The police faces stress situations everyday, and after all they are humans, and shit happens. In the UK regular policemen don't carry firearms, except for North Ireland I think. What do you think? Should the rest of the world copy this or leaving a policeman without a firearm is dangerous for him? Would you feel safer having a police without firearms?
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Should the police carry firearms?
| They should carry firearms | 73% | 73% - 118 | ||||
| It depends on the district | 12% | 12% - 20 | ||||
| They should carry a baton or a taser, but no firearms | 12% | 12% - 20 | ||||
| Other | 1% | 1% - 3 | ||||
| Total: 161 | ||||||
Hmmmm, why don't you post this question to the families of slain police officers who were killed in the line of duty. I for one say they don't carry enough weapons and there under paid.sergeriver wrote:
The police faces stress situations everyday, and after all they are humans, and shit happens. In the UK regular policemen don't carry firearms, except for North Ireland I think. What do you think? Should the rest of the world copy this or leaving a policeman without a firearm is dangerous for him? Would you feel safer having a police without firearms?
*sighs*
Malloy must go
Youre kidding right? They dont carry firearms? Thats pathetic. If someone pulls a gun on them theyre helpless. If they see someone shooting they cant do shit about it. What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
If you take the US as an example, I think it would be rather ridiculous if the general public were allowed to carry guns and the police weren't.
After all they're the ones who are supposed to enforce the abidance of law and order. You can't have them equipped worse than the average civilian.
After all they're the ones who are supposed to enforce the abidance of law and order. You can't have them equipped worse than the average civilian.
Strngs012 wrote:
Hmmmm, why don't you post this question to the families of slain police officers who were killed in the line of duty. I for one say they don't carry enough weapons and there under paid.sergeriver wrote:
The police faces stress situations everyday, and after all they are humans, and shit happens. In the UK regular policemen don't carry firearms, except for North Ireland I think. What do you think? Should the rest of the world copy this or leaving a policeman without a firearm is dangerous for him? Would you feel safer having a police without firearms?
Malloy must go
Apparently the UK.Dragonclaw wrote:
What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
I'm not saying whether or not they should carry firearms, I just asked a question.Strngs012 wrote:
Hmmmm, why don't you post this question to the families of slain police officers who were killed in the line of duty. I for one say they don't carry enough weapons and there under paid.sergeriver wrote:
The police faces stress situations everyday, and after all they are humans, and shit happens. In the UK regular policemen don't carry firearms, except for North Ireland I think. What do you think? Should the rest of the world copy this or leaving a policeman without a firearm is dangerous for him? Would you feel safer having a police without firearms?
One where gun crime isn't a major problem.Dragonclaw wrote:
Youre kidding right? They dont carry firearms? Thats pathetic. If someone pulls a gun on them theyre helpless. If they see someone shooting they cant do shit about it. What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
If you give the police guns to protect them against the minority of armed criminals, it forces unarmed criminals to get a gun to defend themselves against the armed police and up goes the homicide rate. Nobody wins, society looses.
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
[Edit} obviously this changes if the civillian populace is armed.
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
[Edit} obviously this changes if the civillian populace is armed.
Last edited by PureFodder (2007-12-08 05:54:03)
The good thing about the UK is that neither groups has guns. Yes there are a lot out there, but only used civilian v civilian.
Sorry to disagree but as soon as you give the police guns the amount of illegal guns HUGELY increases. I feel safer without guns at all.
Sorry to disagree but as soon as you give the police guns the amount of illegal guns HUGELY increases. I feel safer without guns at all.
I'd rather have the police carry them and not need them.
Instead of needing them and not carrying them.
Instead of needing them and not carrying them.
The British, over here we have the SO19 Unit and special weapons units, the police call them when theres a spot of truoble.Dragonclaw wrote:
Youre kidding right? They dont carry firearms? Thats pathetic. If someone pulls a gun on them theyre helpless. If they see someone shooting they cant do shit about it. What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
Guns are banned in the UK, so it is extremely rare a civilian pulls a gun on a policeman. It`s not pathetic because the Government is not going to waste money on giving guns and training to police officers if gun crime is rare in the UK.Dragonclaw wrote:
Youre kidding right? They dont carry firearms? Thats pathetic. If someone pulls a gun on them theyre helpless. If they see someone shooting they cant do shit about it. What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
They aren't issued firearms except for some officers in special situations, but I guess someone from UK could explain this better than me.Strngs012 wrote:
Apparently the UK.Dragonclaw wrote:
What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
without a doubt, firearms and no police = problem.
