Words won't stop them but political pressure needs to be brought to bear on them. Sanctions or something.usmarine2005 wrote:
So why doen't Ireland go stop them? Words won't stop them babe. But I guess that is a little over your head.
Poll
I agree with the following statement...
| Israel deserves to keep WB, Gaza and East Jerusalem | 16% | 16% - 13 | ||||
| WB, Gaza and East Jerusalem Belong to Palestine | 25% | 25% - 20 | ||||
| Palestine keeps WB, and Israel Gaza and E. Jerusalem | 10% | 10% - 8 | ||||
| Gtfo | 47% | 47% - 37 | ||||
| Total: 78 | ||||||
Nah. We just need to let them duke it out.CameronPoe wrote:
Words won't stop them but political pressure needs to be brought to bear on them. Sanctions or something.usmarine2005 wrote:
So why doen't Ireland go stop them? Words won't stop them babe. But I guess that is a little over your head.
USMArine you know I wouldn't mind patting you on the ass, right? I just didn't know I was this going to be thinking about you like that this morning...CameronPoe wrote:
Perhaps you'd prefer to address my response rather than patting usmarine in the anus.(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
QFEusmarine2005 wrote:
I thought you did not care what happened in other countries Cam? I thought you said it was none of your business?
Answer to OP GTFO, yeah I like that choice.
I was Quoting For Emphasis, Mr. Sensitive. And I did address your response, but now you've got me thinking about usmarines ass all of a sudden, it might take me a while to get that off my mind and back to the topic.
You're probably right, although it would be far preferable to have them talk it out. With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.usmarine2005 wrote:
Nah. We just need to let them duke it out.CameronPoe wrote:
Words won't stop them but political pressure needs to be brought to bear on them. Sanctions or something.usmarine2005 wrote:
So why doen't Ireland go stop them? Words won't stop them babe. But I guess that is a little over your head.
That never really works well eitherCameronPoe wrote:
Words won't stop them but political pressure needs to be brought to bear on them. Sanctions or something.usmarine2005 wrote:
So why doen't Ireland go stop them? Words won't stop them babe. But I guess that is a little over your head.
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
The largest Jewish college outside Israel is near where I liveusmarine2005 wrote:
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
That 'largest jewish population' constitutes 1.4% of the population of your country. A country that sends billions of your tax dollars to Israel every year. Why didn't the US government send the Irish government billions of dollars to oust the Brits - after all there is 40 million Irish Americans in existence... (actually ye did privately send hundreds of millions to the IRA but we'll say nothing about that)?usmarine2005 wrote:
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
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America didn't help set up Ireland.CameronPoe wrote:
That 'largest jewish population' constitutes 1.4% of the population of your country. A country that sends billions of your tax dollars to Israel every year. Why didn't the US government send the Irish government billions of dollars to oust the Brits - after all there is 40 million Irish Americans in existence... (actually ye did privately send hundreds of millions to the IRA but we'll say nothing about that)?usmarine2005 wrote:
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
You didn't help set up Israel either: it declared independence unilaterally. You only recognised their statehood when it looked like they'd win.M.O.A.B wrote:
America didn't help set up Ireland.
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Ahem as far as I know, UK and US helped to establish Israel in the ME.CameronPoe wrote:
You didn't help set up Israel either: it declared independence unilaterally. You only recognised their statehood when it looked like they'd win.M.O.A.B wrote:
America didn't help set up Ireland.
The British, with the Balfour Declaration, endorsed the idea of a Jewish homeland in the Palestine region, which they administered following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in WWI. They stated that such a creation could only occur provided "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".M.O.A.B wrote:
Ahem as far as I know, UK and US helped to establish Israel in the ME.CameronPoe wrote:
You didn't help set up Israel either: it declared independence unilaterally. You only recognised their statehood when it looked like they'd win.M.O.A.B wrote:
America didn't help set up Ireland.
In a climate of increasing inter-ethnic violence and jewish and arab terrorism the Brits could no longer control the region and set a withdrawal date upon which the first Arab-Israeli war started (the Israeli war of independence). This was not an creation of Israel organised by Brits or Americans: the Brits were leaving with their tails between their legs. America contributed nothing only her recognition of the state when it declared independence.
I think that the two should unite into one country, consisting of both muslim and jewish people, with a secular government.
