SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6567|North Tonawanda, NY

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

OK, well, you gotta admit, most of your fellow country men do seem to think that war is something that has only ever happened to them.
I don't know where you got this idea.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7203|Cambridge (UK)

SenorToenails wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

OK, well, you gotta admit, most of your fellow country men do seem to think that war is something that has only ever happened to them.
I don't know where you got this idea.
Well, OK, most of the ones I've met either online or in real life, but, assuming that I've probably met a fairly representative cross section, I do think the generalisation is a valid one.
trackstarr
Member
+18|7139|Swing and a miss

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Im as American as a person can be...
OK, well, you gotta admit, most of your fellow country men do seem to think that war is something that has only ever happened to them.

I mean, it's like as if half of Europe didn't get firebombed on an almost daily basis during WWII.

trackstarr wrote:

This is just a day of remembrance because it was a major "surprise" attack that killed many unaware soldiers.
If we had a day of remembrance for every single event where lots of people died during war time, there'd be one every single day!
This is not world history
Its for the U.S.
We are not shoving "remember our veterans" down your throat
This day is just important to us.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7086
When the US bombed the Japanese....How could I forget?
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7102|NT, like Mick Dundee

Aye. The day of the pre-emptive strike by the Japanese.

A sad one to be sure. The day the Pacific erupted into war and that World War 2 became a global conflict.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6915|Communist Republic of CA, USA
This day strikes a very personal note amongst many Americans (at least those with a smidgin of history).  We're not trying to shove the "ZOMG FEEL BAD FOR US AND BUY OUR SUV'S" line down your throat (again), we just want to bring to attention this sad day in our nation's history.  If an English person were to come on here and ask for some remembrance of a large massacre in their history, I would respect that.  (I appologize for not being able to name one off of the top of my head,  please blame the US Education System).  There are some things that can be joked around, and others that do require some degree of maturity, especially on the D&ST section of this forum.
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de
I still do not understand, why the Japanese didn´t send a third wave to finish them all...

day of infamy.. lol.. it was a day of incompetence
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7153

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

I still do not understand, why the Japanese didn´t send a third wave to finish them all...

day of infamy.. lol.. it was a day of incompetence
Who won the war... lol?
Love is the answer
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de
who got the japanese on their radar and thought, it might be some own bombers? who fought with a japanese submarine? pearl harbour could have been less painfull for the us, if they wouldn´t have been so incompetent on this day.
and japan would have had it easier, if they had sent in a third and a fourth wave, to finish the pacific fleet off...
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6992
Radars ftw.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7058|London, England
Nothing to be sad about. You got revenge in the best way possible. You (and other Allies) Totally kicked the shit out of Japan from there on.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-12-07 03:52:14)

SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6567|North Tonawanda, NY

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

who got the japanese on their radar and thought, it might be some own bombers? who fought with a japanese submarine? pearl harbour could have been less painfull for the us, if they wouldn´t have been so incompetent on this day.
and japan would have had it easier, if they had sent in a third and a fourth wave, to finish the pacific fleet off...
You do realize that several USAAF B17's were scheduled to arrive from the same direction (within a few degrees) as the Japanese bombers, so the radar signature was misidentified.  The presence of midget submarines in the harbor did not mean that an air strike was on the way either.  Hindsight is always 20/20.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7122|United States of America
The Pacific Fleet would still not be licked just yet. A third/fourth wave would've just furthered the damage and casualties at Pearl, but the carriers were still out at sea at that point.
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|7023|Sweden
I will be honoring this day by plaing this game :    http://www.pearlharbor-game.com/

As Japanese because they have better planes.
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de

DesertFox- wrote:

The Pacific Fleet would still not be licked just yet. A third/fourth wave would've just furthered the damage and casualties at Pearl, but the carriers were still out at sea at that point.
but there would still have been a difference between damaged and destroyed...
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6966|Global Command
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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7081

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

who got the japanese on their radar and thought, it might be some own bombers? who fought with a japanese submarine? pearl harbour could have been less painfull for the us, if they wouldn´t have been so incompetent on this day.
and japan would have had it easier, if they had sent in a third and a fourth wave, to finish the pacific fleet off...
20/20
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de
what´s "20/20"?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7081

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

what´s "20/20"?
hindsight
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

When the US bombed the Japanese....How could I forget?
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7058|London, England
Also the best form of Cricket. Twenty overs each. Have at it.

Ok ontopic, why did the Japanese even attack the US in the first place? (cant be arsed reading the 10 page wiki article, someone summarise it please)
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7110|Colorado
And after all that we rebuilt them & helped them start over, no other country would have done that. Of course we felt bad for nuking them but that's besides the point.
I wish everyone still felt the outrage from being attacked on 9/11 so we could finish the job & take out Iran n'freinds but the new administration will want nothing to do with war, & the family's I'm sure are tired of their loved ones being away. It's sad because they will attack us again, mark my words.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7081

Mekstizzle wrote:

Also the best form of Cricket. Twenty overs each. Have at it.

Ok ontopic, why did the Japanese even attack the US in the first place? (cant be arsed reading the 10 page wiki article, someone summarise it please)
we cut them off of supplies because of their agression in china, they get mad and attack us by surprise so they wouldnt have to worry about us attacking them as they conquer more lands to feed their war machine.  I think in particular what they missed the most from us was scrap metal.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Also the best form of Cricket. Twenty overs each. Have at it.

Ok ontopic, why did the Japanese even attack the US in the first place? (cant be arsed reading the 10 page wiki article, someone summarise it please)
we cut them off of supplies because of their agression in china, they get mad and attack us by surprise so they wouldnt have to worry about us attacking them as they conquer more lands to feed their war machine.  I think in particular what they missed the most from us was scrap metal.
We were also negotiating with them to form a peace accord. It was also smoke of course.

My Parents were in Hawaii last month. These are from their trip.
https://i11.tinypic.com/8epxwco.jpg

https://i19.tinypic.com/81g7bf7.jpg

https://i2.tinypic.com/8b765g7.jpg

https://i8.tinypic.com/6pydp1y.jpg

https://i15.tinypic.com/6sri4oo.jpg


Did you know 48 civilians died from US anti-Aircraft fire? The bullets were coming down in Honolulu.
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