I dont think the general bobby in the UK should have guns... (the armed response units are enough)
...but I dont think it would work to take guns from cops in most places in the states
...but I dont think it would work to take guns from cops in most places in the states
So if I took the top 5 highest crime rated towns in America I would find that 100% of the cops carry guns in those towns?PureFodder wrote:
If you give the police guns to protect them against the minority of armed criminals, it forces unarmed criminals to get a gun to defend themselves against the armed police and up goes the homicide rate. Nobody wins, society looses.
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
[Edit} obviously this changes if the civillian populace is armed.
Wait. If I were to find the 5 lowest crime rated towns in America I bet I would find the cops carry guns there too.
Malloy must go
Ok Genius your the cop, you have no weapon. You come across an armed drug dealer and he has his .357 mag pointed at your face. What are you gonna do? I'll tell you what your gonna do, Your gonna think to yourself what asshole said I'm not allowed to carry a weapon because society will not benifit from both sides having a gun. Boom your dead. Too bad the armed response units couldn't get there in time to save your sorry ass.PureFodder wrote:
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
Regular police officers dont carry firearms, there are several firearms police units spread around the whole of the uk, e.g. theres one for north east wales, multiple in london and city areas, simply, the police officers dont need firearms, due to the fact that gun crime is not a major problem in the UK.sergeriver wrote:
They aren't issued firearms except for some officers in special situations, but I guess someone from UK could explain this better than me.Strngs012 wrote:
Apparently the UK.Dragonclaw wrote:
What kind of shit government doesnt let the cops carry guns?
How does it force criminals to use weapons to protect themselves?PureFodder wrote:
If you give the police guns to protect them against the minority of armed criminals, it forces unarmed criminals to get a gun to defend themselves against the armed police and up goes the homicide rate. Nobody wins, society looses.
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
[Edit} obviously this changes if the civillian populace is armed.
Police in Australia only draw their weapons if the criminal has some sort of weapon weather it be a knife/gun or what ever. So if you think logicaly then crims shouldnt need to fear getting shot, they only need to fear being arested.
Dumbass, there is no need for police officers in the uk to carry weapons, its illegal for anyone to have them without a license and gun crime isn't a problem. The armed response units are more than sufficient.Strngs012 wrote:
Ok Genius your the cop, you have no weapon. You come across an armed drug dealer and he has his .357 mag pointed at your face. What are you gonna do? I'll tell you what your gonna do, Your gonna think to yourself what asshole said I'm not allowed to carry a weapon because society will not benifit from both sides having a gun. Boom your dead. Too bad the armed response units couldn't get there in time to save your sorry ass.PureFodder wrote:
The average cop on the street shouldn't have a gun, but there should be armed response units for those occasions when armed criminals are found.
Coming up to a BNE and the Burglar has a gun.
You can not tase but 20-30 feet.
You can not tase but 20-30 feet.
True, but in carrying them, they need them! I mean in the UK, it is extremely rare for a burglar to carry any form of firearm or any sort of petty criminal.ThomasMorgan wrote:
I'd rather have the police carry them and not need them.
Instead of needing them and not carrying them.
I'm guessing in the US when you get mugged there is a high chance of a gun.
I prefer no guns at all. As soon as you need to "defend yourself" with a gun, then the sooner criminals need to defend themselves too.
Oh, I definitely agree that no guns at all is the best solution...but we already have a gun problem here in the States.ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:
True, but in carrying them, they need them! I mean in the UK, it is extremely rare for a burglar to carry any form of firearm or any sort of petty criminal.ThomasMorgan wrote:
I'd rather have the police carry them and not need them.
Instead of needing them and not carrying them.
I'm guessing in the US when you get mugged there is a high chance of a gun.
I prefer no guns at all. As soon as you need to "defend yourself" with a gun, then the sooner criminals need to defend themselves too.
I just think it's too late to take guns away from our officers.