It will never happen, but it's fun to use my imagination
It will never happen, but it's fun to use my imagination
lol. It would be the death knell for the state of Israel. Hence their interest in a two-state solution despite Zionist desires to annex the West Bank. It's the reason they gave Gaza back: the demographic timebomb.S.Lythberg wrote:
I think that the two should unite into one country, consisting of both muslim and jewish people, with a secular government.
It will never happen, but it's fun to use my imagination
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Lmao.CameronPoe wrote:
Perhaps you'd prefer to address my response rather than patting usmarine in the anus.(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
QFEusmarine2005 wrote:
I thought you did not care what happened in other countries Cam? I thought you said it was none of your business?
Answer to OP GTFO, yeah I like that choice.
Don't look now....sergeriver wrote:
Lmao.CameronPoe wrote:
Perhaps you'd prefer to address my response rather than patting usmarine in the anus.(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
QFE
Answer to OP GTFO, yeah I like that choice.
That isn't what Cam said.Dersmikner wrote:
We have a winner... Set up a reasonable Palestinian state, and have Isreal tell everyone "okay, we're out of your shit, leave us alone and if someone sets off a suicide bomb in Israel again we'll DNA test him, identify his remains, and brutally murder every single person who is related to him, 100 deep." I mean it. Kill his mother, father, kids, sisters, brothers, cousins, grandparents, everyone. That'll teach those yahoos to get their firends and family under control. When it's your ass if the dipshit in the apartment next to you is making a car bomb you won't be as likely to look the other way.CameronPoe wrote:
Israel should remain within 1948 borders and a Palestinian state should be born out of the West Bank, which includes East Jerusalem, and Gaza. A fully functioning Palestinian state in the West Bank (without Gaza) could be good as an incentive to get Hamas in Gaza to pipe down, permitting them to join the state only when certain conditions have been satsified.
That should slow down all the bullshit over there.
East Jerusalem is part of the West Bank.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
east jerusalam. HAHA that'll never happen. Gaza and WB going to the Pales is more likely to happen.
Thats the problem, muslim crazies get all the TV time, but fundamental Jews are equally to blame for insisting that the government cater to a Jewish agenda, and alienating the muslim population.CameronPoe wrote:
lol. It would be the death knell for the state of Israel. Hence their interest in a two-state solution despite Zionist desires to annex the West Bank. It's the reason they gave Gaza back: the demographic timebomb.S.Lythberg wrote:
I think that the two should unite into one country, consisting of both muslim and jewish people, with a secular government.
It will never happen, but it's fun to use my imagination
Israel does not need to be a "Jewish" state, just like Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. do not need to be muslim states. In fact, if history has taught us anything, it's that a religious government causes more trouble than it resolves.
Wtf has that to do with fairness or justice?usmarine2005 wrote:
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
-Oh, look Israel is killing innocent Palestinians and stealing their land (OT's). It's outrageos dude.
-But dude we have 6 million Jews here.
-Really?
-Yeah.
-Then, Israel should kill 'em all.
Yep. That is what I hear people say all day here in the US. Spot on young lad, spot on.sergeriver wrote:
Wtf has that to do with fairness or justice?usmarine2005 wrote:
Cam...we have the largest jewish population outside of Israel. No shit we defend them.CameronPoe wrote:
With the US stacking the cards in the Israeli's favour I can't say I favour Palestine's arab neighbours taking an 'isolationist stance'. In the interests of fairness they should be lending support and arming them to the teeth.
-Oh, look Israel is killing innocent Palestinians and stealing their land (OT's). It's outrageos dude.
-But dude we have 6 million Jews here.
-Really?
-Yeah.
-Then, Israel should kill 'em all.
UK set it up. Israel declared their independence. And the US is the reason why it lasted in these conditions all these years.M.O.A.B wrote:
Ahem as far as I know, UK and US helped to establish Israel in the ME.CameronPoe wrote:
You didn't help set up Israel either: it declared independence unilaterally. You only recognised their statehood when it looked like they'd win.M.O.A.B wrote:
America didn't help set up Ireland.
U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!!!! IS-RE-AL, IS-RE-AL, IS-RE-AL!!!
Draft! Draft! Draft!
I think you mean IS - RA - EL.(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!!!! IS-RE-AL, IS-RE-AL, IS-RE-AL!!!