (PAKISTAN,NORTH KOREA BALTIC STATES etc )what make Iran different.

SenorToenails wrote:

Bush doesn't like Iran and he thinks they could be a threat.  That's all this is saying.

The president stressed that Iran was still trying to enrich uranium and could restart its weapons programme.

colgas101 wrote:

anytime you have extremist of any type in control of a country with nuclear material of any grade there is a threat (PAKISTAN,NORTH KOREA BALTIC STATES etc )what make Iran different.

What makes the U.S. any different? Russia? I know, cliche commentary, but I had to, since it was an open spot

Wtf Baltic States? Extremist? Nuclear? I think not.

As I said in the other post for once I agree with Bush

Ahmedinejad is a madman who can't be trusted, and I'm sure he's actually still trying to make a bomb.

CameronPoe wrote:

The funny thing is that Iran, even with nuclear weapons, poses little or no meaningful threat to either Europe or the US. People tend not to consider that. Why Bush cares about a country almost 10,000 miles away is beyond me.

Oh and, he wishes to kind of vaporize Israel.

CameronPoe wrote:

The funny thing is that Iran, even with nuclear weapons, poses little or no meaningful threat to either Europe or the US. People tend not to consider that. Why Bush cares about a country almost 10,000 miles away is beyond me.

The problem that Bush probably has is something about Iran "losing" a nuke to a terrorist organization.  Take what you will with that, but I think that's the main issue.

Missionless wrote:

Iran is doing what most other big countries have, Nuclear weapon production. USA, UK, France, even Israel [loads more] I've heard, all got nuclear weapons so why the fuck wont this stupid US "president" stop poking into shit thats none of his business.

This "President" is looking at how Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.  The thing about that treaty is that it allows use and development of nuclear power, etc.., but no bombs.  It is immaterial that the US, UK, France, and even Israel have loads of them.

dayarath wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The funny thing is that Iran, even with nuclear weapons, poses little or no meaningful threat to either Europe or the US. People tend not to consider that. Why Bush cares about a country almost 10,000 miles away is beyond me.

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Oh and, he wishes to kind of vaporize Israel.

In case you were unaware of this both France and the UK have sizeable nuclear arsenals and superior military capabilities to Iran. Generally midgets don't attack giants for fear of being beaten to a bloody pulp. It makes no logical sense to fear them. They have no interest in attacking Europe, to whom they sell copious amounts of oil and other produce. What it has to do with the US is still beyond me and for the record Israel is not in Europe or USA and again they wouldn't bother bombing Israel for fear of the fate that would befall their country if they did.

Look it isn't about wether who's got the most nukes, I know Israel has got way more and we've got anti-missile defense systems but what IF he gets the crazy idea of launching them bombs to another country, and it might hit.

You aren't immediately prepared at a random moment for a hostile missile launch and if it might hit ground it hits good, and very hard. We don't want that to happen so you better take the problem at the roots or else it might escalate if he obtains his missiles.

Ahmedinejad is terrorizing his own country already by strict religious law enforcement and has made multipile threats towards Israel, I didn't trust him back then and certainly not now.

CameronPoe wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Look it isn't about wether who's got the most nukes, I know Israel has got way more and we've got anti-missile defense systems but what IF he gets the crazy idea of launching them bombs to another country, and it might hit.

You aren't immediately prepared at a random moment for a hostile missile launch and if it might hit ground it hits good, and very hard. We don't want that to happen so you better take the problem at the roots or else it might escalate if he obtains his missiles.

Ahmedinejad is terrorizing his own country already by strict religious law enforcement and has made multipile threats towards Israel, I didn't trust him back then and certainly not now.

He lives in a democracy and is answerable to the citizens of Iran and their representatives in parliament. He can't just wake up in the morning and decide he feels like firing a nuke at Bucharest. At the moment members of the Iranian parliament are becoming increasingly vocal in their criticism of his pointless loudmouth rhetoric. The fact of the matter is you cannot fire first on someone who has never threatened you. It's called being the bad guy. If you do take a hit you retaliate with everything you've got and reduce them to cinders and ashes. The idea of Iran as a meaningful threat is laughable and is a total smokescreen for the real reasons western nations continually snipe at Iran.

Iran is an islamic republic. Certain Islamic codes of conduct and aspects of Islamic law seem abhorrent and warped to us but to the majority of muslims they like it just fine. To play the cultural 'superiority' card is naive and condescending.

He's not really answerable to women, only men but that's what you get in a religiously led country as women you aren't allowed to do anything, even if you wear eye makeup underneath your burka you'll be in trouble. Also he kind of made the "Anti-america bond" togheter with Chavez and declared the US dollar worthless now. This is very problematic and might set foot for an economical disaster if China gets convinced of that too, making the 1929 crisis look like child's play. And I will bet you most women don't like it there, ofcourse for men it's really good wouldn't you think so?

Being loudmouthed in politics is pretty serious, especially if you're wishing death threats to all of israel and promise to eliminate the whole country.

So what exactly is the "real reason" behind the uranium sanctions? I really don't like the guy and I'm sure he's up to something now that he is being friendly towards everyone, which seems unusual.

Firing first is not the problem, didn't Hitler fire first aswell - his own parlement didn't stop him and he rose democratically. Iran will become a meaningfull threat the moment they get their hands on a nuke (or rather, Ahmedinejad) Now their ballistic missiles are pretty much a threat also, it isn't really that much of a laughable case.

Retaliating as I said before isn't the problem, the case of him actually attacking Israel and hitting something is.

dayarath wrote:

Look it isn't about wether who's got the most nukes, I know Israel has got way more and we've got anti-missile defense systems but what IF he gets the crazy idea of launching them bombs to another country, and it might hit.

You aren't immediately prepared at a random moment for a hostile missile launch and if it might hit ground it hits good, and very hard. We don't want that to happen so you better take the problem at the roots or else it might escalate if he obtains his missiles.

Ahmedinejad is terrorizing his own country already by strict religious law enforcement and has made multipile threats towards Israel, I didn't trust him back then and certainly not now.

What if the president of Israel goes happytrigger and nukes some Arab country?  Israel didn't even sign the NPT which Iran did Ffs.

sergeriver wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Look it isn't about wether who's got the most nukes, I know Israel has got way more and we've got anti-missile defense systems but what IF he gets the crazy idea of launching them bombs to another country, and it might hit.

You aren't immediately prepared at a random moment for a hostile missile launch and if it might hit ground it hits good, and very hard. We don't want that to happen so you better take the problem at the roots or else it might escalate if he obtains his missiles.

Ahmedinejad is terrorizing his own country already by strict religious law enforcement and has made multipile threats towards Israel, I didn't trust him back then and certainly not now.

What if the president of Israel goes happytrigger and nukes some Arab country?  Israel didn't even sign the NPT which Iran did Ffs.

This is a good point as well. I don't think it's an excuse to allow nuclear weapons to proliferate to other countries. However it's extremely biased to not expect Israel to at the VERY least declare their Nukes (and probably get rid of them). It's a very volatile area and the US is not the almighty judge of moral supremacy.