Mafia47
Member
+27|7218|Chicago
So my sister (shes graduating an art college this coming summer or w/e) and needs to get a new mac PC for all her fancy pancy photoshops and macromedias flashes etc so uhhh . . . She has about $4,000 to spend (including monitor) and wants lots of ram and HD space. So where is the best place to go, because in my opinion isn't the apple store prices outrageously overpriced or? I did a little self build thing at the apple store online and it really didn't seem like she's getting her monies worth for the price. Any suggestions/tips/w/e is helpful
Mitch
16 more years
+877|7003|South Florida

Mafia47 wrote:

needs to get a new mac PC
What is a 'mac pc'

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Reciprocity
Member
+721|7058|the dank(super) side of Oregon
macs are always expensive.  one of the reasons I stopped using them.
djphetal
Go Ducks.
+346|6813|Oregon
online is like... the only place to buy them, and yeah, you don't get your money's worth...
Mitch
16 more years
+877|7003|South Florida
macs are way over priced.
for the price of a mac, you could have one of the best gaming PC's available. You could have terabytes of harddrive space, and 8gb of ram. and freakin amazing graphics, and all you have to do is run Windows. Which is IMO a superior OS. They even have mods to make it look more like a Mac FFS.

Save your money and buy something you'll never have to regret.
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Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7193
She should buy a 1500 dollar PC and use the 2500 extra bucks for a vacation...  PShop/Illustrator and Flash work the same on PC or MAC...
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7132

Queue Bernadictus Mac advice in 5... 4...
trippy982
Member
+34|6875
If she's gonna go with a Mac, I suggest getting it online such as Newegg (yes they sell Macs too) since there a little cheaper.
Mafia47
Member
+27|7218|Chicago
oh sorry i meant mac with a tower (not PC) and not the all in one monitor/computer deals and yeah I tell her how over priced they seem and she doesn't seem to care. . . oh well w/e whats $4,000 more in debt when your already $20,000+ in debt lol
Mitch
16 more years
+877|7003|South Florida

Mafia47 wrote:

oh sorry i meant mac with a tower (not PC) and not the all in one monitor/computer deals and yeah I tell her how over priced they seem and she doesn't seem to care. . . oh well w/e whats $4,000 more in debt when your already $20,000+ in debt lol
The word your looking for is a Desktop Mac. Theres either desktops or laptops.

Last edited by Mitch (2007-12-07 22:16:22)

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elbekko
Your lord and master
+36|6878|Leuven, Belgium
'Macintosh Personal Computer' is a perfectly acceptable phrase.

But yeah, if it's just for graphics work, get a decent PC, put XP on it, perhaps disable some of the fancyness, and it'll own a mac.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|7162|Espoo, Finland
Atleast don't buy an Apple monitor.
avman633
Member
+116|6842
Why don't you show her an extremely good pc for $2500 in comparison to a mac? If she still doesn't care, let her waste her money on a Mac Pro where the base price is $2500
The#1Spot
Member
+105|7017|byah
with my 600$ system i can run on crysis on all medium 1280x1024 at about 15-25fps
bennisboy
Member
+829|7124|Poundland
JEBUS, I just looked on the mac site at their laptops, its about twice the price of mine for less than half the performance
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

Don't buy a Mac*. They are absurdly expensive, use shoddy low grade hardware made in China and poorly configured, they also have more regular hardware faults than PCs and cost an astonishing amount to repair. The biggest reason people have for getting Macs is that they look pretty - you could just buy a PowerMac G5 Chassis on Ebay and stick proper PC components in it.

If she really has to have a Mac, the Mac Pros are okish, although despite the decent performance of the Intel based Macs I'm still highly sceptical of the EFI firmware (although NVRAM resets (Hold Option+Command+P+R at startup) often solve issues when it has them) and I don't like the expensive FB-DIMMS that the Mac Pro uses.


*Unless using Final Cut Pro or Logik Pro.
Mafia47
Member
+27|7218|Chicago
well the problem is she's graduating as a graphic designer and has an internship in Chicago right now at a place called Digital Kitchen and her old computer is heavily outdated and dieing right now. I don't really think PC's are an option because she needs to be able to use all of the Mac only programs (I forget which ones those are) She may or may not know the huge price difference between the two but. . . Really I don't think it's possible to change her mind. So basically if your getting a Mac you have to bite the bullet and spend a shit ton of money. . . Glad its not my money lol
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6838|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
Isnt is possible to custom build a computer and then install Leopard on it?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

Mafia47 wrote:

well the problem is she's graduating as a graphic designer and has an internship in Chicago right now at a place called Digital Kitchen and her old computer is heavily outdated and dieing right now. I don't really think PC's are an option because she needs to be able to use all of the Mac only programs (I forget which ones those are) She may or may not know the huge price difference between the two but. . . Really I don't think it's possible to change her mind. So basically if your getting a Mac you have to bite the bullet and spend a shit ton of money. . . Glad its not my money lol
What Mac only programs? There are hardly any. The only ones worth using are Final Cut and Logik.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|7162|Espoo, Finland

ceslayer23 wrote:

Isnt is possible to custom build a computer and then install Leopard on it?
I was actually wondering this my self.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

Gawwad wrote:

ceslayer23 wrote:

Isnt is possible to custom build a computer and then install Leopard on it?
I was actually wondering this my self.
Yes it is.

Tiger certainly, I've done it. Leopard I haven't tried it with yet. It does depend quite heavily on your hardware configuration though.
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|7048|USA
as long as it has an intel chip and not an AMD it should work fine, but i think your OS has to be slightly modded.
~{TPP}~richoxon
I Want a New Duck
+43|7045|Up a tree

The#1Spot wrote:

with my 600$ system i can run on crysis on all medium 1280x1024 at about 15-25fps
sounds like a reason to spend more than 600 then !
bennisboy
Member
+829|7124|Poundland
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[TUF]Whiskey_Oktober
mmmm...Toasty!
+91|7199|Oregon
for what you can get for a PC with 4k vs what you can get with a mac....the PC wins by a lot. macs used to be better for graphic-arts stuff, but thats really only true now for video (Final Cut wins over anything on PC).

with 4000 on a home-built PC system, you could easily get 4GB DDR3 ram, 2TB storage, Quad-Core xtreme edition processor, a fire-gl or similar gfx card, and 2x 24" Samsung Widescreen LCD. thats about as good as it gets. lets see a mac get near that...

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