Defiance
Member
+438|7108

Quite often people exclaim that since the advent of mass media, the internet and all sorts of crap like video games and TV, the world has changed for the worse. Everyday in the news there's someone being shot down crossing the street and other times we hear about school shootings. Promptly blamed are video games, music, drugs and generally everything that has been introduced in the past 2 decades.

Many of us will be familiar with this graph. It shows the decline of violence at the same crucial moment when the electronic age began. This not only disagrees but abrasively contradicts the growing jungle that is supposedly today's world.

I've been listening to a few stories from some of my older relatives and from what's being told there were as many sexually deviant and violent wackjobs in the 60s as we hear about now. One was about a neighboring house of my grandmother in the 70s. They had a "happy family," both parents and 3 daughters. They all went through high school and college successfully and went off in to independent careers and lived wonderful albeit traumatized lives. It turns out that their father was a drug addict, rapist and repeatedly abused (in all meanings of the word) the whole family and particularly the three daughters.

There were more examples of how they (relatives) each could name off examples of people from where they grew up that didn't fit in to the whole perfect nuclear family image of the 60s and 70s. That same image is being thrown around in the same media leading current society to believe we're a powderkeg with a short fuse.

Opening this up for contribution from the forum, I'm looking for input from the older members who have been around before and after the media frenzy and baby boom era. There's no doubt that we hear about more violent crimes but from your experience, is there any difference in the world and it's people from when you were growing up through today?
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7147|Sweden
Well i guess i don´t count for the olds ( 22 ) but your right there´s always been the same for the last 10 years in my life i have not seen an increase in violence it´s the same shit. And through my dad i know it was the same shit back on his time with a few differences there´s more weapons on the street today ( in general knifes/knuckles etc ) don´t be a cock unless you know what you´re doing it might turn ugly real ugly.
Canin
Conservative Roman Catholic
+280|6912|Foothills of S. Carolina

Was born in 1975, so I might be part of the older crowd. The new media was just getting rolling in the 80's. I lived in Florida, not too far from where the Walsh kid was found (or part of him). That being the case, I would have to say that violence hasn't really increased so much as the news coverage of the violence has increased, causing an apparent increase in the violence due to the said increased coverage.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6842|North Carolina
I don't think it's really that the world is worse now, but that mass media makes us more aware of the bad shit around us.

Most of our parents grew up in a time where bad shit happened, but it was less reported.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

Can you imagine live feeds from the beaches of Normandy caught in high def? Of course d-day might not have happened, it probably would have been leaked months in advance.

Or The battle of the Bulge .
If Americans saw 90,000 troops killed in a span of one month we would have flipped out and maybe packed up.
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Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6782|Twyford, UK
The world hasn't changed. It's just that people THINK it's changed. Rivers still flood, global warming is still a myth (if it's getting warmer, why is there a freezing fog outside), and people are still idiot.

And DAMN is this snow stuff distracting.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

Skorpy-chan wrote:

The world hasn't changed. It's just that people THINK it's changed. Rivers still flood, global warming is still a myth (if it's getting warmer, why is there a freezing fog outside), and people are still idiot.

And DAMN is this snow stuff distracting.
You do realize you can turn it off.. right?
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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7127|Tampa Bay Florida
I honestly don't think the world has ever really changed that much.  The only reason we think violence and such is on the rise is because the media reports only incidents that are important.  They don't report what's not happening, only what's happening.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7127|Tampa Bay Florida

Kmarion wrote:

Can you imagine live feeds from the beaches of Normandy caught in high def? Of course d-day might not have happened, it probably would have been leaked months in advance.

Or The battle of the Bulge .
If Americans saw 90,000 troops killed in a span of one month we would have flipped out and maybe packed up.
But that's not entirely correct dude...

We were facing an enemy that had conquered almost 50 percent of the entire world. 

I think the only thing that would've been different had we had the same media coverage is that there'd be no one would go see the propaganda films which portray war as being romantic and adventurous.. because everyone would know it's bullshit.  But I don't think our actual support for the war would've hindered.  People would've just been more aware of what war was really like and would have fought even harder to finish off the axis.

In otherwords, the public would've been more informed.  But not against the war.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-12-22 19:22:17)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

I said maybe Spearhead. There are lots of things to consider there. Predicting the resolve of our grandparents in a world that would provide them with 24/7 carnage is nothing but speculation. The way people react today when the news is on you would think Armegeddon is upon us... in fact.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6842|North Carolina
Times seem pretty good when it comes to violence on our own soil.  Things aren't so great in the 3rd World, but then again, I don't think they ever have been.

One thing to consider is that America is so large that crime rates vary dramatically in each area.  For example, life is pretty safe in Virginia Beach right now, but D.C. is still the murder capital of America.  So, a lot of your perspective on crime is affected by the city you live in.

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